9217 ago

You might want to read this, OP. Discussed Omega years ago.

letsdothis3 ago

Thank you very much. Will read through.

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flyingcuttlefish ago

No John of God in this thread... but the same sick pattern ... https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1566917

flyingcuttlefish ago

archived this - http://archive.is/pNzwv

letsdothis3 ago

Sounder their list of sponsors https://www.eomega.org/sponsors-and-partners we have Bennett & Co. Lingerie Collection - of course being promoted by the NYT, CNN et al: https://money.cnn.com/2009/11/11/smallbusiness/lingerie_designer_meditation.fsb/index.htm

Fashion isn't an industry typically known for its commitment to selflessness (or, for that matter, sitting quietly). But for more than 20 years, Jacalyn Bennett has been building a booming lingerie business on the unlikely principles of spirituality, benevolence and meditation.

The 56-year-old designer is owner and founder of Jacalyn E.S. Bennett & Co., a $30-million-a-year firm based in Newburyport, Mass. that designs lingerie for Abercrombie & Fitch (ANF), Frederick's of Hollywood, Hanes (HBI) and Victoria's Secret, among other brands.

... Since 1990 Bennett has helped fund and build a dozen not-for-profit meditation facilities in the U.S. and abroad, including the Cambridge Insight Meditation Center in Massachusetts and the Vishva Niketan International Peace and Meditation Center in Moratuwa, Sri Lanka, where she established a training program in healing meditation following the 2004 tsunami. (In April the Sri Lankan government awarded her the title of goodwill ambassador.)

sore_ass_losers ago

It's a small world: Victoria's Secret, started by Leslie Wexner, who financed or was a client of Jeffrey Epstein.

letsdothis3 ago

Wexner also stared Abercrombie & Fitch.

sore_ass_losers ago

Hence boldfaced, you're way ahead of me.

think- ago

Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan

Question for further research: Is this left-hand-path sufism?

I always thought Sufis were 'innocent mystics' (lol), until I did a post about a Sufi clergyman that abused girls in Britain, and found that there is a dark left-hand-path in Sufism.

Will try to find more info.

@MolochHunter

swordfish69 ago

There's your answer. MI6. The intelligence apparatus is linked to the deep state who are themselves linked to slave-owning dynasties. This is part of a larger human harvesting racket. Think about it. Slavery was abolished in the United States and around 1870 (five years later) you begin to see the rise of occultism in Europe then eventually the United States. John Of God is literally a modern-day slaveowner, part of the same racket of Anglozionist bankers who ran the shops centuries ago. That's where Marina and Oprah and Naomi Campbell come in. Marina signals the Hapsburgs, Naomi the London crowd and Oprah the Geffen-LA people (also part of a slaveowning racket). They're beacons for particular people. Perhaps buyers.

Start seeing these people as actual slave-drivers and you'll begin to understand how the global operation functions.

think- ago

Marina signals the Hapsburgs

How is she connected to the Hapsburgs? looks confused

letsdothis3 ago

Great comment.

permindex ago

Thank you for your post. Yes, there is indeed a dark left-hand path of Sufism that goes way back into Turkic-Mongolian Shamanism. This is a current interest of mine and i'm trying to find out what I can...Gurdjieff was a magician/mystic who is the one to pay attention to - he was the main inspiration of Abramovic and lot of other influential people. Some academics say that 'Jewish' Kabbala actually came from the Sufis. Sufism is a mystic path of interest to many of the elite as well. The Bektashi Order of Albania seem to be the most corrupt of the various orders. There is definitely a truly good side to Sufism, which of course has nothing to do with all of the magical practices. Here are some good links:

http://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog/sufism-and-kabbalah

http://www.conspiracyschool.com/blog/sufi-conspiracy

https://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/g-i-gurdjieff-the-hidden-history-of-the-sufis

think- ago

Thank you for the links! I will check them.

I wonder whether you are familar with the excellent work of user @9217?

They published some great articles on Steemit, and linked them to v/pizzagate. Among them some research on Gurdjieff and Abramovic:

The Body And Ritual Abuse: Comparing Gurdjieff's Fourth Way, Maria Abramovic's Method and MKULTRA

@MolochHunter (see parent for links about Sufism)

permindex ago

Thanks!

letsdothis3 ago

Upvoat for you. I read somewhere that the Omega Institute is the successor to the Esalen Institute. Don't know how come we didn't come across it before.

think- ago

I read somewhere that the Omega Institute is the successor to the Esalen Institute.

