James Alefantis allegedly went on Pol and made a big freudian slip (pizzagate)

submitted ago by AmyJames

Someone sent me this and asked me to post it, Innocent Pizza Chef visiting /pol/ earlier (July 1 I believe) I was not there and I don't use reddit and I don't really know how exactly pol even runs but it appears as though he refers to his customers as his clients. Odd for a person with a pizza shop to call the random customers entering off and on throughout the day / week / month his clients, wouldn't you say?

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SoberSecondThought ago

I agree the transition from "my shop" to "his clients" is highly suspicious. But I actually find something else in that post even more suspect.

When he says "He already said he doesn't even like kids," that is very, very interesting to me, because the poster (whoever it is) is referring back to something Alefantis said to a researcher back in January. The researcher put up a YouTube video about the Pegasus Museum that Alefantis clearly found very alarming; he got into a Twitter DM conversation and phone call with Alefantis, and Alefantis very bluntly threatened his life and the lives of his family. This mirror video covers the whole episode fairly well. In it, Alefantis does three things of special interest:

  1. He uses threats of murder in a very casual, practiced way, as if this is far from the first time he has done it.

  2. He shows a really shallow understanding of online culture, referring to things he saw on Voat but asking, "What's mods?"

  3. He specifically says, "Everything they say about me is true. Except I don't like kids."

This visit to /pol/ has all the same characteristics. It sounds to me like the same guy. Alefantis is not a criminal mastermind, he plunges into interacting with researchers without preparing or thinking things through. He leaves a trail of clues a mile wide. As someone observed in the /pol/ thread, "Protection from officials has made you all sloppy, sloppy, sloppy."

I strongly urge anyone investing time in researching Pizzagate, to sit down and spend an hour or two just absorbing the clues that Alefantis provides in that video, linked above.

SoberSecondThought ago

Some further thoughts. People should also read the posts of birdzeyeview, who is strongly suspected of being Alefantis. It's just really, really revealing.

First, it shows the relatively limited resources that are being put into covering this up. There isn't a single experienced /b/tard overseeing the shilling for these guys, because if there was, he would immediately forbid Alefantis from ever going online. The guy is a loose cannon, as this thread illustrates. The thread is about the alleged rape victim holding an AMA on Reddit. Alefantis is flailing around everywhere, on Reddit, and on Voat. Over on Reddit he apparently tried to argue that he couldn't have raped his teenage employee because he's strictly a bottom, and finds topping "gross". Meanwhile on Voat he posted a total of five times in the thread, issuing vague threats about libel, calling everyone stupid, and fooling nobody as to his identity.

Occasionally he has made points that are based on more sober research, but they're the sort of thing that a $10-an-hour shill could do. So why is he doing it? Using the same username, he once went on Reddit and posted this:

you forgot about the underground tunnels (train tunnels) the pottery kilns (for cremation/s) random deaths of random people (Peterson, Kidman) the footie player who is a completely different footie player to who they said, the architect L'Enfant who did/not design DC a couple hundred years ago, the art by Louise B that you would have to be a very serious collector to afford, The fact Assange is not actually dead at all.....

then add in the drama, the drama, the drama in all caps, many !!!!! the drama, a bucketload more drama, and bingo! it all comes together /s

Now sure, those were all legitimate screwups. Again, I feel sure he laughs about the tunnel theory and brings it up at every opportunity, because there isn't a tunnel. The signal-to-noise ratio here on /v/pizzagate is pretty damn low sometimes. But while we're tediously sifting through LARPers and Sorcha Fail and endless clickbaity crap ... guess what? Alefantis is doing the same thing. He's reading all those false leads because there's nobody he can trust to do it for him. And he's not actually very good at it. This is way outside his skill set, even when he isn't drunk.

paulf ago

But while we're tediously sifting through LARPers and Sorcha Fail and endless clickbaity crap ... guess what? Alefantis is doing the same thing. He's reading all those false leads because there's nobody he can trust to do it for him. And he's not actually very good at it. This is way outside his skill set, even when he isn't drunk.

This is both remarkable insight and grimly amusing. My guess is that many, many of these fuckers have been nervous wrecks for months now as the combined autism of /pol/, here and elsewhere closes in. When is the hammer going to fall? Who will it be? My own people? Or Trump?

PedoStomper ago

Trump and the Elite, sitting in a tree, C-O-L-L-U-D-I-N-G.

paulf ago

No. Let me be clear. James Rothschild is waiting for either his own side to off him or the side of law and order, i.e. Trump. If you have a single shred of evidence that Trump is on the side of the globalists, by all means share it. Because they themselves been trying for a good two years now to discredit him and haven't succeeded.

