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samhara ago

Part 2, What does this have to do with "Pizzagate?"

Dr. Steve Pieczenic : THEY ARE GOING DOWN SCREAMING LIKE DYING ALEPHANTS!

I extrapolate here how, according to sources within the U.S. Military - Intelligence nexus,

George Webb , who appeared out of nowhere with the evident intention of teaching a substantial number of people what it is that is going on . George W. [lol] has a vast body of information which he says is passed to him. The inference is that "Webb" appeared for a reason - especially given the timing of his appearance with the breaking of "Pizzagate" and election of Trump Dr. Steve Pieczenik Dr. Morgan Reynolds,

The "Clinton / Podesta" emails were leaked in particular to defeat Clinton, because of the massive crime associated with her name and with that her associates - which I will call the "Octopus"

Source: Interview of Dr. Steve Pieczenik by Alex Jones

Dr. Steve Pieczenik: We Did The Counter-Coup Through E-mails And Assange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25XFMRr74rA

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1498628

"George Webb" a pseudonymous educator on the outlook of "Pizzagate larger context" calls the large networked group "The Octopus" whom Dr. Steve P. stated a "Counter Coup" was directed against .

[Webb is aware of the work of Danny Casaloro And likely named himself for present purposes after Gary Webb who is famous for first researching and reporting on the Cocaine Traffic from South American / Government involvement - and who ended up "suicided" with two bullet to the back of his head -

At 3:55 p.m. Friday afternoon Sacramento Coroner's Investigator Dave Brown determined that the dead man had committed suicide with a hand gun. Dave Brown said that the first wound was not fatal and a second shot took the man's life. Dave Brown further stated, "There is no other possibility but suicide." Spokesmen for the investigative units of three different sheriff's departments contacted stated that suicides seen with two shots to the head inflicted by a hand gun are extremely rare. Each man interviewed also said that they have heard of such cases but had never personally seen one.]

George "Webb" has stated, to paraphrase ~ "I started looking at a little shiny shell on the beach, then I pulled on it and it turns out it was giant octopus"

So really that's why this post is so long. There are so many connections to "Pizzagate"

[I will discuss the logic issues around reasoning, separating truth from fiction somewhere else, but a familiarity with that is essential for Pizzagate investigators not only to easily defeat the trolls but in order to know how to recognize truth [what you can know] and separate it out from lies. source TRIVIUM course in classical logic and how to defeat the "jokers." This is so essential to Pizzagate research ! ]

"Webb" does have a professed resume/ vio which is less than believable

"I studied business. I am not a journalist" , he stated on an interview on Hagman and Hagman Untangling Dyncorp & Dead Bodies With George Webb

and he gives no other background. We are supposed to believe he is "just a guy" like anyone else. I believe a lot of what he reports because I know the insiders want to "get" these people, or some of them anyway, and put an end to all the shame.

My citation for that?

Morgan Reynolds, who was Assistant Secretary of Labor in the W. Bush Admin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_Reynolds

Dr. Reynolds wrote in 2006 that there was a group of insiders who participated in 9/11 who were horrified at it, and who had been tricked into participation. [ I will give the full quote below , since I believe by the time I'm through I' ll be out of space here. But here is a link to the article. ]

The original term "Octopus" was coined by Danny Casolaro and is detailed in a book:

THE OCTOPUS Feral House Press. Secret Government and the Death of Danny Casolaro Kenn Thomas and Jim Keith & Jim Keith

http://feralhouse.com/the-octopus/

Casolaro was suicided [source is in the link above] in Virginia in the early '90's. The book linked above studied Casolaro's research and death. One of the book's authors "Keith" met an unnatural death at the "Burn the Man" Festival in Black Rock desert

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keith

On September 7, [Keith] entered the Washoe Medical hospital for knee surgery and died in the Intensive Care Unit shortly after surgery was completed when a blood clot released and entered his lung. The coroner's report listed cause of death as "blunt force trauma." Cryptically, Keith stated, prior to his death, "I have this feeling that if they put me under I'm not coming back". He is survived by two daughters.[3 ]

My source for the notion there are insiders who back Trump is Dr. Steven P. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1498628

Here is a short excerpt from his resume:

Pieczenik was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker.[3] His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare.[7] He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary.[8]

In 1974, Pieczenik joined the United States Department of State as a consultant to help in the restructuring of its Office for the Prevention of Terrorism.[2]

So Dr Steven P. and Morgan Reynolds are more highly qualified sources for the inner workings of our government than the New York Times - whose chief has been caught twice for covering up rampant pedophilia.

The mod can claim "that's my opinion" - but prove me wrong before deleting. I have my sources. Mod may have theirs?

equineluvr ago

Nobody has "gone down" yet, so I don't know what Piecznik is referring to.

He is "former CIA," a former long-time CFR member and worked for Kissinger, Vance, and Baker.
And you call those what, "great qualifications?!" NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD TRUST THAT GUY!!

Addendum: In the course of Googling I came across some of his writings promoting "alien" crapola, just like Steele.

