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kestrel9 ago

The recent buzz over this Massive cache of 1,000 guns seized from Bel-Air mansion during ATF raid

The Bel-Air mansion is described as a hoarder’s paradise. Court records show that the property is owned by Cynthia Beck, who has three daughters with J. Paul Getty’s son Gordon Getty. Beck bought the property in January 2001, but it remains unclear what, if any, connection she had to Wednesday’s events. Beck could not be reached for comment.

Brought up the CDAN topic regarding Getty and his son Home of mistress of son of J. P. Getty, alleged elite child trafficker, raided:1000+ guns found

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/07/blind-items-revealed-14_5.html

CDAN: JP Getty led an elite pedophile ring supplied with children from the Philippines (by Ferdinand & Imelda Marcos)

carmencita ago

Wow, isn't that Witch Imelda still living? They seem to never die, a stake usually does the trick.

new4now ago

carmencita ago

I remember Rahm E. being involved in some way with backpage. I think he was dragging his feet on kicking them out of Chicago, etc. I can't find anything on it. Could have been scrubbed by now.

carmencita ago

Thanks. This is a mystery of sorts. Not that I doubt their involvement in trafficking, but who is the actual owner of those weapons. Possibly Gordon. Can't wait for updated info.

letsdothis3 ago

Yup. No coincidences.

kestrel9 ago

extra bit of info regarding the arms cache seized:

Girard Saenz

according to a comment from link

The arms belonged to a licensed dealer and no charges were made. The whole thing was for theatrics to bait gullible people like you. The person arrested was Girard Saenz who is co-owner of the property and co-owner of several other properties with Cynthia Beck.

and

The suspect in custody was identified by the police as Girard Saenz, who goes Gerry Saenz, who’s a 57-year-old licensed contractor with ties to Beck. Public records show that he and Beck are longtime business partners, and that they own a collection of properties together. link

His Fiancée Norma Nicolls Was a Former Aide of Larry Lawrence (former ambassador to Switzerland under President Bill Clinton), the Disgraced Owner of the Hotel de Coronado. Nicolls was still working for Lawrence, when Saenz, her fiancé at the time, led the design team for the restoration and remodeling of the Lawrence’s Crown Manor :

we opened our home to various charities and political organizations for events,“ says Pastor. They hosted local dignitaries, such as Governor Jerry Brown, Former Sheriff and San Diego Police Chief Bill Kolender, foreign officials, and a number of weddings.

Saenz Is a Licensed Contractor (Gerry Saenz & Associates) & His Office Building Is Owned By Beck

letsdothis3 ago

Interesting links...

kestrel9 ago

Was it you that focused on architecture in a series of posts? If so you may find this article about the Spreckel's Van Ness Mansion interesting in it's description of tunnels and some prominent CA names/businesses https://www.immigrantentrepreneurship.org/document.php?rec=331

letsdothis3 ago

Was it you that focused on architecture in a series of posts?

Yes. Interesting article.

kestrel9 ago

yes, there's more. I think it needs it's own post. Care to hear the highlights?

letsdothis3 ago

Yes, please...

kestrel9 ago

Larry Lawrence's wife was Sheila Davis Lawrence https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/may/25/radar-coronado-clintonian-legacy/#

during the 1998 Paula Jones sexual harassment case against Clinton, in which Shelia was referred to as Jane Doe 7. Larry Lawrence had died in January 1996, leaving Shelia a wealthy widow and in charge of the lavishly appointed Crown Manor. “Now, have you ever spent the night at a home owned by Jane Doe 7 when your wife was not with you?” Clinton was asked in a March 1998 deposition. “I believe I did once. I believe, I believe I did. .."

http://www.wic.org/bio/lawrence.htm Thank Billy! /s

Norma Nichols regarding Larry Lawrence (who never served but lied about his military service):

I don't remember exactly when [Lawrence] was confirmed; I wasn't working there at the time. I believe in January of 1994 he went back to Washington, and that was when he received the medal from the Russian Embassy for his exploits during the war. [Laughter] You have to understand, you know, when I see this stuff and read it in print, I'm thinking to myself, "Oh, my!" https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/1998/mar/19/larrys-best-gal/ 

Much has been written about the Tudor Revival Style mansion at 1015 Ocean Blvd, named the Crown Manor by Larry Lawrence, who lived there off and on until it was sold in 1999 to its new owners who currently have it on the market for $25 million. The house historically should be named the “Richards/DuPee/Burnham/Van Ness/McPartlin/Pastor/Lawrence/Black/Bower” with its storied past.

https://www.realtor.com/news/unique-homes/crown-manor-california-landmark/

Trivia: Seems there are several 'Van Ness' mansions in the US, a common aspect is that there are usually rumors of them being haunted http://www.angelfire.com/tv2/collinwood/van_ness00.html The Van Ness House was built in Bodega Bay, California in 1862 by Miles Van Ness who made his money in the gold rush. It is located two miles south of Bodega Bay on Bay Highway (U.S. Highway 1) not far from the shore of Bodega Bay. During Prohibition, parts of the house were altered to include a bar and a hidden room for high-stakes gambling. Max Finley, however, has a more personal insight and direct observation of what was happening in the house between 1938 to 1943 when the location was a boarding school, mostly for orphans and children of American GIs overseas. Although he was eight years old at the time, he has told and repeated his stories often over the years...

...It is known that there have been seventeen reported disappearances of individuals in a hundred mile radius of Bodega Bay of teenagers...it is not possible to link all of them to the Van Ness House as people do tend to vanish.