Natalie Portman recently spoke of how, as a kid, she got fan mail detailing rape fantasies sent to her at 12 years old after doing the movie, The Professional. For those of you that don't know it, it's a story of an adult hitman, looks to be in 40s, that takes in a 12 year old girl. Throughout the movie she is dressed in short skirts, short shirts and even underwear. She tells the hitman Leon that she's in love with him, tries to get kisses, tells him she wants her first time to be good with him and tells someone they are lovers. She plays a game where she dresses in lingerie pretending to be Madonna, singing like a virgin and also seductively sings a happy birthday as a heavily made-up Marilyn Monroe. She also smokes and drinks in the film.
Leon ignores her attempts and spits up milk twice with her flirting. He does leave the apartment once after she confesses her feelings for him and he leans up against the wall to breathe... we can speculate that he's tempted by this girl. He ends up telling her how happy she has made him and telling her he loves her. hey also cuddle in bed together. While the film can be viewed as a cute child crush that's denied, there is no reason to dress a cute little girl up in sexy outfits, doing seductive things to a much older man. It's creepy and it promotes pedophilia, violence, smoking & getting children drunk.
What's interesting is the movie is all over youtube, like here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fy901db2aA, unlike other films that are removed. Reading over some reviews on Imdb, it seems the director casts a lot of very young women in roles.
There is an Italian restaurant in the at the start of the film, it has a pig on the Window. There are pigs throughout the film, as decorations and an oven mitt / toy. Alefantis also mentions pigs a lot and has pictures of pig eyes. In mythology, which JA is big on, pigs are associated with the underworld.
From: https://amethjera.blogspot.com/2012/08/pigs-in-pagan-myth.html
Pigs were often associated with the underworld: it is believed that swineherds can cross the veil unimpeded. Because of this they were associated with demons and spirits. In the Biblical story where Jesus casts the demons into a herd of swine, the modern understand in of the symbolism is that he did so because the swine were considered unclean and according to the story were at once driven mad and hurled themselves off a cliff. [Mark 5:12, Revised Standard Version] The writers of the Old Testament were scholars of antiquity and as such often wove obscure occult facts into Biblical text: pigs, as sacred animals of the underworld, would have been able to have been possessed by the demons and carry them off without being harmed. This is why the demons made such an odd request of Jesus, and he complied. The additional caveat of them hurling themselves off a cliff echoed the reoccurring theme of the triumph of Good over Evil, when God throws Satan into the abyss, and was a later addition to the original story.
Here is an article on Egyptian sacrifice of pigs to the moon: http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/eml/eml08.htm
In the myth of Persephone/Hades, pigs are being fed as Persephone is abducted to the underworld, along with the pigs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persephone
His swine were swallowed by the earth along with her, and the myth is an etiology for the relation of pigs with the ancient rites in Thesmophoria,[62] and in Eleusis.
This is just touching on the subject of pigs but I found it startling that pigs would be a symbol in a movie that had so many pedophilia undertones.
Millennial_Falcon ago
Rule 2 and 3: Needs examples to support claims of pigs throughout the film.
alloutwar ago
wtf are you talking about? I gave examples. Did you not read?
Millennial_Falcon ago
I don't have time to thoroughly read every single post, especially the long ones, so I must have missed it. Generally when you are citing examples of something from a film or video, it's best practice to include timestamps. Most of your post is discussion of the general symbolism of pigs, so it was easy to miss the instances you cited from the film.
3141592653 ago
Please hear me out.... tbh, I loved that movie when I saw it, although it was years ago. My take is that Natalie Portman plays a young girl who has clearly been sexually abused by adult men in the past... perhaps raped, perhaps forcibly prostituted. She does not have parents, and certainly has never had a healthy relationship with an adult male-- one that is not sexually abusive. Tragically that is all she knows of love, attention and just trying to survive. Thus when she meets Leon, her behavior follows accordingly. Throughout the movie, he tries to do right and be a pure father figure to her. In the end, that is successfully achieved - they form a healthy, non abusive bond. She has a father figure and learns it is possible to have that relationship without being sexually exploited at the same time.
alloutwar ago
Yes but the point is that they are sexually exploiting a child for a movie. This shouldn't be allowed. Her attire, her sexual seductive nature shouldn't have been on film at all. A novel would be bad enough but actually using a child in little slutty clothes professing love and attraction to an old man is not okay, in any way, at all. Her parents put their foost down when it came to a scene where he walks in on her in the bathroom and she opens her towel saying, it's okay. Times are changing, we are all waking up now and seeing, hey...that's not okay. Why didn't we realize that before?
