James Alefantis allegedly went on Pol and made a big freudian slip (pizzagate)

submitted ago by AmyJames

Someone sent me this and asked me to post it, Innocent Pizza Chef visiting /pol/ earlier (July 1 I believe) I was not there and I don't use reddit and I don't really know how exactly pol even runs but it appears as though he refers to his customers as his clients. Odd for a person with a pizza shop to call the random customers entering off and on throughout the day / week / month his clients, wouldn't you say?

http://imgur.com/a/YSkMj

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SoberSecondThought ago

I agree the transition from "my shop" to "his clients" is highly suspicious. But I actually find something else in that post even more suspect.

When he says "He already said he doesn't even like kids," that is very, very interesting to me, because the poster (whoever it is) is referring back to something Alefantis said to a researcher back in January. The researcher put up a YouTube video about the Pegasus Museum that Alefantis clearly found very alarming; he got into a Twitter DM conversation and phone call with Alefantis, and Alefantis very bluntly threatened his life and the lives of his family. This mirror video covers the whole episode fairly well. In it, Alefantis does three things of special interest:

  1. He uses threats of murder in a very casual, practiced way, as if this is far from the first time he has done it.

  2. He shows a really shallow understanding of online culture, referring to things he saw on Voat but asking, "What's mods?"

  3. He specifically says, "Everything they say about me is true. Except I don't like kids."

This visit to /pol/ has all the same characteristics. It sounds to me like the same guy. Alefantis is not a criminal mastermind, he plunges into interacting with researchers without preparing or thinking things through. He leaves a trail of clues a mile wide. As someone observed in the /pol/ thread, "Protection from officials has made you all sloppy, sloppy, sloppy."

I strongly urge anyone investing time in researching Pizzagate, to sit down and spend an hour or two just absorbing the clues that Alefantis provides in that video, linked above.

SoberSecondThought ago

Some further thoughts. People should also read the posts of birdzeyeview, who is strongly suspected of being Alefantis. It's just really, really revealing.

First, it shows the relatively limited resources that are being put into covering this up. There isn't a single experienced /b/tard overseeing the shilling for these guys, because if there was, he would immediately forbid Alefantis from ever going online. The guy is a loose cannon, as this thread illustrates. The thread is about the alleged rape victim holding an AMA on Reddit. Alefantis is flailing around everywhere, on Reddit, and on Voat. Over on Reddit he apparently tried to argue that he couldn't have raped his teenage employee because he's strictly a bottom, and finds topping "gross". Meanwhile on Voat he posted a total of five times in the thread, issuing vague threats about libel, calling everyone stupid, and fooling nobody as to his identity.

Occasionally he has made points that are based on more sober research, but they're the sort of thing that a $10-an-hour shill could do. So why is he doing it? Using the same username, he once went on Reddit and posted this:

you forgot about the underground tunnels (train tunnels) the pottery kilns (for cremation/s) random deaths of random people (Peterson, Kidman) the footie player who is a completely different footie player to who they said, the architect L'Enfant who did/not design DC a couple hundred years ago, the art by Louise B that you would have to be a very serious collector to afford, The fact Assange is not actually dead at all.....

then add in the drama, the drama, the drama in all caps, many !!!!! the drama, a bucketload more drama, and bingo! it all comes together /s

Now sure, those were all legitimate screwups. Again, I feel sure he laughs about the tunnel theory and brings it up at every opportunity, because there isn't a tunnel. The signal-to-noise ratio here on /v/pizzagate is pretty damn low sometimes. But while we're tediously sifting through LARPers and Sorcha Fail and endless clickbaity crap ... guess what? Alefantis is doing the same thing. He's reading all those false leads because there's nobody he can trust to do it for him. And he's not actually very good at it. This is way outside his skill set, even when he isn't drunk.

UnicornAndSparkles ago

I don't doubt for a second there isn't tunnels. I feel like he's mocking us because the entrance will be hidden like the toilet doors. Or the two day clean up when they closed down after the obvious false flag scary incident involving a Pizzagate researcher and a gun, could have easily given them time to cement it up.

Edit .. In regards to getting sloppy, I agree completely plus a possible use of drugs screwing his perception of this situation plus narcassim. You can't treat another human being in the ways we have learnt without being narcassitic to say the very least. I urge everyone to educate themselves on this behaviour. It will be there downfall.

AmyJames ago

There are numerous online support groups and v-logs for people to teach the ins and outs of narcissism. It's today's most recognized personality disorder.

10059091? ago

That's for sure ! I barely realized that my own mother has this disorder , I have done research as to what causes this and there is no known cause , but most narcissistic have had some huge trama in their lives. Once you are awake to this behavior, you can start healing for sure and never be a victim again ! Or you could go in a completely different direction and get even with your abuser . Once the narcissist figures out that your "on to them " YOU start getting accused and set up to be the person that they actually are . They are able to make you look crazy because they can charm anyone ! They can never admit fault or genuinely be sorry for anything ! If you question them you are disrespecting them .

UnicornAndSparkles ago

Cc .. I am sorry to hear that. I have been told by an abuse worker that they appear to be either way way way too loved .. or not loved at all.

The beauty is children of these types of people have the ability to be super kind caring and loyal .. or can go the same way as the parents. Congratulations you chose to care!

As people have described in other comments there is different disorders, e.g. Passive aggressive, borderline, antisocial, that are in the same cluster B personality types.

10061559? ago

Thank you U&S it truly is a sad situation . I wish I could help her . Her mom was killed when she was only 16 in a head on car accident. She herself was with my dad when she was only 15 , so that tells you right there the mother didn't protect her from harm . Back in the 50's girls married young I know , but doesn't make it right .