"The holocaust didn't happen" is a classic example of a false premise. Your logic is faulty.

Well it remains to be seen if as a user you have a voice or not.

Have a look at the submissions removals on the main sub. Take a good read of comments in each. Then take a look at the most upvoted comment in the rule thread. Mods here are not part of the community and are set apart. The community on sub is what keep its strong, mods and users alike.

One of our main goals is preventing the spread of PC-Driven Censorship to Voat. We watched self-righteous elitist powermods destroy the free speech environment that once existed on reddit. We will not allow that to happen to Voat.

We have to apply that even when we have some self-interest. No one is asking for spam to be allowed but genuine people are being put through th wringer just to put a post up. Just dispassionate deletion after deletion with "sorry, try again". It's easy to let the trolls win by being blinded by them and thinking everything is an attack but that mentality has gone too far here and normal users are being affected.

What

Number 4, new mod. Thanx for making us put a target on our back after you don't get rid of the mod. Totally uncool. Now you can take it to the "lets talk about it phase" in which people won't speak up again except for the suck up argosciv, the one that does that blood drinking stuff that is always following you guys around, (shudder) , and probably some alts in favor of the mod. Something seriously stinks about the way this is all going down around here.

I want my comments added to my vote at the top of the page too. I want people to see how I feel about having to do this publicly.

NO. He said he didn't read the other examples because he doesn't spend the time reading them. He just deletes them. You don't seem to read either. There are 2 posts about this where MF admits he doesn't read before deleting. There are no unsourced claims, he just failed to take the time to read the post.

That subverse is going to soar, I tell you.

It would have been easier to swallow if he had been a troll.

"I don't have time to thoroughly read every single post, especially the long ones, so I must have missed it."

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2361981/11747506

there is the other The post is not fully deleted (it goes to removed submissions log). All OP has to do is copy and paste and identify the needed info. Do you expect me to be perfect and to spend 10 minutes thoroughly inspecting every single post? I'm going to miss things sometimes. To expect otherwise is just nonsense. Maybe have some appreciation that I've been doing this for a year, all the while wishing there were someone else to do it. I would rather be doing my part by continuing to expand the Executive Summary I spent weeks working on, but I'm not able to do that because nobody else seems willing to do the thankless job of moderating and take abuse from assholes like

LOL! It took a minute but it just clicked, which one you mean.

"Run away! Run away!"

https://citizeninvestigators.org/

That's all I remember for usernames but there are more. You've been proven wrong on everything now. I'm finished arguing with retarded children now.

MF and your alter personality. I've blocked you now, go whine about it anon like the faggot you are.

I had to read context for this one, FUCKING LOL at the penguin callback!

He admits to not reading it fucktard.

He admits that he made a mistake and didn't read it. Do you have some reading comprehension problem?

I just gave you a site you retard.

I was replying to 5 of you assholes without going through the links and expanding. The other link is listed above, if you are too lazy to find it I can't help you.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2361678

Yup there is your proof of what they do. Just one case there. Check comments everyone.

"I only have one account that I post with at a time and I don't care for your accusation. There are many that left and started other sites."

Smell that? Smells like spamalek...

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Here is one from MF, look at the comments https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2361678 he says he doesn't read through them before he deletes. I'm going to block you now that I've proven my points, go fuck yourself.

Rule 1 shouldn't be removed.

Fundamentally speaking, if you remove it, the submissions can then be about anything, no?

I was going to suggest simply removing the word "directly", but, no; keep it, I stand by v/pizzagatewhatever as the place for "pratially/probably relevant", that said, perhaps a bit more oversight in pgw, would be good? Might be sticking my own foot in my mouth there, but, speaking genuinely :)

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Blow me :P

But seriously guys, the rules are fine.

I don't remember every fucking username over a months. One was citizeninvestigator now kindly fuck off.

I only have one account that I post with at a time and I don't care for your accusation. There are many that left and started other sites.

Fuck if I know but he did it a few weeks ago.

It wasn't on this account but I noticed on another I had. I always get pissed off and leave for months, delete my account. Believe me there were many others that noticed and commented.

Denied - Subverse 'pizzagatemods' requires 10CCP to downvote (Subverse Min CCP Downvote 2.4)

There's no reason to have this set at 10 other than to allow some to vote and others not. Set it at 10000 so noone can downvote or use the other setting that lets you exclude a sub from v/all without limiting voting.

Wouldn't it be great if people made most submissions this way? There would be so much more meat!

We have a few folks who do. But the reality is, most people are posting from their phones, on the fly, to participate in the community and something small against the pedocracy. They want to participate, but they don't want to take on a research leadership role.

I wonder what would happen if instead of trying to get there by removing everything that doesn't meet that standard, we do something to reward the posts that do? Maybe give them a blue ribbon flair or something and sticky them for a few days. Positive reinforcement instead of negative? Just brainstorming.

I'd like to know why a post, about a PROVEN child pornography publisher was taken down. Exactly wtf is an elite, if not a billionare scumbag with loads of Hollywood connections. Fuck you Millennial Falcon.

I'm wondering if any changes should be to remove rule 1, since determining relevance could be considered subjective, and within the realm of what should be voted on by the users. The users that now have the ccp to downvote much of the spammy stuff.

I agree but worth noting almost everyone I have seen comment agrees that the sub is still spammy to an extent and noone wants that. So maybe a relaxation of the rule. If in doubt leave it up or flair it. I really like the flairing idea. If you want to know how to flair PM me. It's very simple now and does not require CSS.

I think the "that is not common knowledge of rule 2 could be removed. Sorry, every factual claim needs a source

I believe people may be intimidated by all the hoops they have to jump through to post on the main sub. However you all decide to tackle that doesn't matter. What matters is you decide it needs to be tackled. Adding another hoop will discourage the average person even more. This is not paper to be marked or an exam to be passed. Its a message board on a small site that is fighting pedo elites. If ANYONE is interested in burning down pedos let them help.

Crensch you are smarter than the average bear and as such probably place demands on yourself that you expect to met. Understand that most average people just aren't built that way. You'll end up with smaller and smaller pool of users that meet the increasingly high demands to submit.

If in doubt leave it up. The user gets the benfit of th doubt. If it becomes a problem again, then address it again. No need to wait 6 months, we are live here and the action is broadcast simultaneously around the world.