Hey Pisscina, I reported NCMEC to FBI for not showing images of children when they reported them missing and also for blocking citizens, not sure why one day I was unblocked, maybe because I scared them. NCMEC is definitely a clearing house for CP and tracking assets, not sure what Ark of Hopes Connection to them is, just because they have stats and make reports to them like we all do, doesn't mean they work togther, maybe show some proof of your claims that AOH=Pedophilia
THank you for your reply. I'm surprised you would say to post the claims, when there's plenty of information above and in the attachments to prove that something is not right.
First, as Ark of Hope is registered as a charity, can you please post its financials seeing as your are somewhat affiliated?
Second, can you provide evidence of ANY charity work that Ark of Hope does. I can find none. That information is very easily found if it's a real charity. As I said, Ark provides nothing on it's 'charity' activities. The only thing I can recall is a note from its founder, Blair Corbett, saying that he was closed down by the authorities for keeping kids in his basement. I will try to find that message and attach it.
As clearly shown above, Ark's ambassador is Robert Strongbow, whose notinmyworld features an owl. Strongbow goes by the name of Blackhorn33. Again, this is another fake charity.
You say you don't know what Ark of Hope's connection to NCMEC is, and yet YOU are the one retweeting Ark and Ark's website clearly provides a link to NCMEC.
You are being deliberately obtuse and that surprises me considering how on-point and sharp you were during the initial stages of your investigations. Something has changed. Your are now affiliated with NCMEC by a few degrees of separation.
I'm not affiliated with anyone, and if you actually looked at Ark of Hope's website, you would see what they are doing, I don't demonize every non profit that tries to help kids. Ark of Hope provides live chatrooms with volunteers who also take calls and emails to listen to survivors stories, they also do major awareness campaigns through social media providing information, resources, and statistics, some statistics are from NCMEC, hell, sometimes I use them too, it's all we have unfortunately. They are not affiliated with NCMEC, did you even look at their affiliates? You are totally wrong about everything, everyone go to Ark Of Hope yourself and read EXACTLY what they do, your whole post is bs.
Thank you for that info about the chat lines and their 990s. Your statement about my whole post being bs is unfortunate. I still don't understand why, after all your agitation and foot-stomping about mcmec, you would choose to endorse aoh and its ambassador, Strongbow aka Blackhorn33. I have noticed that since last year's post he has removed his referral to MAKEITULTRA.
Ark of Hope's founder is Blair Corbett. He also founded the Good Men Project: https://goodmenproject.com/author/blair-corbett/ You will see that he has posted an article on a Dutch court legalising a 'child love' (aka pedophilia) group. Blair talks about the 'battle for the hearts of oppressed children'.
So you're saying this claim is false? @Honeybee_ , you've danced around the subject, but this is a major point that seems to be substantiated,
And what about this. This is for @Vindicator also who seems to be making false claims of his own. Isn't the following an example of ''proof';?
Ark of Hope is affiliated with Robert Strongbow - Notinmyworld https://notinmyworld.org/http://archive.is/YyShD which calls itself a 'resource centre', although again it does nothing in reality. Suspicious that he publishes articles on pedophile activity as a way of alerting pedophiles on what to watch out for or how to avoid being found out by authorities.
… stared sourly at the corpse of the young blonde woman. Her tongue looking like grape flavored bubble gum stuffed in her mouth. Her eyes had rolled back in her head. ...The crown of her head was all soft and mushy from being banged against the wall – “banged” being the operative word. Disturbingly it was all post-mortem damage, including her badly broken neck
So @piscina provides proof with links and @Vindicator and @Honeybee_ dismiss it with what? Saying there is no proof?
If this is coming down to a RT not being in support of anyone, then that is what should be said, but it's kind of a weak defense. We've been relying on follows and RTs, etc. as a way of proving relationships, and most of these trails turn out to be accurate. So IF someone does RT something because it purports to be helping children, they should make that clear. It's difficult to remember every freakin' organization involved in this shit, so that would be the way to go.
Because that's not the way either of you went, I can only conclude this is another example of unfairness in getting rid of thread you don't like, and that's too damn bad. You're supposed to offer free speech, and refuting thing is fine, but not when you take advantage of your positions here and delete threads on the basis of conjecture and miscategorizing something as having ''no proof'' when it did offer ''proof by way of quotes and links''.
