I am reposting this submission from a month ago because it bears revisiting due to the pushback against the occult elements being "real" in the pizzagate narrative, as we have seen lately on these boards. This was originally posted to sift through some of Podesta's close relationships, starting with the strange remark made by his brother Tony at his mother's passing and leading to a core group of 25 possible ritual occultists, with Tamara Luzatto as a central figure.
OP:
The close reading of a string of Podesta emails seems to indicate that there may be a strong connection to Crowley/Gardnarian witchcraft traditions within Podesta's close circles. In this pizzagate investigation, examining the lingo and possible code language of the more minor players around Podesta, Alefantis and others constitute much of the circumstantial "orgy of evidence" pointing at a Satanist child trafficking subculture that was flourishing in DC for at least the last 10 years - from guys who built child size coffins for a hobby and dug underground tunnels at night, to moms who made sure kids were in the pool to entertain adult male dinner guests, "spirit oooking" dinners at private homes, and so on.
Powerful DC operator Tony Podesta raised some eyebrows with this strangely specific comment about his and John's mother Mary when she died https://archive.is/ztlnH comment "She had two sons, but she adopted another 25 people during the time she came to Washington, said her older son, Tony Podesta, a Washington public affairs strategist." The usual figure of speech would be more like, "She had two sons, but adopted a whole lot of our friends over the years."
The article adds, re: mother Mary Podesta- "So its no surprise that once Mrs. Podesta moved to Washington, D.C., to be closer to her sons, she took to cooking at political fund-raisers. (any spirit cooking?) What is surprising is how she became a celebrity of sorts...Mrs. Podesta, known to many of the nations Democratic elite as Mama Podesta, died Friday in Washington from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. She was 88...She had two lives. She was a wife and mother in Chicago, but then..." etc...
Who were the 25 mother Mary Podesta "adopted"? Was it a group of devoted Satanists that she assumed a leadership role over as an elder female High Priestess? Let's look -
At about 4:55 in this video you are viewing a Podesta wikileaks email originally written by Tamara Luzzato, the DC lobbyist and the mom who assured Podesta that for a dinner party "the kids will be in that pool" when he visited. Here, just after wife Mary Podesta is involved in a car accident in May of 2010, Luzatto offers that since she is "...hearing from book people galore, I thought I'd better send this out. At your and Mary's service to guide a circle of 25 or so totally devoted fellow readers, but also friends, and again, anything else I can do to just keep people informed. I hope I worded this suitably or aptly or whatever." Here Tamara is afraid to misstep and so hopes she speaks carefully enough - why? And here is a specific reference to 25 - the 25 that Mother Podesta "adopted" perhaps? Finally she offers "pain for her pain" which isn't the most common way to say Get Well Soon, but makes a bit more sense in light of our new understanding of "spirit cooking" circles. Marina Abramovic's theatrical blood ritual performance art uses similar lingo.
Later in the video we see an email (5:56)Luzzato writes to John Podesta about the accident of "OUR Mary" - Mary Podesta who is in "our own circle", and who drives her to their "book group" of "devoted readers". She writes that she is at Podesta's service "to guide the circle of 25" This is likely the string of about 25 names (26 plus Luzzatos email) that is also shown.
She informs the group (4:35) that in her talks with Mary who drove her to the "book group", Mary declared her "love for her family, Truckee, AND our own circle - we really did talk about all that, SO I will refrain from saying what I REALLY think about a vehicle hitting her or why this all happened to her." Since they REALLY did talk about that, does that mean that the 25 the email went out to can be assured that Mary's devotion to the group is not in question... The whole train of thought and speech is decidedly odd. Truckee is a rural town where there seems to be a retreat.
Earier in the video (2:34) Luzzato writes to Podesta - "I will try to keep sending word, or find a way that you get word, and when we can all do something to help. I and our other Mary Followers will round up ways to truly help" Sorry, this just isn't your usual book club or bible study group.
Thelema Favor email - (2:09 same video Is a forwarded email from wife Mary to John with the subject line "Thelema favor", a hard to explain away reference to Aleister Crowley's (self-proclaimed Beast) cult religion of ritual Satanist worship called Thelema. At the top of this email, it is clear that Podesta has recently changed his email so the writer, another "John" goes through Podesta's mother Mary to reach him. This favor is no small thing - a meeting with the US President for the mother of a friend's family doctor who is in "Love" with Obama. Really? Of course Washington runs on favors, and a "Thelema favor" must be a special one.
Do these emails help us reconstruct the barely suppressed lingo of a cult group of about 25 or so close knit people who meet regularly but not in a way that can be openly discussed? This is a group that you have to worry about how you are "aptly" phrasing your words, in fact.
Now here's where it gets a bit weirder. From "Spellbound: Women and Witchcraft in America, pg. 255) https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=ZVd7AAAAQBAJ&pg=PA255&lpg=PA255&dq=aleister+crowley,+25,+coven&source=bl&ots=72M34_V_Ny&sig=viPE4iW62GxHM_4qh8Se0wFEPfc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjxm9mM8v7QAhWMlZQKHcUwAtEQ6AEIGTAA#v=onepage&q=aleister%20crowley%2C%2025%2C%20coven&f=false Gerald Gardiner was an admirer of Crowley, and elaborated on Crowley's Thelema witchcraft rituals by being "the first to promote and publicize a magical-religious pantheaon headed by The Goddess, an idea which he seems to have gotten in part from the writings of C.G. Leland, a folklorist who described late 19th century witch cults in Italy....Gardner's rituals had a number of Crowley-like aspects: Rituals were to be done in the nude; sexual arousal was a source of magical power , the High Priestess was to perform sex acts with the High Priest (if not the whole of the male congregation); flogging and brandishment of knives (dominoes?) went hand in hand with a mythology of ritual incest (mother/son) and human sacrifice."
