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crazimal ago

TLDR: Thanks for re-posting this information, all of which has been mentioned before, but try to be more attentive to logic and use of language. You seem to be implying things here that evidence does not support, while acting like strong wording makes the case. It is a real scandal, but jumping to conclusions and mischaracterizing facts doesn't help to actually get anything done. Please do share your hypotheses, but identify them as such, so voat doesn't look like a haven for doofuses.

Nice tying together of these existing threads and thoughts, but some questions:

What does it mean to you that Puello had "foreknowledge?" To me, it merely shows that Puello knew the relationship between NPH and FOO/NPFS at the time of the interview.

As a lawyer, wouldn't it be his job to know this?

Wouldn't he naturally tend to describe the organization, in English, in the US, to English-speaking US persons, by its US name, as a US legal entity?

Additionally, wouldn't Laura Silsby, a US person involved in Haiti charities, be likely to know of the NPH/FOO/NPFS relationship as a matter of course?

The suspicious thing is Clinton bailing Silsby out when she got caught smuggling children, not the fact she knew the names of the orphanages. I am not trying to "debunk" anything or make excuses for those implicated in the scandal, just pointing out that this information is not suspicious. Try not to be offended.

It makes the post look weak if people get the impression you are trying to imply something sinister, in the fact that the people being interviewed, had any knowledge of what they were being interviewed about. Of course they had some knowledge, ergo the interview.

Or did you mean to imply something else entirely by "foreknowledge of the orphanage?"

If so, what?

Secondly, about the Conaways. So Mary Sue is a spook with diplomatic cover as a consular official. OK.

That is the case in all consulates and embassies, the people there handling visas are wired into the intel world of the country they represent. Maybe her husband is also in intel, with cover only as her husband, or charity guy or something. In any case, the thing about the secret task force (Vern and Thomas Conaway, Mary Sue's family ) kinda seems like a stretch - the article you link basically describes their "mission profile" as transporting medical supplies, and says the son has "special needs" himself. But ok, maybe they are "special" intelligence assets. Why not?

And is it ironic Conaway formerly held a DOS position on abduction? Circular logic. Actually, this is one of the reasons, aside from having interacted with Silsby, that you are looking at her in the first place, so no, it's not ironic. Even fits in with her entire career history.

"Why does an orphanage employ an undercover CIA agent?"

Well, taking that at face value, if the agent is undercover, the orphanage WOULD HAVE NO FECKING IDEA they were a CIA agent. That is the point of there even being such a thing as an undercover agent!

But back it up a minute: What orphanage employed Conaway? I thought she was employed by DOS (and purportedly CIA) as a consular official. We merely know via a blog posting that the Conaways have visited NPFS. Visited does not equal employed by.

Sorry if this doesn't sound supportive, but your post is full of jumps to conclusions and misleading language.

And by the way I am not downvoting, just giving a little advice ;)

bumbleberries ago

What does it mean to you that Puello had "foreknowledge?" To me, it merely shows that Puello knew the relationship between NPH and FOO/NPFS at the time of the interview.

This was to address the people who argue that Puello pulled the name out of his ass.

NPH is known as NPFS, or Nos Petits Freres et Soeurs in Haiti. The staff call it that too, and the sign outside the collapsed building shows that too. NPH/NPFS translates to "Our Little Brothers and Sisters" in English, and not "Friends of the Orphans". Therefore, reasonable to assume that Puello was indeed informed of this orphanage, either from Laura Silsby or his own trafficking connections.

But back it up a minute: What orphanage employed Conaway? I thought she was employed by DOS (and purportedly CIA) as a consular official. We merely know via a blog posting that the Conaways have visited NPFS. Visited does not equal employed by.

Thomas and Vern Secret NPH task force for special operations. From its official website. 'Nuff said.