@9217 might know.

9217 ago

Yes they are connected to Esalen and Findhorn via the "Centers Gathering." Wrote about the Omega Institute here:

think- ago

Wrote about the Omega Institute here:

Thanks!

@letsdothis3

letsdothis3 ago

Thanks for the ping. That's quite a write up.

think- ago

@MolochHunter @Shizy @angelafogo: please see parent

think- ago

@9217 @swordfish69: Please see parent's parent.

Baichu ago

I have been to Omega and they are similar to any other "spiritual" retreat centres. Pay a LOT of money to see one of your favorite spiritual "stars" yap about transcending your world. What no spiritual teacher has spoken about is the evil running the planet, the ritual abuse of children, the trafficking of child prostitutes. These "stars" never talk about what is happening on the planet. In fact, if your lucky you'll hear one of them say....."resistance is futile" or "just let everything be as it is." These people are creating a mass of followers who are complacent, passive and "think" they are spiritual. Such a scam, the whole spiritual scene.....

Piscina ago

so true. they are all about 'thinking positively' to 'raise your vibrations', which translates to 'don't think about the realities of the world and trying to help those less fortunate, cos you'll just get dragged down'. And the army of cult followers saying 'you create your own reality' and 'we are all God' is pathetic. They are being taught to deny what's going on around them and they're being encouraged to put their heads in the sand.

Baichu ago

I wasted years in this nonsense and then the red pill was swallowed.

Piscina ago

Don't be too hard on yourself. There's nothing wrong with looking for spiritual answers.

think- ago

Idea for further research: We should find out which other 'healers' and spiritual scammers Oprah has promoted on her show and elsewhere.*

We might find other 'healers' who run similar operations, or are connected to Jog's trafficking network.

@girlsinashittycountry said the healers in Brazil who are not legit might be all connected in a way.

*I'm aware the list might be endless, though. LOL.

@ASolo @sore_ass_losers @angelafogo @AppliedAspergers

Piscina ago

imho most of the New Age gurus and healers are fraudulent shysters: Eckhart Tolle, Sylvia Browne, Marianne Williamson, Doreen Virtue (who has now backed out of the New Age movement). A lot of them are actually very anti-Christian without, one, understanding Christian doctrines and, two, being able to distinguish between some ruthless abusers at the top of the pile and the doctrines of faith. They are making it cool to be very anti-Christian and are consequently doing the devil's work.

angelafogo ago

He was also in Oprah. So there you go.

angelafogo ago

https://abcnews.go.com/US/james-ray-found-guilty-negligent-homicide-arizona-sweat/story?id=13908037

Take a look at the first hand accounts of what they were doing. Same thing Osho did. They create trauma to develop new personalities.

letsdothis3 ago

Same thing Osho did.

Exactly. CIA cult techniques all over it.

think- ago

Thank you, going to read it!

think- ago

@Vindicator @9217 @Shizy: please see parent.

Vindicator ago

Nice. Git 'em!

permindex ago

When I was there in 2003 for a while, there was a guide named Josie Ravenwing. I think she was one of the original guides or the original one that started bringing over Americans sometime in the 90s. I remember getting a weird vibe from her there. I wonder what she's up to now.

think- ago

I think she is still a guide there. I stumbled upon her name several times while researching John of God.

think- ago

New York City events have included speakers such as...Gloria Steinem

Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA in the 1960s before she became a well-known feminist. There is an interview with her about it on YouTube.

kingcosmo ago

i went to this in 2016 if anyone has questions

think- ago

if anyone has questions

Yes! What where your experiences? How did you travel there - via an organized tour by a guide? How was the guide like?

What was your impression how John of God treated women? And your impression of the 'healing' sessions? The general atmosphere at the Casa and in town?

Every info would be very appreciated!

kingcosmo ago

so i went to see him at omega, not at the casa (sorry i didnt make that clearer)

it was fucking STRANGE.

