What looked to be a run-of-the mill update from Ryan (@IsThisGameOfThrones), who has a pizzagate billboard project underway, turned out to be a fantastic lesson in red-pilling random Starbucks patrons about pizzagate.
Our beloved Ryan is trying to do a livestream outside, when a bird flies by and literally shits on the people next to him. Ryan just happens to have Wet Wipes on hand, and quickly makes a friend:
https://youtu.be/guWbkw7YNuE?t=4m19s (from 4:20 to 11:17)
Do you all have these types of experiences (not the bird shit part, but the random red-pilling)?
Many have said that our real power is in our ability to reach people in real life. We haven't talked much here about doing this. We've had a couple rallies, but that's different. Only 50 or so were able to attend the DC event, and it was tainted by Alex Jone's shenanigans the night before... however there are tens of thousands of us meeting people every day.
To me this is very scary to do, i'm not good with rejection, or dealing with people's cognitive dissonance, the anger that comes up when you threaten someone's comfort zone. Any suggestions? Stories?
In case you're interested, here is information about the Pizzagate Billboard Campaign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCqnJZGjjLc
Go Fund Me
Pizzagategear on Facebook
Pizzagategear dot com
TL;DR: ALWAYS CARRY WET WIPES
IsThisGameOfThrones ago
Hey! Glad you enjoyed that. thank you so much for spreading the word on the PizzaGate Billboard Campaign!
V____Z ago
thank you! Yes, I learned a lot by watching that spontaneous interaction. We're all called to do that, it helps to see an example. I liked how you kept bringing it back to pizzagate when the conversation started to branch way out. Very skillful.
V____Z ago
Dang, i thought it was great.
Judgejewdy ago
Pizzagatebot is used to flag posts they don't want to be seen. Been posting and he's been following me and my good posts aren't getting traction. Not sure how or why, but there's something funny going on with that thing.
V____Z ago
thank you for alerting us. yeah, he's bad news for sure. I didn't know until yesterday, then he accused me of exactly what he is doing, explaining his MO better than I ever could: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1774072/8688677
VieBleu ago
Great Stuff!! Always like to hear from Ryan. (His 22,000 arrests since Trump comment though, needs to be dialed back - we aren't there yet unfortunately. The figure is more like 1500.) Dismiss the griping grousers - an obviously well intentioned non-anonymous guy is out spreading the word and of course he's going to get attacked. comes with the territory.
WELL DONE RYAN. KEEP SELLING GEAR AND SPREADING AWARENESS.
As I said on PG Howie's thread - if anyone is in the area, join up! Or join up with others in your area.
IsThisGameOfThrones ago
I thought I said 2,200?
VieBleu ago
sounded like thousands - How about a Pizzagate Summit - Wolfe, You, Frost, Seaman all get together and hammer out (personally not publicly) what must be minor differences, and then you move forward in cooperation.
There is no problem selling or gaining $ in this cause. There is not richness to be made, but leaders and speakers need to bring awareness and if there is a wealth to be made with pedogate, it only means there is a wide audience to support this cause.
THE TIME FOR SHILLS TO SAY THERE IS NO WAY ANYBODY CAN BE SELF FUNDED FROM THIS CAUSE IS OVER.
IsThisGameOfThrones ago
This is exactly what I'm trying to do. Organize and spread awareness in a professional manner.
dougG ago
No, not at all. Never even watched none of his videos. I don't follow anyone.
PizzagateBot ago
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dougG ago
Don't even dare to bring up Occam's razor on this site. If anybody applied it into PG we wouldn't be coming up with all these jackass interpretations of the podesta emails
0xFFF ago
you would not say that if you understood Occam's razor
abortionburger ago
I will decline your offer.
druhill007 ago
Hahaha. Glad I read this all the way to the bottom πππ
rwb ago
In another thread, you offer evidence again that Alefantis is of Rothschild's, the most ruthless and powerful family in the history of the world, but ask why Alex might have needed to back off Alefantis the pizza guy. Why is Alefantis supposed to be a pizza guy to Jones, but a Rothschild when it suits you?
VieBleu ago
It's pretty easy to discern that the pizza guy* is being said sarcastically - to support the idea that JA is a Rothschild.
rwb ago
In context, that is not true. V____Z and other Jones bashers have said Jones should have been willing take on a defamation suit from Alefantis, a suit that would be processed in a D.C. courtroom, in the very viper's den, very possibly heard by a judge who has a predilection for pizza, initiated by someone with enough family money to bury Infowars in legal costs, probably before ever even getting to trial. V____Z and other Jones bashers order a slice for Jones that is just cheese, but all dressed for themselves when it suits them.
VieBleu ago
what does this mean?
rwb ago
It's a metaphor.
VieBleu ago
Hmm. As an extended metaphor, not really working for ya. But thanks for explaining.
