I watched "The Skulls" recently - supposedly based in the Skull & Bones club. They had the word ~WAR~ prominently on the wall of the ritual room. And there was some mention that there was an obligation to promote and cause war.

If it matters, I can perhaps find where it is mentioned in the film.

Here's another weird one about somebody named Sam's Mom being the founder of another group. And what were they sending to her?

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22892

I'm afraid it is you who misunderstand. Statements like yours and Crowley's can be taken exactly as I stated and they frequently are. Which is why what he practiced was pure evil and why he himself did many evil things. The belief in personal truth (see your point A.) over a larger truth is at the heart of all of this darkness.

The rest of the points I summed up neatly in the prior post. These folks could easily say these kids true purpose is to be sacrificed. I'm sorry, that's just the way this stuff is written. There is no clear right and wrong delineated.

lol you misunderstand occultism, although i don't know what drives them

So, you don't know what drives them? But you're confident enough to "lol" at someone else's theory?

Gardiner was a freemason. His version of Wicca is an attempt to subvert Wicca and bring it into freemason thinking. They do this shit all the time, i.e. Judaism with Kaballah, etc.

Yeah the 25 indicatea a group of 25 "Mary followers" Something is going on in Truckee, or wherever 'truckee' is refering to.

I have not watched Rosemary's baby - I'm a ninny when it comes to spooky movies. So I just read a synopsis. Then I googled Dubrovnik pedophile because when the satanic couple go on a European "vacation" the man says Dubrovnik is his favorite. In the google search an article about woody Allen being a paedophile came up. Mia farrow, the actress that plays rosemary, says he raped their 7 year old daughter. She still claims this and tweeted about it during a golden globe tribute to him by Diane Keaton. Just thought it was an interesting parallel http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2538444/Ronan-Farrow-slams-father-Woody-Allens-Golden-Globes-honour-Twitter-mother-Mia-decides-switch-off.html

I have thousands of hours of research on esoterics. I have read a few dozen books and have spent countless hours on the internet researching. The occult is not some big secret like it use to be. If you want to know about it there is more text available today then at any point in history. In fact it is amazing how much esoteric knowledge is out there but its still being kept under wraps. I belong to a group on facebook that is 10 million strong. Bout 40/60 left handers right handers. I have read Aleister Crowleys The Book of the Law and very well understand Thelema.

There is also a middle path for western Buddhists. IMO it is a path with very little reward. It involves being neither selfless or selfish. More about avoiding pleasure/pain/anything. Kind of a numb path imo. I would rather feel good helping others then spend my days like a wall flower.

SO i guess I will ask you? How do you know what they believe how many hours have you researched the occult? Aren't you the one assuming that no one knows what they do because they are secret? Even though most of them allow open membership. But fuck signing my life away to some society.

And on the left hand right hand Wasn't really going to mention the magic part as most don't really believe in that shit haha. But my definition of left hand right hand is correct if you throw magic into there. Do I practice magic? Yes but it is just science has nothing to with magic. This is why you guys don't believe in it. The science of how all this shit works is a bit hard to wrap your head around. But we all practice magic daily. It is your very nature. When you recognize what is beneficial and what isn't life can be very enjoyable/energized.

All Christians practice "magic." Every-time they put there hands together to pray they don't even realize what they are doing haha. When they sing and spread joy at church they don't even realize they're getting rewarded for it. The religions all teach "magic"(science) but they don't tell you why to do it or how it works.

It is pretty much the best kept secret on the planet that Religion is the oldest Science.

Perhaps that is what it is supposed to be, but in practice "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" becomes an excuse to run over anybody in the way of what is desired. Crowley himself was certainly no paragon of restraint.

I have thought this as well, Planned Parenthood is sacrifice factory line

its why the Dems like to keep broken families in the ghetto - higher abortion rates, kids taken by CPS etc

This stuff goes way back and has, in a few ways, perpetuated the cultivation of Pizzagate. It would be harder to believe the other way around, such as, discovering Pizzagate and blaming it on some kind of weird Satanism 'thing'. That 'thing' is a part of this. Denying it could be very naive and short-sighted. The more you research the occult, the more you find sprinkled all over this like extra pepperoni. These people aren't acting. They really believe it, and that is key to understanding the motives and belief system. It's in their art. It's in their communities. And it's in their damn food... :(

But Crowley explicitly states you can do what you will. Some people may believe they deserve to rape and murder children and that the children's higher purpose is for their indulgence. The problem with the statements these groups make is they can always be taken to very bad extremes. I realize he sugar coats the saying but suggesting you do your acts as you will with love.. but a murderer can easily argue he was acting in love and he may even feel amazing while committing the act (in fact probably does knowing what we know about those who kill repeatedly).