It should be pointed out that the Gardinarian tradition has a strong tradition of female leadership (reference same book and page as above), and this string of emails underlines the importance of Podesta's mother, his wife, a female doctor's elder mother, and the central role Tamara Luzzato plays within this "book circle". The fact that many of these women come from Italian heritage is also interesting, considering the Gardnarian connection to Goddess oriented witchcraft from Italy as recently as a century ago.
Final thought - Politics and Prose comes to mind when discussing a "book circle" that would be right on ground zero of the connected compounds.
I could use assistance finding the original emails in wikileaks - I will archive and update this post.
view the rest of the comments →
hanknut42 ago
No the only reason for the abuse is for rituals these fuckers are clinging on to the hope that their false god will save them from the grave. Look up Alister Crowley he said you used ot have to terrify the vicitm before consuming their blood for the androchomos
Millennial_Falcon is editing peoples posts CALL HIM SPEZ DONT TRUST HIM
VieBleu ago
Yes. The occult aspects of pizzagate are being pushed back against and called "just a psychological operation" and "not real" for those who may not have noticed.
ThighHighSwampBoots ago
I used to laugh at/feel sorry for satanists. I thought they were a bunch of losers who listened to German death metal, dressed like creeps for attention, etc. Then I moved to an American city with lots of satanism. I quit laughing fairly soon. I hate to say it, but their magick works. The opposite, our prayers to God and Jesus work, and bring peace of mind. But there is no peace of mind in any of the forms of dark work. No rest for the wicked is true. For those who don't see, watch the Lars von Trier films. He thinks Satan is the God of Earth. The one with Willem Dafoe, the couple whose son fell off the balcony. The end of the world one. I'm terrible with titles. Lars was an alcoholic. He quit, and couldn't create, so went back to it. He made Nymphomaniac. People underestimate the role alcohol plays in evil doers deeds. Both Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer got very drunk to do their murders.
ALDO_NOVA ago
the Willem Dafoe movie was ANTI-CHRIST
VieBleu ago
There is magic without it being Satanist. Satanists are the flip side of Christianity. Nature magic is not Satanic, but is occult because the church forced everything not Christian to be "hidden".
It ALL depends on intent. If you are grabbing for power and materialism, and will hurt others to get what you want no matter whether a Christian, Satanist, New Ager or Hindu or Bhuddist, etc then you are empty inside with a voracious need to parasite on others. There are people that can wear all black, and listen to heavy metal music, that can be much better people in spirit and heart than the most celebrated and closeted pedophile Christian priest.
The DC Satanist/occultists were power mad and didn't care who or what they hurt to get what they wanted. This is evil, and you can do the same thing and call yourself a Taoist Buddist or a Fundamental Christian.
pizzaequalspedo ago
I think ALL false religions were created by fallen angels with the intent to take humans away from the one true God, YHWH (God of the Bible).
The other religions and occult practices all accomplish the same goal, to deceive us from the one true God.
Just my two cents...
And yes of course Christians can be and do evil as well.
VieBleu ago
We have formed an alliance across religions and atheism to fight this common enemy which is heinous to all. Human young are to be protected, valued, and nourished.
ThighHighSwampBoots ago
Gee, it's too bad you hate Christians so much. It really interferes with your extensive intelligence. I wrote "dark practices" or dark something, because I didn't want to limit to Satanism. As for people's clothes and music, again, you would pass me in the street and have a different idea. Well, you vastly underestimate me, but that also can serve a purpose. Mind how you go lol.
VieBleu ago
I promise I don't hate Christians at all. But there is a lot of lumping in alternative folks with Satanists, especially it happened with Ichiban and a host of asian christians that came to this website with the Chinese researcher. They have an attitude that anything that isn't strictly Christian is specifically "Satan worshipping". Chinese Christians were proselytized by missionaries so they tend to be a little more fundy in some ways, but "blasphemous" in others for example being born of the Virgin Mary means Jesus was born in September in the sign of Virgo. They are called Followers of Jesus and their churches are a really big and growing phenomenon in China, and tolerated by the state.
This is one of the things I enjoy about researching this horibble topic - I really do learn so much about topics I've never even considered before.
If I came off as a hater of any kind that is not my intention. I don't like extremist generalizations about religion or spiritual practice about any group, Christians, Atheists, or anything in between. And by and large yes the people who think they gain power from black magic or Satanism pretty much have a bad intent. Ive just known too many heavy metal people that do it all for fashion and don't even think birthday wishes over a candle on a cake can come true.
ThighHighSwampBoots ago
I really was talking about 3 neighbors, nice young (I assumed Satanist because of a nearby bookstore they loved) chaps, that I knew when I first moved to that city. They liked German death metal. That was before I knew ANYTHING. Yes, I can't count how many people I've dated into metal. "It's always the quiet ones"-i say that as the cliche for laughs. No harm done. Nobody's more surprised than me that I turned out Catholic.
VieBleu ago
Great name btw - wade in, in style.
ThighHighSwampBoots ago
Thanks!