I've been to omega many times before, and I actually enjoy the retreats and programs they have. a friend of mine invited me and paid for my ticket (otherwise i probably wouldn't have gone, because he always rubbed me the wrong way), and I went with a group of about 15 people.

omega set up a giant tent- i mean MASSIVE. It was probably bigger than a football field and had hundreds of people under it all in white. it was a lot of waiting, it was freezing. occasionally they had random speakers come out and talk about how amazing JOG is, or how amazing knowing/being healed by JOG is. It was all super culty, but I've been working in the "spiritual" industry for about ten years, so I'm used to all of these guru-worshipper church campy types.

When your section is called, you would walk into a room to be "healed" by JOG. This was all done in masse. You would walk past JOG, which he was just sitting up in a chair surrounded by flowers, and then you would take a seat (there were probably about 50 people in the smaller room). You'd sit there quiet, eyes closed, and eventually JOG would come in the room. I have to say, I was surprised that I immediately could sense when he entered the room. Now here's my fucking weird experience, which could either be real or the result of me convincing myself something would happen. When he was doing the "healing," I had visualizations of my mind being "erased." Like my brain computer was being defragged or something. It was noticeable. Again, I've been to hundreds of workshops/events/woo-woo type things as a result of my career over the years, and I was taken aback by this experience because normally I am extremely dismissive of these things. Anyways, the "healing" lasted maybe five minutes and we were shuffled out of the room.

After I waited outside of the "healing room" waiting for my friend (who was held back to stay in his "vortex," which is basically a woo-woo name for a bunch of people that sit around him and stay in the room the whole time). At some random point a woman started screaming bloody fucking murder, blood-curdling sounds, and to this day I have no idea what that was about. Again- I will say this didn't surprise me as these types of events attract crazy people/ schizo-types, so I assumed it was just your run of the mill nutjob going crazy. I will say that at no point did I see "private" rooms or anything - so I think the screamer was just a looney toon and not someone getting murdered.

Here was the weird thing, after I left Omega I was DRAINED. I slept probably 15-16 hours after the event. I felt ill, exhausted, and totally depleted. My friend said this is "normal" and lots of people have this reaction. Now after all this stuff about JOG came out, I'm wondering if the experience I had was actually some form of energy-theft/vampirism which is why I was so exhausted after.

The friends I went with acted like they experienced the most transformational thing EVER. For me it was a solid "meh."

Piscina ago

I have heard about other people who got worse after being around JOG. Many get sicker. I had a friend who went to listen to a New Age guru speak. She said she got sick and spent the day in the bathroom vomiting. She was fine at the end of the day. Personally, I think some of these gurus have negative entities attached to them and they suck the life out of people.

kingcosmo ago

I agree completely. Who did your friend go to see speak?

Piscina ago

Doreen Virtue, when she was into the New Age. Virtue has now turned her back on the New Age and is a Christian.

kingcosmo ago

Interesting. I know Doreen used to do a lot with Chakra work & angel work. I wonder if her quick and final conversion to Christianity has anything to do with uncovering some of the dangers in what she was promoting all those years.

Piscina ago

She says she had a vision of Jesus in church. She now advocates volunteer work and service-to-others, as opposed to service-to-self, which is what the New Age is all about. The New Age is simply an extension of the luciferian doctrine, first promoted by Alice Bailey, Blavatsky and Steiner. Another interesting convert from the New Age to Catholicism was Valentin Tomberg, who said that what was missing from the New Age was humility and obedience to something greater. There is not much in the New Age close to what Jesus Christ taught--humility, loving your enemies, doing good deeds for others, rejecting worldly materialism, caring for the sick and the poor, self-sacrifice.

think- ago

Thank you for your reply, very interesting.

Here was the weird thing, after I left Omega I was DRAINED. I slept probably 15-16 hours after the event. I felt ill, exhausted, and totally depleted. My friend said this is "normal" and lots of people have this reaction.

Yes, I read about this. The TL;DR seems to be - apart from your feeling of being drained of energy, and the exhaustion - were there any longer lasting effects? Since most of his followers claim that after having an experience like you had, they then felt 'healed' at some point.

Also - why do you think was one of your friends singled out, and was ask to stay?

Thanks.

@letsdothis3

kingcosmo ago

my friend is very famous and influential. one of john of gods assistants recognized my friend and took them aside i think to win their favor

permindex ago

" I'm wondering if the experience I had was actually some form of energy-theft/vampirism which is why I was so exhausted after."

