The accusation of lying killer to Hillary could be dirived multiple ways.

Just the property owner, yes.

Get this fucking disinfo shit off of voat ASAP please. Are any of you not looking at all the fucking likes it has. It has 550 fucking likes. The average amount of like a post gets is 30-50. This is obviously a shitty half-baked story. Makes it seem like Voat is not trustworthy anymore.

this i a great connection of dots ty so much

Aside contexts:

1. Podesta riding a bus was a big PR stunt ( dates?)

2. DC homicides so high that "ski masks" to be outlaw or ones wearing, arrested. (Majestic).

3. Majestic loves Ohio, Arizona ever band visit (blog?) Ohio man kidnapped three girls for years bass player/music connection?

4. So many unsolved homicides, yet Comet gets fast cop help, whines, all attn not kids in pics cps welfare check. Some advocates ag unsolved homicides keep try to get heard (&fam members). They must be pissed Comet all attn and not mass homicides in DC).

5. Finders van type? Media, via change story. Let them.off with even kids conditions horrid, animal sacrifice, more. ( Where are animal RTS activists?)

6. Missing/ murdered infants, kids, teens, trannies, etc? DC cop website even lists tranny murders as a designated section. "See something say something." Oh really. Callers to 911 etc, intimidated has been an issue (news).

7. Dr Phil, troubled teens, follow-up? Where they all go? Head CA cps on his show alot. Book, Life code, warns evil. Legit or bold in face mock?

8. Some kids/teens must have escaped? Craigslist ad to find if safe even do? Any ever post for help in USa to abroad as more have cell phone/web access ?

9. Trannies, others that enter Comet or elsewhere that into queer but not pedo? Murders?

10. Construction workers/maids/event staff? Yet, security guard in Hollywood is on Instagram as satanist #burnthebodies as is NYC cops mom commenting on human/animal parts for sale. Why animal/human parts in dif form for sale, burnt (#burnthebodiessavetheskulls), dig up #catatombs allowed and Etsy? That's dang top illegal. Some morticians follow and comments too.

11. All this part reason behind Trump wall? Rich Bozeman on Instagram, friends with Abrombi hold sign immigrants as at Mexico border.

12. Witnesses in Arizona: so many suspicious deaths is this new gov legit in his public statement ts of trafficking and the child organ he firms and heads?

13. Why not hearing attorneys, cps in any stare, psych, counselors, judges, drs, child organizations on this pizza gate, Clinton foundation, overall trafficking? Even list of cps cases with satanic crimes for decades is Major long ass list. Got to be some ethical white collar in these jobs that even adhere to Mandate report, after see the Comet pics.

14. Smoky mountain, satanic caves. Alot of denial and mocking witnesses/victims, where the mocking has to take major hours to type and maintain those blogs. Same as with UK and other cases. From Utube shows and blogs, the ones mocking pedo are often even ones accused or in networks. The amount of TIME to do and keep up the mocking is fanatic. If not true, why the obsessive fanatic focus to exert?

The YouTube ones fall under "entertainment," to stay up; cartoons, switch clips fast, very schizo like. Some followers use pics of Crowley type descendent's. Their comments ts are quite revealing of their inside jokes and linguistics. Alot, also shared a Utube on a rock band of satanic and posted, " this is great, will have to listen more."

Timing of CA warehouse and Tenn fires odd. Dolly comes in to save the day. Warehouses are common for clubs, band practice, more. DollyPark and rich drown stores barely touched. Wildlife affected, not a focus, no animal groups coming in as usually do? Smoky mtns, satanic caves.

1. CNN news today: Orphans part of thousands evacuated from Allepo. How much has supply needs increased over years, as humans/kids at resources. Comet would be a blast in grass, yet disruption would mean alternative backup plan, as the addiction to prey, rape etc does not go away.

Here's what this lady a supposed former cia mind control slave has to say about the vans. http://www.gailallen.com/theo/Secrets-of-the-CIA-Global-Sex-Slave-Industry-by-Dr-Sue-Arrigo.html

That means that their own vehicle license plate numbers are a weak point for them. If the buyers are front organizations for the bosses and the CIA, then those license plates may be “unregistered” — fakes that do not link up to a real name anywhere in the world. But the numbers still help one track the trade, just like the numbers on the rendition planes.

If the van owners are free lance brothel owners — then those vehicle numbers may go to a person who the police might be willing to prosecute in the sex slave business. Like in the drug trade, the police will prosecute the free-lancers to make it look like they are doing their jobs.

The free lancers are often fairly obvious — they are less rich and more varied in appearance both personally and in their vehicles. The rich often buy a vehicle, use it for a few months and then turn around and sell it for another purpose. The VIN numbers could be a problem for them even though the plates are false.