You're encouraged to disagree, but burying something isn't the way to go.
First, as Ark of Hope is registered as a charity, can you please post its financials seeing as your are somewhat affiliated?
How does retweeting a positive message by someone on Twitter make anyone "somewhat affiliated"? That's just complete bullshit.
Also, just saying these guys are fake because you haven't seen X or Y doesn't make them fake. You need to provide linked evidence they are not divulging something required of organizations claiming similar status. Yet here you are, making a false claim Honeybee_ is "affiliated" and then requiring her to provide financials you say are required and missing (with no evidence). This is the logical equivalent of asking her "Are you still beating your children?" No matter how she responds, you've framed her. It's completely dishonest.
Vindicator, I would absolutely LOVE for Melissa to prove me wrong, but she hasn't. When she retweets AOF, she is in fact signalling that she approves of what they do. She has 30,000+ followers. If they are blindly following, which I imagine most are, they will immediately assume that AOH is legit, which at the moment is not the case. There is NOTHING on its website that is evidence of its legitimacy, but there are tonnes of red flags that it is a sham.
If you bothered to read my post, you would see that I have not 'claiming' anything. I am asking a question: why is HoneyBee retweeting AOH considering they're sketchy (and there's plenty of evidence that they are). She has not been able to answer me.
I am asking her to provide financials because, unlike a legit charity, there is nothing that I can find regarding the finances of AOH. Perhaps HoneyBee has access to information that the rest of us are not privy to, and I would love that to be the case. She has a fantastic opportunity here to clear the air and give us the facts. But instead I see her sidestepping and giving a very defensive answer. As I have said, I had a huge amount of respect for her, but this is as shady af.
I have not 'claiming' anything. I am asking a question: why is HoneyBee retweeting AOH considering they're sketchy (and there's plenty of evidence that they are).
"Considering they're sketchy" is a claim, and you have not provided any evidence of it. The very first thing I did was look to see if you had made any previous posts about Ark of Hope. I expected to see a solid thread providing all kinds of evidence about them. But all I found was the very same year-old thread you linked at the end of your post...which low and behold is a copypasta word for word of the vast majority of this thread...with all of the same problems. Circular argumentation. Repeating yourself is not evidence and doesn't meet the Rule 2 requirements of this subverse.
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Honeybee_ ago
Hey Pisscina, I reported NCMEC to FBI for not showing images of children when they reported them missing and also for blocking citizens, not sure why one day I was unblocked, maybe because I scared them. NCMEC is definitely a clearing house for CP and tracking assets, not sure what Ark of Hopes Connection to them is, just because they have stats and make reports to them like we all do, doesn't mean they work togther, maybe show some proof of your claims that AOH=Pedophilia
Piscina ago
THank you for your reply. I'm surprised you would say to post the claims, when there's plenty of information above and in the attachments to prove that something is not right.
First, as Ark of Hope is registered as a charity, can you please post its financials seeing as your are somewhat affiliated?
Second, can you provide evidence of ANY charity work that Ark of Hope does. I can find none. That information is very easily found if it's a real charity. As I said, Ark provides nothing on it's 'charity' activities. The only thing I can recall is a note from its founder, Blair Corbett, saying that he was closed down by the authorities for keeping kids in his basement. I will try to find that message and attach it.
As clearly shown above, Ark's ambassador is Robert Strongbow, whose notinmyworld features an owl. Strongbow goes by the name of Blackhorn33. Again, this is another fake charity.
You say you don't know what Ark of Hope's connection to NCMEC is, and yet YOU are the one retweeting Ark and Ark's website clearly provides a link to NCMEC.
You are being deliberately obtuse and that surprises me considering how on-point and sharp you were during the initial stages of your investigations. Something has changed. Your are now affiliated with NCMEC by a few degrees of separation.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
You nailed it.
Honeybee_ ago
I'm not affiliated with anyone, and if you actually looked at Ark of Hope's website, you would see what they are doing, I don't demonize every non profit that tries to help kids. Ark of Hope provides live chatrooms with volunteers who also take calls and emails to listen to survivors stories, they also do major awareness campaigns through social media providing information, resources, and statistics, some statistics are from NCMEC, hell, sometimes I use them too, it's all we have unfortunately. They are not affiliated with NCMEC, did you even look at their affiliates? You are totally wrong about everything, everyone go to Ark Of Hope yourself and read EXACTLY what they do, your whole post is bs.