Disinfo disseminators, both of 'em.

samhara ago

My motto is : "No need to trust anyone ever." That is what I learned by studying books on Security Issues.

I use Dr. P. as a source since he was obviously sent out to deliver a message from the people in the bowels of the Deep State, those that want, at least some of it over. - or anyway the best that can be done:

Aphorism from the East : "The suffering that is to come, can and should be avoided. "

And they are watching us. [i.s. citizen investigators] It was meant to give us strengh, since it is not easy, as you all know.

The second source I named, Dr Morgan Reynolds, specifically wrote , 10 years ago now [ Your time-scale is a bit compressed , in my view, since Trump has only been Commander and Chief for one week past one month ] [see excerpt below]

https://nomoregames.net/2006/04/09/the-risk-of-winning-what-happens-once-the-911-sewer-opens-wide/

what do you do with a family dog who kills a family member? The dog was acquired to protect the family and instead it kills someone it was supposed to protect. The services of such a dog would no longer be required, to put it as gently as possible. That’s the situation we have with the DoD, NSA, CIA, FBI and a murderous array of government agencies, including the 9/11 Commission. The 9/11 Commission members and staff director Philip D. Zelikow are accessories after the fact, a felony crime. Selected elements of many organizations lied and murdered thousands of innocent Americans. Every member of the military swears an oath to defend and protect the Constitution, against enemies “both foreign and domestic.” Pretending that nothing happened after the family pet murdered a family member would be madness, intolerable, a “head-in-the-sand” absurdity, not to mention a constant menace for everybody in the dog’s ambit. That’s our predicament today: the overt and covert types hired to protect us turned and killed family members and remain on the loose and in power. They must be taken down. Or is this too hard to understand? Third, insiders are on the verge of going public. 9/11 was so “over the top,” so murderous, and the next event will be even bigger, that patriotism and conscience are working overtime among insiders to restore a semblance of sanity to our nation. In a hub-and-spoke conspiracy this large, most participants did not know in advance the scope of the planned “terrorist” event. On hindsight, some of the participants are appalled at what they participated in. They are going to spill the beans. Furthermore, virtually everyone across the world inside intelligence services, the military, airline pilots and other technical experts know full well that the U.S. government and selected outsiders did 9/11, not nineteen incompetent Arabs at the behest of a couple of cave dwellers in Afghanistan. Upshot? The dam is going to break, and probably sooner rather than later.

Reynolds is one of the best minds on the 9/11 puzzle.

Here is a response, over 10 years later, Sept. 11th 2016, after no visible movement toward any rectification / justice:

Unwarranted optimism. Of course we want justice. But just think of the magnitude of the conspiracy and the monumentally advanced science involved to pull it off, and even the best minds in the world really have no concrete idea how it was done. This rogue group – military/intelligence? – just has to wait until we’re just a bit closer to uncovering the game, and they’ll strike again, and get away with it. But maybe incrementally worse. There are billions of us, few of them – but they rule just the same. Martin Luther King almost took the government down. Even a trial bringing out evidence of the FBI and Memphis police department conspiracy in his killing caused not a ripple. I’m just stating the reality of it as I see it. Is it possible humanity has come to a crossroads where justice is no longer attainable?

"This rogue group – military/intelligence? – just has to wait until we’re just a bit closer to uncovering the game, and they’ll strike again, and get away with it. But maybe incrementally worse"

This is exactly what Dr . P . said, to paraphrase, ~"They had to stop it since something was coming toward us fast, down the road." We can't even see how close it is. ?

It's likely that without the context of the work and research I have myself done, most people would miss it, would miss what I'm trying to write? All my work of 8 years got vandalized on Dec. 10 2016 . And a threat letter was sent in Feb.

You might miss it if you fail to recognize what was really 9/11 and that the "War on Terror" is fake / manufactured.

Maybe , Maybe not. The Pizzagate Group seem quick.

**I understand and sympathize with the revulsion against False Hope. And of being angry and bored with the role doled out to us of the stupid sheep, - so easily trick , misled and then then laughed at right in our ignorant faces, hoaxed and tricked by these sores filled with pus. They need to be cauterized with a hot iron, indeed. **

But to be an investigator you must be brave, ready to be proved wrong - that's what will give you the open mind.

The shills sure do want to gaslight you to feel wrong all the time They hold up the fun house mirror to make you take a false impression of yourself..

Maybe I felt / thought / intuited like this :

What is Steve P. misdirecting me toward? He's saying all the Hoopla is not going to unseat Trump, that it's not Trump himself but it is all about who Trump has protection from, on the inside.. - who certainly will remain, but can be intuited to exist by the logic shadows / cues / hints which all fit together ?! And are consonant.

Unlike the legends created by the shitty script writers, as we are fed and as we are supposed to believe.

What Steve P . said just fits with what Morgan Reynolds wrote 10 years ago [yes, we've been waiting our whole life for this? Or at least since 9/11 was uncovered as a massive fraud - since the JFK? if you are old enough]