However, almost all of the vehicles that the rich use to transport the sex slaves on land in the US are made at one plant in the US. That plant in in Atlanta, I believe. It is the only plant that make vans with holes in the bottom of an enamel type of floor.

Cattle do not have to be hidden in transport, so this combination of having to be hidden and having to be hosed down and needing some ventilation but good sound-proofing is almost unique in the automotive industry.

Back in the 80s she said the vans were chevy products but I could see them having custom made Mercedes now that we are approaching 2017.

Somehow, and unwillingly, my mind has been working hard to debunk #pizzagate. After weeks lurking here, and initially being convinced of the entire shithole, I had started to reassess my sanity. Raised some serious questions and made myself belief i was trapped in one giant tunnel full of confirmation bias, and cognitive dissonance. This post however brings me back right into the hard and dark reality of pizzagate. It's all real again. Great work!

Oren Aharon Cohen charged with kidnapping says he thought toddler was a ‘midget’ - Tempe, Arizona

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/videos/oren-aharon-cohen-charged-kidnapping-says-he-thought-toddler-was-midget-22195

Wow! its amazing that whenever a case of human trafficking involving children comes up it somehow gets squashed... the power these people have is incredible - they are the law and there is no accountability for their evils!

McCain is as crooked as they come...& he'll sell his Mom, wife, whatever for a few bucks! So, I'm certain he is directly involved. No factual proof, other than I've been around him & he's a POS. I did have a question, though, what's with bringing in the US Attorney of VA? (I know you mentioned it as a red flag above). My question is when child/human trafficking is exposed, is it SOP to bring in US Atty from another state (VA, DC, etc)? Keep up the great work, everyone! This is ABSOLUTELY incredible & has restored my faith that there are good people out there... :-) Thanks!

Why did you bring up the name Jason Derek Brown? Did I miss something in this research? He's not mentioned in any of the articles. I read that he has ties to California, Arizona, and Utah & is wanted for murder. I'm just curious as to how or why Brown (or whatever alias he uses) would be pertinent to this cover-up. Thanks!

This discovery by Leastofthese is just a random connection of dots. Anyone else notice how the OP isn't found commenting more on their own thread? That's cuz this post is stupid bullshit. Ridiculous nonsense. Waste of time.

Bloody good work mate!

upvote!

Excellent post! This intelligence software will help you all search faster: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1492193

After searching all emails received by Luke according to sent date, this email is the one sent the day before the black van pic. He mentions being on the best bus (van?) and asks Podesta (if he's ever tried it). On way to New York. It is literally written the evening before. His next email sent was the picture of black van saying this is the pic. I definitely do not think Podesta has anything to do with this particular van. Nor does Luke. Let's Keep digging guys! Proud of all of us! https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/17570

Congratulations. This is good work.

I think that you made a mistake, in that the vans appear to be different. I'm involved in the film industry, and the first van appears to be different, in that it appears to be taller and longer. That's just my estimation, though.

Has anybody been able to identify the brand of van in the video? My computer is too old, and everything seems blurred out.

The important thing is that the vans don't have to be an exact match. We just have to confirm that they are using the vans for bad purposes.

Mark Cisek owns the property.

11827 S MONTEZUMA CT PHOENIX 85044

CISEK GAIL A CISEK MARTIN J SR GAC TRUST MJ TRUST PYPER MARK B

7/11/2005 4:41:15 PM 20050953504

There is a basketball court in the backyard.

But, I agree it is suspicious.

The tie to the Virginia Atty's office, IMO just screams national interest in this bust

Yepppppp

Titan Transport doesn't manufacture the vans, they lease them and have $2 Million insurance limitt and they do not seem to operate in Arizona.

Still, it would be interesting to know the origin of the van and where it went. I did not notice any DOT numbers, which would allow us to learn more. If it was owned by a company for commercial transport, the numbers should have been visible.

Bill Warner is really good. I've watched that a couple times over the years. I am big on researching history which is hidden or seemingly forbidden.

Yes, sadly, in areas under old school sharia, slavery is still viewed as legitimate.

Imagine if we didn't have the internet

Thank you for this. Was my thinking as well but so grateful for your input and way you presented it. Speak up more!

Interesting. Took a minute to see it. Unless there is some connection to pizza perps, though, I think you may want to rest your mind and chalk it up to confirmation bias.

Excellent work. My jaw dropped as I skimmed it and now going back to explore more fully. Good job and thanks for continuig to edit and amend as you learn more

Great work to all who are working on this investigation. I would comment and upvoat every thread but Boats (on mobile) won't allow me to see who's commenting, leave comments or upvoat. So, just know people are out there reviewing what you've been finding and appreciate all the work you're doing on this.