Piscina ago
Thank you for that info about the chat lines and their 990s. Your statement about my whole post being bs is unfortunate. I still don't understand why, after all your agitation and foot-stomping about mcmec, you would choose to endorse aoh and its ambassador, Strongbow aka Blackhorn33. I have noticed that since last year's post he has removed his referral to MAKEITULTRA.
notagame ago
So you're saying this claim is false? @Honeybee_ , you've danced around the subject, but this is a major point that seems to be substantiated,
And what about this. This is for @Vindicator also who seems to be making false claims of his own. Isn't the following an example of ''proof';?
So @piscina provides proof with links and @Vindicator and @Honeybee_ dismiss it with what? Saying there is no proof?
If this is coming down to a RT not being in support of anyone, then that is what should be said, but it's kind of a weak defense. We've been relying on follows and RTs, etc. as a way of proving relationships, and most of these trails turn out to be accurate. So IF someone does RT something because it purports to be helping children, they should make that clear. It's difficult to remember every freakin' organization involved in this shit, so that would be the way to go.
Because that's not the way either of you went, I can only conclude this is another example of unfairness in getting rid of thread you don't like, and that's too damn bad. You're supposed to offer free speech, and refuting thing is fine, but not when you take advantage of your positions here and delete threads on the basis of conjecture and miscategorizing something as having ''no proof'' when it did offer ''proof by way of quotes and links''.
You're encouraged to disagree, but burying something isn't the way to go.
letsdothis2 ago
Because I'm a bit of an arithmetic and numerology nerd, I just want to point to the numbers in their address:
Also, Google maps.... can't get a street view on that address..no time to look any further. Perhaps someone else will.
cc: @Piscina
Piscina ago
Thanks. I will have a bit more of a look tomorrow when I have more time.
Vindicator ago
How does retweeting a positive message by someone on Twitter make anyone "somewhat affiliated"? That's just complete bullshit.
Also, just saying these guys are fake because you haven't seen X or Y doesn't make them fake. You need to provide linked evidence they are not divulging something required of organizations claiming similar status. Yet here you are, making a false claim Honeybee_ is "affiliated" and then requiring her to provide financials you say are required and missing (with no evidence). This is the logical equivalent of asking her "Are you still beating your children?" No matter how she responds, you've framed her. It's completely dishonest.
DeathToMasonsASAP ago
We knew all the mods positions on this subject before any of you showed up. Why comment You continually hang yourselves.
Piscina ago
Vindicator, I would absolutely LOVE for Melissa to prove me wrong, but she hasn't. When she retweets AOF, she is in fact signalling that she approves of what they do. She has 30,000+ followers. If they are blindly following, which I imagine most are, they will immediately assume that AOH is legit, which at the moment is not the case. There is NOTHING on its website that is evidence of its legitimacy, but there are tonnes of red flags that it is a sham.
If you bothered to read my post, you would see that I have not 'claiming' anything. I am asking a question: why is HoneyBee retweeting AOH considering they're sketchy (and there's plenty of evidence that they are). She has not been able to answer me.
I am asking her to provide financials because, unlike a legit charity, there is nothing that I can find regarding the finances of AOH. Perhaps HoneyBee has access to information that the rest of us are not privy to, and I would love that to be the case. She has a fantastic opportunity here to clear the air and give us the facts. But instead I see her sidestepping and giving a very defensive answer. As I have said, I had a huge amount of respect for her, but this is as shady af.
Vindicator ago
"Considering they're sketchy" is a claim, and you have not provided any evidence of it. The very first thing I did was look to see if you had made any previous posts about Ark of Hope. I expected to see a solid thread providing all kinds of evidence about them. But all I found was the very same year-old thread you linked at the end of your post...which low and behold is a copypasta word for word of the vast majority of this thread...with all of the same problems. Circular argumentation. Repeating yourself is not evidence and doesn't meet the Rule 2 requirements of this subverse.
letsdothis2 ago
Let's start with this: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2656551/13454007 cc: @Piscina
gaystapo ago
God bless you Mellisa. Supported your work from the beginning. I know you're the real deal.