He is not wrong. Freemasons, Skull and Crossbones ect there are a ton of secret societies. What do you think they do? Haven't you ever noticed how everyone in charge of the world believes in religion and belongs to one these groups?

They believe they can become gods/reach nirvana on earth. If they follow the left handed path it means do anything necessary to gain power; kill(sacrifice), steal, cheat and lie. If they follow the right handed path(no one at the top does.) then they believe in being completely selfless as a means of reaching nirvana. The right handed path also believes heavily in martyrdom. I follow the right hand path but I do not belong to any secret societies.

One of the goals of these societies is to keep there organizations secret. This is why you question the lengths they go to. Here is a decent video to watch that will show you how wide spread it really is.

I have been wondering for over a month now, if right in front of our eyes is a list of 25 "close people" involved in "the circle" are who we need to be digging into further. they are all listed out in that email about Mary getting hit by the car.....

I actually used to brush off the agenda of NWO, not because it isn't possible but it was just too pointed and too big. But I see more and more evidence of it now, and I wanted to bring up look at the newest issue of National Geographic. I know NG is an old fogey publication, but think of the veritas it carries. Their ENTIRE ISSUE this month is devoted to exploring the various terms of gender identity and sexual orientation. Down to a dictionary like page so everyone can learn all the terms. What in hell does that have to do with geography at all, or wildlife? so I wanted to mention that.

I agree with the runaway ego thing but def don't agree that MK Ultra is "overdone" if anything it is not discussed enough, and Alefantis is connected to it in my opinion. Because of this https://www.discogs.com/artist/5471509-James-Alefantis and that it is pretty clear if you've ever talked to anyone who has survived MK Ultra style programming (I have) that the Heavy Breathing videos/"music" is MK Ultra type brain entraining programming. Alefantis is the producer of a unit of CIA MK Ultra type materials. They make the "kid party" blackmail acts happen through brain entraining and mind control if that is necessary. The drugs employed help a lot to create an alternate world where the unthinkable becomes real. How much Satanism is in your pedo activity? How much pedo activity is in your Satanism - there are different tastes and styles and relationships, and the culture that Alefantis oversaw catered "so to speak" to everyone, the willing and the unwilling.

Alefantis himself could be a tool, egoist that he is, he could possibly have alters even though he clearly is a handler at least for Amanda Kleinman, the "band" members and others.

Disclaimer: This is all alleged and this is all my own opinion and theorizing based on the artifacts available online and elsewhere about MK Ultra,, Alefantis and the pizzagate investigation.

I haven't seen these names mentioned so far, so forgive me if this is a repeat, but there are two very well versed men in the conspiracy/truth movement who have a great deal of knowledge about these secret societies and their beliefs and practices. Well, there's a lot more than two, but... One is Mark Passio, who is a former Satanic priest. The other is Michael Tsarion. However you may feel about them PERSONALLY - they can both talk until the cows come home and get really passionate about it - they both have a wealth of information that is very well sourced. Michael recently addressed the Pizzagate investigation on his Unslaved podcast. Of course they think we're all retards for being surprised by any of this because it has been going on for ages, BUT, they really do have a lot to offer in regards to the cult/society aspect, the psychology of it and who is behind it. It won't really help us with a factual investigation, but if you have an interest in the history of it, I've found them both to be good sources. I listen while I'm working and take notes for further research. I know this forum is dedicated to collecting factual information...but it's good to get a well-rounded in-depth schooling on the deeper issues as well. And I can't stress this enough...the more we get into this, the more we should be protecting ourselves, not just our personal information. We're wading in some seriously deep, foul waters here, the kind of stuff that can mess with your head and taint your soul.