You don't comment much. Why does someone discrediting Jones trigger you to such a degree - after all he's been attacked for years.
For what it's worth, I don't think most people who are attacked including both Jones and V__T are nearly the villians they are made out to be.
V____Z ago
He comments a lot - most of it about or to me. Sometimes to physically threaten me.
rwb ago
What is your gauge to say I don't comment much? I am not triggered by efforts to discredit, but rather efforts to destroy. V____Z's objective is to destroy. It's to say Jones is CIA and by necessary logical extension, pedo child sacrifice cover upperer. There is no other way to read it. Jones may have faults, and may have flinched for perhaps the first time staring down a bona fide Rothschild in the flesh being backed by Megan Kelly and six media empires, but his reputation for telling the world that it's run by satanic pedophiles is beyond dispute. So is his reputation for bringing the MMR vaccine causes skyrocketing autism rates story to the masses also beyond dispute.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1771271/8676569/10#8676569
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1754846/8595738/10#8595738
Jones has literally pulled hundreds or even thousands of families out of a potential lifetime of pure hell and misery for telling them to stop giving all prescribed vaccines un-staggered and at such an early age especially MMR. There are real children in the U.S. right now that will live a normal life because of one Alex Jones.
VieBleu ago
I understand standing up for Jones. I have posted an AJ thread myself that was positive and got over a hundred upvotes.
Have you physically threatened V____T?
V____Z ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1772036/8680099/10#8680099
He lied because he said something besides that he wanted to get violent. In this comment he retracts, and insinuates that I do inspire violence and he'd like to see me IRL for that reason.
VieBleu ago
the threat isn't so bad - anytime someone uses fisticuffs you can't take it too seriously. I wouldn't spend any more time on it. You've made your arguments, rbw made his. He's not a shill, I told him you aren't either. I wrote a bit to rbw, I happen to be more of his opinion regarding AJ, but not enough to defend like he does. AJ spent almost a whole broadcast 2 days ago just on pedogate, looked like a reasonable effort. I hope that helps diffuse things a little. This stuff happens.
V____Z ago
I never claimed that it was bad, just creepy.
VieBleu ago
I understand - I told him to stop attacking you, if he wants to leave counter arguments that's fine, just not attacks Hope that helps.
V____Z ago
If he wants to give Alex Jones a good name, he should not be attacking people in his name, Either way, you've been wonderful and I will just be ignoring him from now on.
V____Z ago
thank you for your efforts, i hope it helps restore some peace and get us back to the issue.
VieBleu ago
keep strong. we may disagree about some topics but I count you a real warrior.
V____Z ago
I really appreciate that. It's never personal, as you know.
rwb ago
Can you tell me why you ask that question?
Edit: Ah now I see V____Z's typically embellished drivel. Here's a link to the thread that will answer your question in entirety. It requires a small bit of setup. V____Z and I were exchanging cordials elsewhere, and I said I hope we meet some day. He asked me why, and I fabricated a story implying something other than wanting to shake him out of his somnambulistic stupor. Later, in the heat of the moment, I said I lied.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1772036/8686430/10#8686430
I wouldn't waste the physical energy to answer the door if V____Z came knocking.
VieBleu ago
Ok I get that you are upset and want to defend Jones, and probaby leave a record for others to read. But let's face it, Jones has had critics from day one and always will. This is a free speech forum, you both can have your views and go round and round. How about just making it more of a disagreement discussion with the personal stuff removed completely. I'll suggest the same to V__T. No one wants to be weirded out by any of us actually meeting one another to carry on a fight! lol If it makes you feel any better, I basically agree with you about AJ, but V__T is not a shill from what I've seen. let's treat each other a bit more civilly and see if we can't get to the bottom of things without so much drama. Let's save the drama for the uneven and curated moderation and poor website tech that we are all subject to.
rwb ago
It is incumbent upon V____Z to cease and desist in the Jones is CIA pedo cover upperer program at VOAT. The minute he redirects his attention back to anything and everything besides Jones, I am off the job. You can pass on the message.
V____Z ago
You asked what a shill is earlier, and someone told you that it is you. You have just defined that. You say it is your job to hound me if I ever mention Alex Jones, and that you won't stop until I do. That is a shill.
This is supposed to be a place for people who care about saving children. You aren't here for that. You're here to defend an adult, a very powerful man, and to hurt anyone who gets in the way of your goal. This isn't an Alex Jones sub. You've outed yourself. And the children are no better off in the meantime. Either help, or go away, but do not get in the way, for you will answer to your maker one day.
rwb ago
I've made it my job to provide counter measures to your program to destroy Jones. What good reason is there for me to stop challenging your assertions? Are you really so deluded to believe I should relinquish and give you free reign to continue to destroy the man because you claim have a better pipeline to the Great Arbiter just because you said so? Fellow Christian, you need counselling in a bad way. You're a staggering hypocrite who just proved it yet again by insinuating you are worthy of free reign to eviscerate Jones at will, and I should slink off into the abyss because it's your desire. If you wish to help the children, you will cease with the nighttime raids on Alex Jones. Einstein once said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different outcome.
