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sore_ass_losers ago

Good article, I would quibble with this part:

"Process Church...membership incl. David Berkowitz, Charlie Manson, Michael Vail Carr III, actor Bobby Beausoleil, millionaire (& sex. slave owner) Andrew Crispo, Dorris Day’s son, Beach Boy’s drummer Dennis Wilson, John Philips (of the Mamas & Papas) & Jimmy Savile."

You may be able to tie these people to Process (don't recognize all the names) but it's a stretch to say they were officially members, just like that, w/o any support. Kind of an inflammatory, throw-away comment. Perhaps Springmeier has covered these individuals elsewhere?

Manson and Savile did interviews with the Process magazine, so did Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger, and groupie Marianne Faithful. Does that make them all members? To be members they would have to undergo Scientology-like auditing('/brainwashing').

Dennis Wilson got involved with the Manson family for the girls, music, and ideas, and famously ditched them by abandoning his rented house to them. (Most detailed account I've read http://www.nedrock.org/bad-vibrations-dennis-wilson-the-manson-family/ . Dennis Wilson was the only Beach Boy to surf!)

votesarestolen ago

More accurate would be to say that the Manson Family and Berkowitz plus his Son of Sam accomplices were members of cults that branched off from the Process Church and took their ideology. Defenders of the Process Church get upset when these people are called members of the official church itself, and they're technically correct, but it's not a highly relevant distinction. The Process Church is most likely an intelligence front designed to draw in people who will congregate into Satanic cults that are inspired by the Process but technically not affiliated with the organization. As a piece of suggestive evidence, consider the fact that the Process Church was incorporated by New Orleans intelligence asset Tommy Baumler.

sore_ass_losers ago

"Baumbler [sic] was an attorney based out of New Orleans. He helped the Process incorporate as a church with tax exempt status in 1966. Processean Timothy Wylie remembered him fondly in 'Love Sex Fear Death.'

Baumbler would later on become ordained in a very strange church known as the American Orthodox Catholic Church (AOCC). Several individuals linked to the JFK assassination seem to have been involved with this church, which has led some to believe it was an intelligence front. I've written a bit on the AOCC before here.

['here' links to http://visupview.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-jfk-assassination-strange-and_22.html]

What's more, the AOCC seems to have shared membership overlap with an even more mysterious and intelligence connected organization known as the Sovereign Order of Saint John (SOSJ). Its membership included over a dozen former US generals and admirals and a few CIA assets by the 1960s. I've written more on the SOSJ before here.

['here' links to http://visupview.blogspot.com/2013/10/a-vast-right-wing-conspiracy-secret_8539.html] "

http://visupview.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-process-strange-and-terrible_31.html in comments

sore_ass_losers ago

Here's an interview with Kerry Thornley, who was pals with Oswald in the military:

K.T.: The guy I talked to in New Orleans always said that they were going to get Martin Luther King. As for Bobby Kennedy, I don’t know. There’s one common thread that runs through all this stuff and that’s an organization that was organized shortly after Kennedy’s death and that was the PROCESS CHURCH. W.C.H.: I’m familiar with that. K.T.: They had tried to frame me in New Orleans for something I didn’t do, which had been my actual participation in the assassination, which I didn’t realize until later. They were involved in Kennedy’s death somehow, I believe. That might be the link right there. W.C.H.: They seemed to almost be a Manson like cult. K.T.: Some of them were. Some of them were with Papa Doc Devallier, some were with Trudeau, (laughs) I forget the other name…but there were three questions to find out whether you were a Satanist, a Luciferian, and a Jehovist. The Satanist answer was Papa Doc; the Luciferian answer was Trudeau. So their politics were quite varied.

https://flyingtigercomics.wordpress.com/tag/lee-harvey-oswald/

sore_ass_losers ago

That would be Papa Doc of Haiti, and, I think, Pierre Trudeau.

sore_ass_losers ago

I'd agree with ideological descendants of Process.

Whoa, so Baumler operated out of Guy Bannister's office address, the popular 544 Camp St. Very tangled up indeed, with this tie to the JFK assassination.

votesarestolen ago

Yeah, the JFK assassination link is pretty creepy. And that's not the only place where it shows up. David Ferrie was, according to Daniel Hopsicker in Barry and 'the Boys', a pedophile who had "books on the occult and hypnotism" in his house. Harry Connick, Jim Garrison's successor as DA who tried to destroy a lot of his files, helped cover up child abuse by a Catholic priest.