Maybe they are studying the oldest books of witchcraft, which are in French or Old French. It WOULD require study.

directed by the Polish director Roman Polanski

Reading the the synopsis of the film, it lines up awfully well to the whole "hiding in plain sight" idea that is rampant in Hollywood.

I had the same position and replied to a post yesterday of George Webb's recent vid that told people that the ritualistic idea shouldn't be the focus. I disagree with George and think it's a part of the investigation for the same reasons as you. The article ìs in the deleted thread section.

I questioned if it's true that CIA FBI system refuses to acknowledge ritual or if that's rumor, cuz although I like Georges Braverman series he's sounding CIA.

Why?

My theory is that it's more acceptable for the public to believe political elite are child trafficking than to believe their occult ritualists using children as part of their ceremony. What would the red states think? Church and state has never been separate except for the illusion of separation and that church has been christian. Hillary alluded to her christian roots in the pre-election roast dinner to keep up the public delusion.

The founding fathers well concealed their masonry allegiance. There are Underground sects of Bohemian grove, founding father masonry, thelema, and whatever coven Hillary belongs to, along with their modern off-shoots. I can't copy that link article on my phone but it was on this forum the other day describing Bills admittance that Hillary went to Cali for her witch group. Obama is whatever that was that came out of Rev Jeremiah Wright in chicago, and hybrid muslim from his youth incorporated into whitehouse daily schedules of allah worship. My opinion was that Obama was groomed and Rev Wright was the pre-election proof of christianity, but it was a cover to say he was christian coming out of rev wrights chicago style system as an appeal to the red state vote. Nobody bothers to check his cover. But he knows enough to do a thelema favor for somebody. His mother-in-law is santeria and he's got to know what that's all about.

It seems like a buffet.

Adding: I interpret distinctions between their close friends and their reading group and followers group. Books and prose had questionable pedo stuff and it makes me wonder if thats their code for ritual group. Of course they could read up on ritual belief information as part of the book group and rituals group as a double entendre - double meaning.

Mary is John Podesta's wife apparently.

I don't think so, we've read about Bohemian Grove, the Franklin Scandal, MKUltra, as well as the references to paganism in these peoples emails. Not to mention the influence of groups like Skull and Bones, who use pagan/satanic rituals often.

The whole occult background and the spawn of the lies and pedophilia, sacrificial killings, desire for war, list goes on. Just because we don't believe in it, doesn't mean that THEY don't. They certainly do-- and they do it to serve themselves and their God. This is very clear in their actions and explains the evil group-think.

Is this why Podesta's circle of friends often send him pictures of their infant children and grandchildren, with details of their weight, height and names? For Podesta and his mother to judge and see if maybe their child might possibly be the Chosen One? The next 'Rosemary's Baby'?

The "old" probably relied on homosexual acts, adultery, maybe a murder or hit here and there, and maybe a more rare occurance of child sacrifice. As homosexuality normalized in a liberal democratic milleau, not only did the acts have to become more and more underage but the lust for power and the MK Ultra style music, art and drugs led to an increasingly depraved efflourescence of "the scene" folding in the business aspects of human trafficking of slaves and organs, children for young blood, and for pedo acts for blackmail and orgies of decapitation oriented ritual sacrifice for an occult subculture flourishing and drunk on its own power and invincibility. Their art really does reflect their lives.

Even though we say and know "this kind of thing" has been going on forever, I really do think that what we are witnessing is the spillover evidence of an "untouchable" subculture that started to step almost "out of the closet" near the circles of power in a way unprecedented in modern times and certainly in America. The American taste for showing off, for fame and the rise of social media (must take a picture of everything and share it, must let people know who I rub shoulders with) ran smack into the elite control mechanisms of old, creating a new and to old European eyes probably Vulgar Display of what had been kept properly secretive for centuries. And if they were doing it at the top, everyone who was a social climber or wanted to be near the top did it too. Certainly any politician that wanted any real power had to do it, probably even asked to be compromised so they could get on with their agenda, whether they had a taste for it or not. Thus we have CPP right in the middle of it all from 2006 - 2016, with James Alefantis as the alleged terrifying intimidation and blackmail man and Impressario of Fear running the hub cover operations which did the gruntwork of processing and laundering through physical premises and chains of ownership as well as a gay information network, making him The Pizza Palace Power Broker, Fixer, and Favor Maker, 49th power of DC, tieing it all together. His Achille's heel though is his arrogance - Majestic Ape - and arrogance leads to a belief in one's own godhead. Inevitably, that gets sloppy.