V____Z ago
Listen, I am doing what I always do. It is only since Alex made his apology that suddenly this forum is being flooded with posts related to InfoWars, to which I respond. And I post what is relevant too, and lately a lot of people are referencing him. So your promise to troll me until I never mention him again is pretty fucked up. for instance, I am innocently posting a pizzagate-related interview with one of our heroes, and as I'm transcribing, she mentions Alex Jones. Then I realize I have just done it again, according to you, my personal troll. I have just purposefully posted something meant to actually destroy Alex Jones. If people are talking about him then he's going to get mentioned here, and since I post more than anyone else on this sub, then a lot of the time I'm going to end up mentioning him. It's wrong that you would try to make me censor myself and others to avoid being threatened and hounded by you.
And when I post an interview about pizzagate, and you downvote it out of spite, are you really helping or hindering this investigation? This directly affects children, not me. This is what you'll have to answer for one day.
rwb ago
Why would you think I would find something objectionable in your latest thread, the contents of which I have been keenly listening to? There's nothing objectionable in it. I have discretion and can distinguish fair reporting from other things. Let it be a lesson. Just because you think something's true does not necessarily make it true. I am not out to bring you down. I did not down vote the thread.
VieBleu ago
fair enough. I understand the desire to correct the record and leave counterarguments. That's why I am basically still here and watchdog the mods, mostly Nellie Oleson (see the comment at the bottom here https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1723509/8552486)) who showed an incredible disregard and betrayal of this effort.
But it will be more effective if you just frame it as "I'm leaving this here for future readers" instead of attacking V__T. That way it is just what it is supposed to be. argument and counter argument, let the reader decide for themselves. good luck.
druhill007 ago
GO ON BLEUUUUUUUUUUU ππππππππππππ
VieBleu ago
VieBleu ago
JONES did a whole day of pedo hunting and awareness broadcast just a day or so ago.
PizzagateBot ago
Because V____Z is a puppet account.
Shills 'bake' these puppet accounts till they get to a certain amount of 'credibility' and then they use the account for its intended purpose, disinformation, and when you claim otherwise they just call you a 'shill' or revert to 'look at my submissions and points, im not a shill...' instead of actually making a valid argument.
redditsuckz ago
Whether what you say is true or not cant you keep the "pizzagatebot" account neutral?...I know you have another account to comment...so why not use that one or make another account?
ThePuppetShow ago
I love it that pizzagate bot comes alive and drops truth!
AngB23 ago
I feel like a complete idiot. I seriously didn't know Pizzabot was a real person. Regardless of the fighting going on/who's right or wrong, thanks Pizzabot for all the info you provide on all the posts.
V____Z ago
This is the kind of truth he's dropping - he's trying to discredit a child trafficking victim. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1772148/8683423
AngB23 ago
I do believe Becki is the real deal. The guy that was asking for money to do a film or whatever I was a bit leery of. Not sure who he was.
V____Z ago
I've been seeing Becki tweet about this documentary for a little over a month. I'm not sure if you read the guy's comments when he posted about the upcoming doc here, but he sure seems legit. And she's no dummy, I am sure she vetted him well. If we can trust this Navy Seal who is raising money to go after pedo's, I think we can give this doc filmmaker a fair shake...
AngB23 ago
I saw some of his post. Has he been back? I lost track of that thread
V____Z ago
I don't think so. The thread went nowhere. "Clinton left the foundation!!!" trends for days, but "Let's make a documentary!" got like 2 upvotes :(
Hopefully he's got other resources besides Voat, cuz he's sure not getting any support here.
By the same token, I just posted an incredible interview directly related to pizzagate - it gets 3 downvotes. Next to it is a post questioning whether Courtney Love is a pedo - goes instantly viral.
V____Z ago
That is LITERALLY what "PizzagateBot" is. I thought about warning everyone after last night's comment on a Becki Percy submission - absolutely DISGUSTING https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1772148/8683423
but he makes so many comments in the form of "related voat posts", that he can hide his true intentions - you'd have to scroll through pages and pages to get a grip on why he's here. Who the FUCK would try to discredit Becki Percy? And for that matter, the subject of this submission? NOT people who are here to help the children.
rwb ago
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. The subject of your submission is subject to scrutiny because you could not help but malign Jones yet again. Why it's so habitual, you can't even stop for your own benefit. Had you not included Jones in the body, your latest thread would not be littered with challenges. Here's an exchange you had in another thread where VOAT member newworldahead doles out wisdom. God bless @newworldahead.