Yes, that is what they refer to as an "invisible surgery" where you are totally depleted for almost a day afterwards and all you can do is rest. JoG would come into a room where we were all seated with our eyes closed and he would say some prayer with "Deus" in it and the only feeling I remember was relaxation. It was a very subtle thing. I had several of these in Abadiania when I stayed there in 2003. At the time I thought they were healing, and now I think just the opposite, as I have been chronically ill since a about 2 years after I got back from Brazil (it took some time for the illness to manifest). I'm glad you didn't keep having the "surgeries" like I and my friend did - he has also been ill just like me. I might as well tell you that my first "surgery" was a physical one, which I volunteered for out of my own naivete, and I got the forceps jammed up the nasal canal procedure, where I saw a flash of light and felt a lot of pain when it happened, even though they claim he uses some kind of spiritual anesthetic to make his operations pain-free. I imagine it was used with me, but it still hurt. After that, a nurse took me to a back room for me to rest while she sopped up whatever blood was running down my face. The next time, I felt ok until I suddenly had a severe pain in my liver area to the point of almost not being able to walk. I barely made it to the place I was staying, drank a ton of water because of how dehyrdrated I was, and soon after that, started purge up large quantities of BLACK liquid, filling a bucket half full. It was a horrible and painful experience and I was totally drained afterwards. At the time, I thought it was a cleansing, but again, now I think the opposite and that they put some dark spirit in me. That was my first surgery, so I decided to stay after that because I thought there was a chance they could help me with the problem I came there for and ended up staying there for 6 months. After I came home I had some digestive problems, then after about 2 years, I developed a severe condition which has only gotten worse over the years. What did not help was doing a remote healing from them where I took the passionflower herbs (when I still thought JoG was good), after which I felt much worse and all my symptoms I had had before were even worse. Now i'm looking for someone who can finally get rid of this once and for all.

sore_ass_losers ago

Thanks for your account, it is interesting. (Also @kingcosmo ).

It's interesting your 'allotriophagy' link is dead now, 20 hours later. "404 Not Found." Maybe they didn't like traffic from voat.

I get "Allotriophagy is the vomiting or disgorgement of strange or foul objects, usually associated with someone possessed by or obsessed with the Devil or other Demons". It seems it has a modern definite "a taste for eating strange objects".

permindex ago

hmm the link still works fine for me. strange.

letsdothis3 ago

Thank you for recounting your experience.

have been chronically ill since a about 2 years after I got back from Brazil

I've seen a number of people comment on blogs that they were actually worse afterwards. Also, in Brazile they give out his 'medicines' which many people say make them ill.

permindex ago

Thank you. yes, the medicines would be the passionflower herb capsules.

letsdothis3 ago

Seems they are heavily into remote viewing. They are mentioned in this book:

A Sorcerer's Apprentice: A Skeptic's Journey into the CIA's Project Stargate and Remote Viewing - https://www .amazon.com/Sorcerers-Apprentice-Skeptics-Journey-Stargate-ebook/dp/B00XGX2JZ2

Follow the fascinating story of one man's journey into the realm of the fantastic: the CIA-sponsored psychic spies with the ability to extend their consciousness to accurately describe targets not only half a world away but to look into the future as well. It all sounded like science fiction to John Herlosky after reading an expose by former member of the CIA's Project Stargate, Dr. David Morehouse. Two years later, skeptical but intrigued by the possibilities implied, John entered the classroom of Dr. Morehouse to find out the truth—and never looked back. Sorcerer's Apprentice is an autobiographical account of the author's experience learning the CIA-sponsored scientifically validated form of extrasensory perception called "remote viewing." The book chronicles the author's journey from interested skeptic to operational remote viewer working his first mission as well as his former life as a police officer and private military contractor.

Whitebear ago

I live within a couple hours of Omega. I could go undercover like Alex Jones. Haha

think- ago

IIRC, only recently a bunch of CIA documents were de-classified about topics of remote viewing experiments etc.

