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ESOTERICshade ago

Thanx for the post. I will give it a look. This is the same sicko that harassed a member of our sub.

Honeybee_ ago

Thank you, and yes, I included a link to @EffYouJohnPodesta's post above under "harasses #pedogate and #pizzagate researchers", it was the first thing Mike sent to me ♡

Are_we_sure ago

Also featured in my video, linked above, you can see more proof of Cheese Pizza being used as a code word for Child Pornography in many Dark Web forums pre-dating the Wikileaks release of the Podesta emails.

Podesta never used Cheese Pizza

Why are you worried about "Cheese Pizza" being used before the Podesta email leak? It was in use on 4chan since 2004. We know this. We also know something else "Cheese Pizza" was never used a single time by anyone in John Podesta's emails. Zero use of "cheese pizza." In fact, no code was used Podesta's emails.

We know that there was a fake code list posted by an anonymous internet user. However the list is a complete fraud BECAUSE THAT LIST is the one for which there's no evidence before the Podesta leak.

Cheese Pizza is from POST CP requests on 4chan

We know that Cheese Pizza comes from the term CP widely used on places like 4chan for Child Pornography. In fact, it was so widely used POST CP was a meme

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/574/970/038.png
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/post-cp

Post CP is an acronym in which CP can have a variety of meanings. Initially used as an acronym for 4chan posters to indirectly mention or request a child pornography thread, in later years the acronym became commonly associated with the posting of other subjects with the same first letters (C & P, most notably "Cheese Pizza") to parody prohibited request threads or to troll those who hope to find child pornography.

Cheese Pizza started as a joke

To parody the people actually requesting CP, aka child pornography, people would post other forms of CP like

Captain Picard

https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/574946-post-cp

Chocolate Pudding

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/574/923/5b7.jpg https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/574901-post-cp

Cheese Pizza not only has nothing to do with Podesta it doesn't even match the fake podesta code list.

Cheese Pizza is a 4chan joke for CP aka Child Porn. Cheese Pizza is never mentioned by Podesta in his emails or anyone else in his emails. Search wikileaks. It appears zero times.

Now let's look at the fake code list. This is completely a HOAX list of words that was created AFTER the PODESTA leak. Software to analyze datasets for commonly used words are really easy to use. Can you tell what this word cloud is about? http://www.robweir.com/blog/images/moby_cloud.png

Here's the fake code list. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2016/12/07/pizzagate/daaa6b3b2a4ae2f0d1d1a18456d77ed4436b8ca0/images/4chan-terms.png

According this HOAX, pizza is girl and cheese is little girl. So cheese pizza is Little Girl Girl which makes no sense. This is to be expected because this is completely fake list of code that has nothing to do with Podesta. You still see people claim that this list came from the FBI. It Didn't. Or that it came from Wikileaks. It didn't.

It's a hoax.

It's pretty funny to think John Podesta would use 4chan memes, but people really got invested in this to the point where Honeybee is still confusing this two years later.

auralsects ago

dude your game is off lately

the absence of 'cheese' before pizza in the emails means nothing

no one took that anon's list seriously or claimed it had any significance

and if chocolate pudding joke was devised its not surprising cheese pizza was also. its a coincidence.

go to Instagram and search the hashtag "pizzabutt" or some such thing and youll see tons of pedos, BDSM camwhores with pentagram pizza tattoos and pics of IRL satan worship. this example im describing took less than one minute to find.vhttps://www.instagram.com/p/BohQ6dJno5m/?taken-by=lillyluedeetz

Are_we_sure ago

the absence of 'cheese' before pizza in the emails means nothing no one took that anon's list seriously or claimed it had any significance

Means nothing? Then why Honeybee trying to find citations for cheese pizza?

No one took it seriously? It's one of the tenet's of pizzagate that Podesta emails contained code and they did not.

The whole investigation rests on a foundation of tissue paper.

mrohm ago

"Pizza related map." "Pizza for an hour" "Dominoes on cheese or pasta"

Extremely expensive "pizza" and "hot dogs."

Are_we_sure ago

"Pizza related map."

Absolutely not code. Food maps, particularly of Italy are pretty common graphics. You can find them with regional wines or regional pastas and you can certainly find them with pizza.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/70/e9/06/70e906ab57154d45c6bffbda4f60f2c8--italia-map-kitchen-linens.jpg

https://rlv.zcache.com/italia_kitchen_towel-r4db558fc02154f4985d13583ec8d69cb_2cf6l_8byvr_540.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/f4/a8/8b/f4a88b3e21bf3c589d46fc7aee80275b--cynthia-rowley-bella-italia.jpg

"Pizza for an hour"

This is pretty clearly is Tony asking if John has time for a quick bite. Getting pizza over a fancier dinner means you know you can get in an out quickly, because pizza cooks fast. It actually make far less sense if you are thinking about it in terms of child abuse.

"Dominoes on cheese or pasta"

This simply means playing dominoes with a belly full of cheese or pasta. It's like saying on coffee or on drugs. The context of the email makes this clear, Podesta used to give out pasta as Christmas gifts and changed to giving out cheese.

Extremely expensive "pizza" and "hot dogs."

This was gossip from a guy in Texas who had no inside information about the Obama White House. In fact, he hated Obama and was repeating a fake right wing story about a real pizza party Obama had. The expense was not supposed be the Pizza and hot dogs itself....and hot dogs were not even involved....but the cost to taxpayers to fly them in. It was a fake story about Obama wasting money. From a prevous comment.