PedoStomper ago

I feel like all of their "fighting" with each other is all staged. A big psy op to make people believe the "alt right" will save them. People like Cernovich and Milo, who throw up the 666 hand sign all the time in photographs. These people are not our friends.

UnicornAndSparkles ago

I don't doubt for a second there isn't tunnels. I feel like he's mocking us because the entrance will be hidden like the toilet doors. Or the two day clean up when they closed down after the obvious false flag scary incident involving a Pizzagate researcher and a gun, could have easily given them time to cement it up.

Edit .. In regards to getting sloppy, I agree completely plus a possible use of drugs screwing his perception of this situation plus narcassim. You can't treat another human being in the ways we have learnt without being narcassitic to say the very least. I urge everyone to educate themselves on this behaviour. It will be there downfall.

10060440? ago

Affluenza is real! Rich people lacking in compassion raise offspring without moral compass.

AmyJames ago

There are numerous online support groups and v-logs for people to teach the ins and outs of narcissism. It's today's most recognized personality disorder.

10059091? ago

That's for sure ! I barely realized that my own mother has this disorder , I have done research as to what causes this and there is no known cause , but most narcissistic have had some huge trama in their lives. Once you are awake to this behavior, you can start healing for sure and never be a victim again ! Or you could go in a completely different direction and get even with your abuser . Once the narcissist figures out that your "on to them " YOU start getting accused and set up to be the person that they actually are . They are able to make you look crazy because they can charm anyone ! They can never admit fault or genuinely be sorry for anything ! If you question them you are disrespecting them .

UnicornAndSparkles ago

Cc .. I am sorry to hear that. I have been told by an abuse worker that they appear to be either way way way too loved .. or not loved at all.

The beauty is children of these types of people have the ability to be super kind caring and loyal .. or can go the same way as the parents. Congratulations you chose to care!

As people have described in other comments there is different disorders, e.g. Passive aggressive, borderline, antisocial, that are in the same cluster B personality types.

10061559? ago

Thank you U&S it truly is a sad situation . I wish I could help her . Her mom was killed when she was only 16 in a head on car accident. She herself was with my dad when she was only 15 , so that tells you right there the mother didn't protect her from harm . Back in the 50's girls married young I know , but doesn't make it right .

Truthseeker3000 ago

I think you all are referring to Borderline Personality Disorder which definitely has narcissistic personality traits due to trauma but just plain narcassism without trauma would be deemed a psychopath...

Judgejewdy ago

Just plain narcissism is...narcissism.

10060010? ago

Thanks for that

10057530? ago

i feel like it's also a bit misunderstood and pop-psychologied these days, so i recommend relatively academic sources and also reading the anecdotes of people WITH narcissism to get an idea of what their inner experience is like (thus what drives them) and the anecdotes from people who've dealt with them, whether romantically, in their family, or at the workplace. that would give you the most well-rounded understanding from a layman's perspective and help you spot their behavioral patterns/manipulation both in real life and on this board.

AmyJames ago

ok, do you have any links for such a thing you would care to share? I have only seen the amateurs and the shrinks but I've never seen anyone admit they're a narcissist, except this one guy from 20 years ago who said that he knows he's not supposed to but he really believes he is better than everyone else.

10076279? ago

plenty of narcissists know that they're narcissists, from the spectrum of it being an intuitive knowing to them being clinically diagnosed. if they need you for something they're not going to admit this to you, but they really do know exactly who and what they are.

anecdotes from narcissists

anecdotal posts concerning covert narcissists

this page has a lot of valuable information on the disorder, with academic citations. if you need more than that it's easy to google it and sift through the sensationalized bullshit.

this page covers covert narcissism. millenials experience this manifestation of NPD at epidemic rates, imo. snowflakes and transgenders in particular.

those are some starting points, if you google people's personal experiences with narcissists just google the dynamic you're curious about (NPD + workplace) there's a lot out there so i can't really sift through those and point you in any direction. some people are really dramatic about their experience with NPD people, so many of these anecdotes are written sensationally. rather than be emotionally affected by the way the person is writing, take note of the behavioral dynamics between them and the narc, and how manipulation manifests in mild to severe forms.

GeorgeT ago

I also believe that he is a heavy drug user.

PedoStomper ago

Well of course. He's a raging homo and a fucking child trafficking pimp. I'm sure he rails lines up his nose, sniffs poppers, and shoots up pills.

Gothamgirl ago

Same here you can tell by his employees.

ImmortalCommunity ago

David is Homer's Achilles and this is why James is related to The Rothschild Family.

bibigirl_ ago

Outside his shill* set

neo50 ago

Good one!

SoberSecondThought ago

Heh. An upvoat for you!