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think- ago

I'm not getting the connection between Chelbin and Rachel Chandler, though

Chelbin's photos seem to depict many Eastern European children / teenagers. A possibility would be that she takes pics, and someone in the US decides which of the children depicted will be trafficked.

(mere speculation of course)

Chandler runs a modeling agency = many of her models look like trafficking victims. There are many established lines of trafficking from Eastern Europe to the US, partly via Mexico / South America (remember Epstein).

Vindicator ago

There are many established lines of trafficking from Eastern Europe to the US

Makes me wonder how much Melania knows.

think- ago

You can be sure that she knows a couple of things. Makes me wonder how she felt when they socialized with Epstein.

It was not only obvious that he was into girls, 'many of them are on the younger side', it seems to have been obvious too that he got girls from Eastern countries, and kept them at his NY town house. I recall reading that someone thought it was totally weird that so many girls from Eastern Europe were at this parties (the kind of parties Prince Andrew attended).

Vindicator ago

when they socialized with Epstein

Melania socialized with Epstein? Links?

think- ago

Err....@Vindicator? There are photos of Epstein with Trump and Melania. You have seen them. Melania's phone number is in his little black book (IIRC), together with lots of phone numbers of Trump and the Mar-a-Lago staff. Since he was a Mar-A-Lago member.

Do you want me to do a post with photos of the occasions when Trump and Melania were photographed with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell?

Vindicator ago

Sure. I've never seen them. I'm assuming that was after it came out that he was trafficking kids?

think- ago

That was during the time when Trump said Epstein was a 'terrific guy' and acknowledged that many of Epstein's women 'are on the younger side'. :-)

Vindicator ago

So, long before the girl's mom went to the police and people found out he was a pedo.

think- ago

and people found out he was a pedo

LOL.

IIRC, Epstein's mansion is quite close to Mar-a-Lago. The mansion where he got massages from girls every day several times a day, and raped some of them.

Epstein was a member of Mar-A-Lago.

He and Ghislaine Maxwell felt so safe there, they even groomed one of Trump's towel girls.

Trump said many of Epstein's women were 'on the younger side'.

I think he didn't mean Ghislaine Maxwell when he was saying that. /s

Imo, Trump knew perfectly well what Epstein did.

Trump might not be sophisticated, but he isn't an idiot. He would have been a bad club owner and businessman, if he hadn't known about Epstein's activities.

Do you think he never heard about the 'Lolita Express'?

kestrel9 ago

That's why he kicked Epstein out of Mar a Lago. https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2016/04/jeffrey-epstein-sex-slave-lawyer-donald-trump-accusations/ and yes I'm familiar with the Jane Doe lawsuit scam against Trump that turned out to be funded by a huge Bush supporter.

Wouldn't it be easier to start a 'Trump is a Pedo' sub instead of stomping all over people trying to do research? /s

think- ago

Wouldn't it be easier to start a 'Trump is a Pedo' sub instead of stomping all over people trying to do research? /s

Excuse me, it wasn't me who brought up Melania and what she possibly knew.

think- 3 points (+3|-0) 1.7 days ago (edited 1.7 days ago)

I'm not getting the connection between Chelbin and Rachel Chandler, though

Chelbin's photos seem to depict many Eastern European children / teenagers. A possibility would be that she takes pics, let's say in Russia, and someone in the US decides which of the children depicted will be trafficked.

(mere speculation of course)

Chandler runs a modeling agency = many of her models look like trafficking victims. There are many established lines of trafficking from Eastern Europe to the US, partly via Mexico / South America (remember Epstein).

Further speculation: Chandler might employ a bunch of scouts who take pics of Eastern European children and teenagers.

That was @Vindicator.

[–] Vindicator [S] 1 points (+1|-0) 1.5 days ago

There are many established lines of trafficking from Eastern Europe to the US

Makes me wonder how much Melania knows.

yes I'm familiar with the Jane Doe lawsuit scam against Trump that turned out to be funded by a huge Bush supporter.

I never mentioned that lawsuit here. In fact, I told @Vindicator either in a public comment or in a PM (not sure) that I read the witness statement, and don't believe that the accusations are legit.

Next time you might just want to ask me what I think about specific allegations against Trump.

Wouldn't it be easier to start a 'Trump is a Pedo' sub instead of stomping all over people trying to do research? /s

Nothing I posted on this thread wasn't connected to the OP. The only thing I am sorry about is that I self-censored myself for too long, and didn't dare to write anything that doesn't seem to be regarded as mainstream on this sub. That was clearly a mistake.

But we all learn from mistakes, so that will never happen again. :-)

kestrel9 ago

Why would you censor yourself, unleash it by all means. You think Trump is a complicit part of pedophile Epstein's grooming of young girls, you think Melania is implicit in it and you make snarky remarks about Ivanka having worked for Balazs (which btw, I did find the answer to your question, the truth is not so convicting and presumptive of some kind of guilt as your comment implied) and FWIW, Balazs said he didn't know Trump that well (2017 interview).

There's updates to one of the links you posted, but you're not interested in the real implications you make in light of what logic dictates, so why bother. Summary: In light of the updated info, you're squarely on the same side as Eric Holder, Adam Schiff and Obama. Go figure.

think- ago

you think Melania is implicit in it

No. I said Trump and Melania were socializing with Trump, that's all. I even explained that the reason why Epstein had Melania's phone number in his book was that he was a member of Mar-a-Lago.

which btw, I did find the answer to your question, the truth is not so convicting and presumptive of some kind of guilt as your comment implied

Well, would you have a link where you point that out?

FWIW, Balazs said he didn't know Trump that well (2017 interview).

Yes, I know. Where did I talk about Trump and Balazs?

There's updates to one of the links you posted, but you're not interested in the real implications you make in light of what logic dictates, so why bother.

Well, if you want to hold against me that I didn't post these updates (I'm not aware of), it might be good to post them.

In light of the updated info, you're squarely on the same side as Eric Holder, Adam Schiff and Obama. Go figure.

No, I can't 'figure', because you don't link to the updates.

And if you want to hold against me that I come to the same conclusions as other people about some topics or people or events: I don't care. I'm non-partisan. Sometimes I'm of the same opinon as the writer of a globalist news outlet (I still read The Guardian everyday, sometimes I'm of the same opinion as some ultra-conservatives.