NO NOT a "Psych-Op" see My comment on Robert Steele.. He opined it's Based in Wisconsin..

Search Tikkun in the emails! Kabbalah is RAMPANT in Podesta's life

Our quest for certainty can lead us to false either/or propositions. We should appreciate the diversity of the paedo community. Some are old-school ultra elite initiation and re-commitment rite perps, victims, and victims turned perps. Then you have the more modern CIA brownstone op, perps, victims, and victims turned perps, and then you have 2nd, 3rd generation perps, victims, and victims turned perps who continue to 'practice' outside of - or with only remnant connections to- the official fold. These are the more visible ones as they do not have the resources or backing to avoid detection or justice

edit p.s. good job, you've convinced me. I was on the fence about whether Podesta's spirit cooking was just his interest in freaky artists, or whether it was genuine occult practice. I think we can safely deduce genuine occult practice in light of this info

Soros, Madeline Mccann Coloboma Defect & StemCell Harvest

To begin, we are discussing the genetic anomaly which occurs both in the eye of George Soros, Madeline Mccann and members of the Rothschild family. One of the moderators of this forum has correctly pointed out the rarity of this condition here:

If 1 or 2% have it, then this could easily be coincidence. However, it is MUCH more rare than that. This is an extremely unlikely coincidence (although we must acknowledge there's still a possibility it's a coincidence). https://nei.nih.gov/health/coloboma/coloboma

estimates range from 0.5 to 2.2 cases per 10,000 births That's .005% to .022% quote @Millennial_Falcon OK, So the genetics of the condition are thus.... The PAX6 transcription factor within our DNA is responsible for the congenital mutation within the Iris we see on the aforementioned, for the PAX6 transcription factor plays a major role in the development of our eyes, brains, in particular our olfactory (sense of smell). Many of you will be aware our olfactory is responsible for some of our oldest and deepest memories. This is because the olfactory, unlike the functions of the other senses, is processed uniquely through more extensive channels of the brain.

It should also be noted, the olfactory bulb is responsible for the production of stemcells.

That's right, adult neurogensis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK55966/

That is to say, stemcells within the adult brain. I would hazard such a discovery, as it is known can regenerate organ tissue, would be a fundamental element to human cloning.

Now how does this relate to pizzagate?

~~~ "In modern times, it has been suggested that the mark in Sigurd's eye was a result of a congenital mutation of the PAX6 gene."

~~~Well if we consider the programs of the Nazis, to create a super race, we might consider which particular genetics might be considered the holy grail for eugenicists. This eye condition is found in the art of many of the alleged perpetrators of pizzagate. discussed here https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5gde85/maddie_mccann_and_the_baby_in_james_alefantis/

Why do you we suppose that alleged occultists would have such a strong desire to show this condition symbolically.

"Sigurdr had a defect in his eye, that many believed to be an image of an Ouroboros, more specifically, the Ouroboros Jormundgandr."

"In Norse mythology, Ragnarök is a series of future events, including a great battle, foretold to ultimately result in the death of a number of major figures (including the gods Odin, Thor, Týr, Freyr, Heimdallr, and Loki), the occurrence of various natural disasters, and the subsequent submersion of the world in water. Afterward, the world will resurface anew and fertile, the surviving and returning gods will meet, and the world will be repopulated by two human survivors." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rmungandr

https://s23.postimg.org/ny0tah8jf/Screen_Shot_2017_01_14_at_22_09_27.pngPNG

Perhaps they are after very particular stemcells, the ones from this particular lineage, which they presume to contain a very special kind of DNA.

Ritual Abuse/ MKULTRA is real.

No the only reason for the abuse is for rituals these fuckers are clinging on to the hope that their false god will save them from the grave. Look up Alister Crowley he said you used ot have to terrify the vicitm before consuming their blood for the androchomos

Millennial_Falcon is editing peoples posts CALL HIM SPEZ DONT TRUST HIM