Does anyone have some details or a link?

septimasexta ago

Researched this years ago. It's a cover for direct to brain info transfer technology. Like the TRUE story of the "tin foil hats" based on HAARP. I've forgotten the details. Will see if I can find. Dave Hunt, a Christian author, wrote a novel about this called "The Archon Conspiracy." https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1751198.The_Archon_Conspiracy

think- ago

Thanks.

septimasexta ago

"Brainwashing Techniques Designed to Promote Acceptance of the Coming Genocide" https://www.soulask.com/brainwashing-techniques-designed-to-promote-acceptance-of-the-coming-genocide/

CIA UPLOADS MILLIONS OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS TO ITS WEBSITE, INCLUDING INFORMATION ON UFOS AND PSYCHIC POWERS 'The 'STAR GATE' remote viewing programme aimed to explore whether humans could be taught to be psychic" https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/cia-central-intelligence-agency-documents-classified-online-website-agency-a7533261.html

think- ago

CIA UPLOADS MILLIONS OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS TO ITS WEBSITE, INCLUDING INFORMATION ON UFOS AND PSYCHIC POWERS 'The 'STAR GATE' remote viewing programme aimed to explore whether humans could be taught to be psychic" https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/cia-central-intelligence-agency-documents-classified-online-website-agency-a7533261.html

That's great! Thank you!! That's what I meant! :-)

@Vindicator @9217 @ASolo @angelafogo

sore_ass_losers ago

FWIW, Russell Targ is linked with Uri Geller, who pops up periodically as an Aangifan villain:

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/03/uri-geller-controls-everything.html

Targ tested Geller and pronounced his powers were authentic, despite catching him doing sleight-of-hand fakery during some of the tests.

letsdothis3 ago

Targ tested Geller and pronounced his powers were authentic

That's interesting, didn't know they were connected. I think that Geller was a handler of Michael Jackson's at one point.

think- ago

During her first trip to John of God in 2004, Rosa Haritos was identified as a medium and made a Daughter of the Casa.

We should look into these 'Daughters of the Casa' - these are women of the inner circle of JoG, who claim they are 'mediums', i.e., they claim to 'channel' the souls of the dead, and are thus able to heal. (John of God himself claims doing the same.)

sore_ass_losers ago

I think JoG doesn't claim healing power just from being a medium, he claims to channel physicians:

Entities are spiritual beings, spirits of surgeons, doctors, monks, saints, who are present in Abadiania in a spiritual form. John Of God works as a proxy between spiritual world and our material world by channeling these spirits. Entities take over his body and he has no recall of them doing that. He apparently does not remember anything that happened during that time.

Sometimes the entity identifies itself by saying its name. The most prominent entity is St. Ignatius Loyola, the entity for whom the Casa Don Ignacio is named.

Other entities are Dr. Augusto de Almeida, surgeon, Dr. Oswaldo Cruz, very famous Brazilian doctor who lived more than 100 years ago and was able to eradicate yellow fewer in Brazil, St. Francis Of Assisi who is a well-known saint, Dr. Jose Valdivino, a surgeon etc.

St. Ignatius Of Loyola is the most important entity in Abadiania. He lived in Spain in 16th century.

John Of God performs visible and invisible surgeries under the entity guidance. People who visit and pass John Of God inside the Casa are scanned by entities who perform these surgeries, usually invisible ones. The healing usually is not immediate and takes months to have the effect. So usually more visits and more operations are required.

The entities prescribe herbs after the surgery in form of pills. [Note: always passionflower pills.]

Entities are able to do distance healing, where people are being operated by proxies in the Casa. The can live anywhere in the world and they receive the healing.

John Of God says there are 33 entities who work with him and he is able to channel. Some entities are anonymous. The most famous entities are:

Dom Inácio de Loyola 1491-1556
Dr Augusto de Almeida
Dr Oswaldo Cruz 1872 – 1917
Xico Xavier
Dr Bezerra de Menezes
Dr. José Valdivino
Saint Francis Xavier
King Solomon

http://www.johnofgodlove.com/entities/

think- ago

John Of God says there are 33 entities who work with him and he is able to channel.

33 entities you say? 33.....rings a bell, doesn't it?

The most famous entities are

Sorry, can't help myself: So if you want to meet St. Francis of Assisi, St. Ignatius de Loyola (founder of the Jesuits), and King Solomon - all within a couple of days, just go and visit John of God!!

rolls on floor

@letsdothis3 @Vindicator @ASolo @sore_ass_losers @AppliedAspergers

letsdothis3 ago

She has advanced degrees from Columbia and Stanford no less. That says alot too.