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newworldahead: I sincerely hope someday you will understand how counterproductive you are by posting stuff like this. Read my lips: IT. DOESN'T. MATTER!
We all have different perspectives on Pizzagate. IT'S FUCKING OK! Holy shit, people!!! What is this? We are here for THE KIDS. AJ has a role to play, Cernovich has a role to play, David seaman has a role to play and YOU have a role to play. We are on the same team! It's ok if you don't agree with all the other players all the time! Go take a walk, get some fresh air. There are people here who started distancing themselves from ex-navy seal Sawyer because "hmm, I'm not sure if he's legit.." FUCK THIS! This is so stupid. We have to be more intelligent than this. Don't you realize that it's what "they" want? They want that we fight among ourselves and destroy our very own initiative.
PLEASE, I implore you, try to remember why you are here.
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V____Z: I don't know if you read the article - this wasn't about perpectives, this was a surgical dissection of the web of lies surrounding Alex's involvement with pizzagate, and that of MSM's.
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newworldahead: I don't have to read the article V___Z, I read the title and I know it's about creating division within the pizzagate community and therefore I understand it's bullshit, not worth my time. I'm not here for the drama. I'm here to help children.
I'm not very fond of Titus Frost. I think he's very immature and juvenile. I also think that David Seaman should give credit to other researchers instead of talking about "people attacking him". I think that Alex Jones is playing the "fear card" way too much.
Still I respect these 3 individuals. I won't waste my time trying to destroy them just because I don't agree with everything they say. They expose pedophilia and satanic child abuse in their own way. They deserve respect and I love them for that.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1772036/8680966/10#8680966
newworldahead ago
Thanks brother!
PizzagateBot ago
Posts like this give me hope in the sea of shills and disinfo in this subverse.
Thank you for taking the time.
rwb ago
:-)
V____Z ago
shills gonna shill
rwb ago
Given that I've committed some 3000 words to answering your constant charge that Jones is CIA pedo cover upperer, calling me a mere shill is disingenuous at best, and the height of laziness. Youβre going to have to work a lot harder than that to try to make your tripe stick. I think Iβm going to economize on occasion by posting the best of RWB vs. V____Z. Hereβs one where you attempt to lump me in too.
V____Z: But what percentage of his talking was truth, and what was, as another commenter here points out, what is being fed to him by his handlers?
I think Alex is a disinfo agent of the highest order, and always has been. He's dangerous to the truth movement. I also think it's strange that this Alex Jones cheerleading on Voat was not here before his big apology, and that it isn't organic. I think he has a lot to loose by loosing his audience and it would serve him to have people try to control the narrative & get his followers back, no matter what it takes. You've excused every single thing by repeating that no one talks more than AJ. That proves nothing.
RWB: If you realized what leaps of logic are required to make your hypothesis remotely function, you would resign as pseudo investigator and ride off into the sunset in shame.
According to you, Jones is CIA, goes rogue on Alefantis for a few weeks until head office notices, gets a phone call from chief that Alefantis is actually on Jones's team. Jones then goes on offense for Alefantis by going after all other pedo rings in America, which are also protected by CIA, but for some unexplained reason, they're expendable. Meanwhile, Jones hires ace frontman and wordsmith named RWB to pull back a flock of perhaps 10 disgruntled former listeners who are actually deep reading VOAT/pizzagate threads. And meanwhile, over twenty-two years Jones has managed to hoodwink every NWO, NSA, big pharma, vaccines, CPS, chemtrail, satanic Illuminati researcher of any repute that has come on his show, and yes, even the only person to run for president in the last forty years who should have won. Yes, V____Z you are one piece of work.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1772036/8681279/10#8681279
rwb ago
What is a shill?
archons ago
You and that pizzagatebot asshole.
V____Z ago
Now all my submissions are getting downvoted into oblivion...
VieBleu ago
that's their bot/shills doing that.
V____Z ago
:(
archons ago
Its to be expected here. Fuck them, they are doing far worse than downvoting posts. Focus on content.
V____Z ago
Thanks, ok.
Azzipdoe ago
Pizzagategear and seaman are not welcome here. Take your bs somewhere else.
Broke sleezeballs losers like you are what's making pizzagate look like a complete joke to the average person. Get a fucking job.
VieBleu ago
/\/\/\/\/\ Azzipdoe LIES and does not speak for the community
abortionburger ago
What's the problem with Ryan? Is it bc he's fundraising? (serious question)
ThePuppetShow ago
My guess would be that he refused to prove he wasn't lying. Eventually someone is going to have to raise money for the cause. If it's that, it's petty.
abortionburger ago
Go away.
V____Z ago
<3