3141592653 ago
Good points. I did think the clothing went too far, for starters
alloutwar ago
I'm not sure I want to watch that.
3141592653 ago
Please don't :(
alloutwar ago
Okay, I take your word for it.
12016473? ago
:)
GreenDell144 ago
The pig thing, perhaps in part: It’s because we are the pigs. It is based on a kind of a myth that connects to scripture... during times of apostasy, evil religions from neighbor nations would seep into the countryside. Altars and sacred poles would appear in high and secret places. Somebody was doing evil sacrifices and burning incense to some evil pagan diety. It was unknown who the culprit was. It may be, that to further debase the nation, sacrificed humans were charred and then sold as barbecue pork. No one could no the difference. In a twisted mockery of the manner that the priests were sustained by being allowed to eat some parts of the animals that were offered to YHWH at the temple, evil priests would consume what they sacrificed in secret, and furthering in their evil, sold it to an unknowing public. Supposedly, then, when one evil king or perhaps another person later repented (perhaps Mannassah, who was perhaps Hitler-level evil and later forgiven; but still condemned the entire nation as a consequence of his evil influence) and shared the truth of the matter. Thus pork was avoided at all costs. The ban on pork thing goes WAY back to Leviticus, but we could speculate that it was added later, or that human sacrifices from the days of Nimrod were possibly sold in the market as pork. Either way, Jesus lifts the ban on unclean foods later.
God is mocked when we, His loved creations, are portrayed as pigs; more so when we are sacrificed and consumed by evildoers. I have often wondered if Jesus intended a message to The Enemy by placing the evil spirits in pigs. Those spirits feared ultimate destruction at the hands of Jesus, but Jesus wouldn’t take that matter into his own hands, as it had already been set for an appointed time, it seems (Jude 6 and 2 Peter 2:4). Trippy.
I am just speculating, but these are some of the things I have dug up about pigs in religion. Most of what I wrote here comes from Jewish tradition and comments on the Old Testament. I was thinking about looking into the origins of the Muslim against pork. I wonder what is to be found.
Thanks for posting. I liked that movie when I was a kid. Now it grosses me out.
alloutwar ago
Interesting, thanks for the input. The bible also talks about throwing your pearls (of wisdom) before the swine (ignorant people). The director might be trying to shine a light on pedophilia as well but it's still there, in the story and thereby promoting it.
blackfyre_rebel ago
Podesta emails - tons of mentions of PIG ROAST.
alloutwar ago
Interesting thanks. I'll have to check it out.
derram ago
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=_fy901db2aA :
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senpaithatignoresyou ago
Why have you assumed that all sacrifice involves the loss of life? Are you familiar with the cult of Astarte? a cult that required girls to be held hostage and deflowered by strangers? The astarte cult also practiced ritual castration and transgenderism.
There was a reason why the Greeks and the Romans hated the Phoenicians. There is a reason why the Romans utterly destroyed that civilization while conquering others.
Anyway, Who was the director and the writer of this movie? It looks like we need to scrutinize their connections and associations.
pby1000 ago
Does anyone have a really good source on the Phoenicians?
sgd1971 ago
There is a series on YouTube called, "Ancient Civilizations" & a few of those discuss the Phoenicians in great detail. Hope it helps.
pby1000 ago
Thank you. I will look. I read that one goal is to recreate the society that the Phoenicians had- open pedophilia and ritual human sacrifice, among other things. I want to know what else to look for so I can help stop it.
alloutwar ago
Luc Besson is the director and you're assuming I'm assuming there is loss of life with sacrifice. ;)
I simply wrote down some connections of pigs in mythology as James Alefantis is really into mythology. I wasn't aware of that cult, just wrote it down for others to look into as I have limited time. That's an interesting connection though thanks.
senpaithatignoresyou ago
That's the problem with pizzagate, tooooooo many connections. Someone mentions a cult, then 10 more pop up. You say "which one?" Someone mentions a pedophile in Hollywood, you say "Which one"?