This is in reference to this post:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1768269
Anyone else get the feeling that this is one giant psyop distraction? It seems the people behind lhohq created this endless rabbit hole of links leading to random creepy (and seemingly cryptic) websites. But most of it seems like it is gibberish with a bunch of buzz words that get people who are red-pulled interested (MKUltra, aliens, 9/11, JFK, even Bigfoot). All of the information seems to be readily available information from the Internet, didn't see a single person find any "new revelations". Also this site was made in 2007 apparently, so way before pizzagate was even on people's investigative radar.
One thing I couldn't figure out though was why alefantis/luzzanos emails would be in that list. There is also a sub site that refers to Madeline mccan and a podesta email. Which made me wonder...what if this was made as a disinformation rabbit hole, and whenever a particular "conspiracy theory" gets closer to being discovered true, they update this site with new information with the latest conspiracy (in this case pizzagate/podesta emails) and some shill spreads it (not saying that OP is a shill, but it is kinda strange that no one discovered this website til now even though we've had alefantis email for a while now).
Also, this didn't reach the front page of r/conspiracy despite being one of the most popular post ever on this subverse, and anytime something catches steam here people usually post it to r/conspiracy (I usually check to read it for the shills and the first time red-pillars).
Thoughts?
NotHereForPizza ago
Please google "lhohq voat" "lhohq reddit" "lhohq 4chan"
You'll find plenty of results. This should be nothing new to the community.
As I've said in every post I've made about the matter, it's not that I don't think we should take time to look into it if people think we should. I'm not disagreeing with that sentiment.
With that being said, this is gaining a lot of traction... again.
This has been posted a lot over the different communities following the same thing we're following here.
privatepizza ago
You could be right, however what do we do when we find a dox containing all PG related people? Not dig? I believe we will be thrown off the scent, and that comes with the territory, surely? How do we decide before we investigate, if it's related or not, a psyop or not?
Imho we're digging just now, and have uncovered important information. As @Gothamgirl said below -
This appears to be a MK ULTRA type of tool box, imho. MK ULTRA is important to us, and if we uncover tools, extremely important to us. We found mentions of Madeline McCann and John Podesta. Should we not have investigated?
Just sayin' : )
AngB23 ago
I haven't dug into the site-too chicken because I've already had to have my computer swept 3 times now digging in stuff from Wiki, but I'd be very curious if there's anything in that mess that talks about Max Spiers. He was exposing MK Ultra stuff and then mysteriously dies.
privatepizza ago
Will do !
MyNameIsLuka ago
I'm interested to see if there is anything in there about JonBenet Ramsey.
Edit: mention of Fleet White would be particularly interesting.
AngB23 ago
I get why some would think this is a big psyop but wasn't this first discovered back in like 2006 on another forum from some guy who found a piece of paper on a bulletin board? If that's true, then how is PG/CPP known back then?
Or are you saying someone who has control of this throws in every year's "new conspiracy theory" for each generation to stumble across? Doesn't make sense. There's apparently lists/phone numbers to very connected people. If those numbers are real, I think there's more to this than some random theories.
privatepizza ago
Exactly.
Drnoway ago
I have the same feeling. There is very little actual information, just a lot of random strange stuff that takes time to go through. Would be interesting to know if those phone numbers work though.
privatepizza ago
I strongly disagree. This is actually a gold mine of information.
They go into deep detail on the Wtc, Iraq, MK ultra, Mk ultra logs (Anthony Weiner was subject #90 at Mit), frequencies, weaponized, vaccines, Pizzagate, Democratic emails, illuminati emails & websites.
privatepizza ago
The phone numbers work apparently. Various people tested them yesterday, one got through to Bill Clinton's secretary, another the office of George Soros. Many more. Check the original thread for info.
Drnoway ago
Ok. The contact info seemed legit, so im not surprised that the numbers work. It was just my gut feeling from all that random shit that it's a diversion. It will be looked through and then we'll know.
privatepizza ago
Yea, it is random, but there's some extremely interesting information in there. You can see on the threads whats been found already. Here's a question. Assuming we will, as an investigation come across diversions, how do we know something's a diversion before we investigate?
Drnoway ago
You are right. Im not saying it shouldn't be investigated. I was just saying my gut feeling out loud. I even said in some topic that my money is on it being a diversion. As in making bets..
privatepizza ago
Understand ! Thanks for doing that (listening to your gut feelings), it's important too : )
Pokes ago
I recently left a comment to that effect on the tread itself. While it felt mind-boggling when I first stumbled upon it, I must admit that now it seems very likely that much of the text was generated by a bot, that it does contain a great deal of conspiracy buzzwords inserted to seemingly no end, and that it's peculiar to have been discovered before without ever having led anywhere (especially considering how deep this hole appears to be). So yeah, not sold. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvxQEJW00ps&feature=youtu.be This video feels like some sort of conspiracy-themed vaporwave (music genre).
Drnoway ago
This.
Pokes ago
I said as much in the og thread and was told that someone reported already having done so in the very thread. Clinton's n Soros' secretaries supposedly answered at their offices. Can't say I blame whomever, if they in fact called, for not trying the Clintons on their home line. Lol.
RedGreenAlliance ago
No the OPs point is its a general disinfo rabbit hole, where TPTB can just update and spread to catch and divert investigations into a morass of bullshit. I think ;-)
gt8h65fg ago
Because the author is JA. lol maybe.
Micheal84 ago
I understand why u are suspicious, im not a shill.
Just a random guy who stumbled on this. More people say it was found before, which is true.
I realy have no idea what this site is for, but you could be right.
I never knew my post would blew up like this, but its word investigating. I think.
Gothamgirl ago
No, its connects to other sites with very current & good information. Synt.us
Vindicator ago
A number of PG investigators I respect, who have contributed significant research, agree with your assessment @DengPing. This was discovered back in the early days of the investigation but not much ever came of it.
privatepizza ago
I understand @Vindicator, however the website has evolved since then. It's recently came online again, and is linked to a few other sites now too. We're finding new information on them, previously undiscovered.
Vindicator ago
Fair enough, @privatepizza. I respect that. I'm leaving the tentative warning up on the other thread just to keep people on their toes. Please ping me if someone finds something really solid that would lead me to switch the flair to "Potential Lead". I am willing to do it, if there is good reason to.
privatepizza ago
Thank you @Vindicator ! I messaged you on that thread too with information that we found mentions of John Podesta and Madeline McCann on those sites. The dox also contains all PG related people, including Tamara Luzzetto and another Luzzetto we're trying to identify. These points have me thinking that we have leads here.
I hope you feel that this info is strong enough to change the flair to 'Potential Lead'. Either way, thanks for your great support as always : )
Vindicator ago
I commented in that thread also. Keep digging, but keep in mind that the doxing may be bait as well to incite a witchhunt by "crazy puritanical Christians". This fits the Share Blue disinfo campaign.
privatepizza ago
That's good advice and I thank you for it. Appreciate it, and I'll be keeping that in mind. Cheers.
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