The $65,000 hot dog party guy? Not a White House insider. A guy who worked in Texas with no first hand knowledge of the White House and certainly not an Obama insider, he hated Obama. AND he just repeating a fake story that was going around on the right wing blogs and talk shows. After Obama had the pizza chef of a St Louis Pizzeria come to the White House to make pizza, right wing blogs started saying he wasted a bunch of taxpayer money just to eat pizza. (Actually the pizza chef bought the ingredients himself.)

https://twitter.com/TinaTerrell63/status/1507199272 https://twitter.com/ImADirtyBubble/status/1543687256 https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/13226-obamas-pizza-party-at-taxpayers-tab/ http://web.archive.org/web/20090414041936/http://minx.cc/?post=285771 http://web.archive.org/web/20090414090535/http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/04/10/right-wing-slams-barack-obama-for-ordering-pizza-really

(Also note how nobody lost their mind and started claiming pizza = pedophilia. That had to wait for the psyops on social media to mature. In fact, read this article about the St Louis pizza guy all the way to end to blow your mind. https://www.stlmag.com/dining/Pi-at-The-White-House-on-Fox-and-Friends-on-Great-Day-St-Louis/))

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2477265

mrohm ago

Even if you are right, that doesn't mean that they're "obviously" about food. You would have to know about Italian food maps, and suss out the weird language as no one says, "I did X on pasta/cheese." You do things "on" drugs or possibly people, not food. "I watched that movie on acid," "I was high on pot," etc.

Stratfor employees talked about the pizza/dogs party. Hardly right wing bloggers.

Are_we_sure ago

I never said obviously and you are turning this whole thing around. Great claims require great evidence. The burden of proof is on the people making this wild claim. Since they are making such a great claim, their arguments should be viewed with the highest skeptcism and they never came close to meeting this burden. The ones claiming its code is used had any real evidence at all for that claim.

And Let's remember they were not conducting an investigation in good faith. They were perpetrating a deliberate fraud with the intent of making their political enemies look guilty.

However, if you were conducting an investigation in good faith, you don't have to know about Italian food maps or suss out weird language to know that just because you are confused by what strangers are talking about you can't simply make a a giant leap of speculation and assume their guilty. That's not good faith, that's not intellectually honest. That's determining someone is guilty before you look at the evidence, that's manufacturing the proof of guilt by manipulating evidence.

I don't think it's obvious or expect most Americans to know about pasta with walnut sauce, but it's a real Italian dish and I know that because I looked into and this is why my explanations to you are CORRECT. Yes, there linens with maps and pizza do exist and in fact are common. You can't simply assume pasta with walnut sauce is code simply because it sounds strange to you. That's not a good investigation. Your suspicion is not evidence You can't manufacture evidence from your own ignorance. The entire evidence that pasta with walnut sauce is code is it sounds weird to most people because they never heard of it. However, if someone spent 15 seconds investigating the claim about walnut sauce you would know it's not. You can get all these recipes and many more within 15 seconds via a google search.

Pasta With Walnut Sauce and Broccoli Raab Recipe - NYT Cooking Pasta with Walnut Sauce Recipe | Nigella Lawson | Food Network The real Italian Riviera walnut sauce - asmallkitcheningenoa Pasta with Herbed Walnut Sauce - Ciao Chow Bambina Walnut sauce - Caroline's Cooking A Simple Walnut Sauce Recipe for Pasta and Gnocchi - The Spruce Eats

You can buy it pre-made https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41Zcp7k1MUL.jpg

If you spent a little more time investigating you find it's from Ligurian in Northern Italy, same place pesto (basil and pinenuts) sauce is from AND where Podesta's family is from.

Spend a lot more time investigating and you would find John Podesta is a serious foodie (as an Italian it never struck me as odd to be spending so much time talking about food, especially pizza) and a gourmet cook and you can find his walnut sauce recipe online https://i.pinimg.com/474x/d8/1c/13/d81c13a4715ae6ae6270b9bb3f0acee1--john-podesta-list.jpg

and even see a video of him making it

https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/a20785768/political-guru-podesta-wins-age-group-at-capitol-hill-10k/

Just a starting point for a good faith investigation, it's just highly unlikely for any code to be used in private emails between friends. It's also pretty improbable for outsiders to exactly crack that code. It would be odd for a small group of people who are knew each other to use a pre-existing code known to others. A honest investigation involves humility and being aware of what you know for a fact and what you don't.

Stratfor employees talked about the pizza/dogs party. Hardly right wing bloggers.

The main Statfor guy was repeating a righ wing rumor and had no inside information. In fact, he hated Obama. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2477265

mrohm ago

True enough. The real evidence is Tony's child porn "art." Nobody normal collects such things, no matter how much you write in defence, same as someone decorating their den with Holocaust photos or photos of crime victims.

Are_we_sure ago

more deciding guilt first then looking for reasons, more non-evidence. more argument from incredulity. more terrible art criticism

Nobody normal collects such things

Same massive leap of someone doesn't share my tastes therefore child trafficking cannibals.

mrohm ago

People into Beyonce don't share my tastes, but I don't call them anything. It's child porn. I have dealt with paedos in the past who appealed to "art" as justification for hentai of eight year olds and tentacles, or compared CP to Renaissance cherubs.

It's nonsense.

I like Aubrey Beardsley. Beardsley was accused of being a homosexual because he hung out with people like Oscar Wilde. I'm not homosexual, but I know that it carries that connotation and don't whinge about "muh art" if people remark on my Beardsley bric a brac.