I went down the rabbit hole a little bit on this when it was breaking news on The Donald and 4chan and what I seen was enough to supply my nightmares forever. The Instagram screenshots, the spirit cooking videos, the comet pizza "concert", all of it. I can't imagine what you've all seen throughout these months that this has gone on for and can't imagine what the NYPD had to review on Anthony Weiner's laptop. You're all doing work I could not do. Again, thank you for bringing this to light so we can make sure these people are caught and so we can take action for protecting our own children against these people.

HUGE! AMAZING WORK!

My reading comprehension is fine. Can someone confirm or deny the Kline lawyer is a connection?

Ok, the only thing I see here that is interesting is the Kline lawyer, if the facts stated above are correct.

This Kline guy really needs more attention, perhaps more than Alefantis and Podesta. His name seems to pop up quite a lot.

#triggered

They are a culture of infiltration and sabotage who are taught and guided by a privatized culture of infiltration and sabotage that originated with the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations.

Bribery/blackmail are the political tool in which to control every government and they fool the world to make it seem like that isn't the case.

There are probably plenty of good people in the CIA, but there is a culture of infiltration that has allowed every agency to be compromised by organized crime.

if no one has asked this yet, who owns the house from that arizona news article? maybe a clue to be had there? follow the money.

Op has been updated as they are not conclusively linked, why you are pushing this so hard rather than checking it out?

OK SO

• Black mercedes sprinter from Royal Traveler is used by Podesta: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/21810
• Black mercedes sprinter NOT FROM Royal traveler were used in Arizona child sex ring: snap from video https://i.sli.mg/BMTZtr.png

No link !

Actually you claimed here the van was made by a pizzagate guy https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1499675/7280785

(((Seligman))) (((Kline))) Lots of human trafficking goes on in kikeland Israel. I want to see the Israel connection to all of this.

How does this shit even get upvoted?

With the recent goings on in AZ with the sheriff rehashing the obama birth certificate fiasco im not surprised we didnt hear about it. How Convenient! These people need to hang or get stuck like a pig!~

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/21810

I have had this theory for a while now that they used sports teams, ballet groups, and other covers as means to avoid suspicion when moving a lot of kids around. How else do you move 30+ kids at a time without raising any red flags? How often is a cop going to even stop a team bus and ID every kid on it? How easy would it be to suppress suspicions even if police did wonder? Given the extent of the pedo-cult networks, I would find it easy for officers to be scoffed at for even wondering if some sports team from some distant place happened to pass through their area was actually something nefarious. Dance teams, ballet, soccer, whatever. I wouldn't be surprised if this is already documented even somewhere. If we are to lock these people out of any positions of power we need to dismantle their fronts, and figure out methods for the future generations to continue to keep them out of power.

I suspect following the treasure(as they see it) is the important approach. I really doubt they have any true loyalty to their "religion", but rather they all see it as a mutual system of both blackmail and "legitimacy" for the things they really enjoy doing. I suspect these rituals even vary quite a bit even with the same participants at different times. Sociopaths consider taboos to be exciting, like everyone does, but they lack any inhibition or remorse to rein in the extremes of their taboos. They still want and need social stimulation like regular folks though. They get lonely, they get bored, and they want very much to be legitimized as much as possible. Any way to rationalize whatever extremes they want to go to. To them this is a big fun club and everyone is in on a fine joke and a good time(except the victims, but they're just commoners anyway). Do any of them really believe the blood of children will give them power? Hard to say, but when you see a lot of people in power doing crazy stuff like this, there's bound to be a few dumb enough or desperate enough to try it. There is a long history of weird occult practices among the rich and wealthy; many of them are nonsensical like Egyptian themed parties with fake prayers to Ra, but there is definitely a history of much darker ritual societies too. The rich don't want to murder people less than the poor do, but the rich at outward appearance are much less homicidal. In systems where money is holy and endless pursuit of power is the normal, it's really not surprising that demented psychopaths would end up running the show. This ritual stuff all reminds me a lot of weird frat party hazing rituals; putting pledges through weird cult rituals to embarrass them and establish a sort of mutual blackmail that is used to establish trust within organizations made up of murderous psychos with no moral standards.

I would really like to know if there is some fraternity connections to all this and if anything in this relates to some goofy attempt to emulate the ancient Greek child sacrifice rituals. Even back then the rich were murdering the kids of the poor for fun and delusion of power. Its a seriously old problem that needs to be ruthlessly purged from our systems and kept out forever.

Springfield is about 20 miles south west of DC. Seems convenient for short trips. There have been multiple children murdered in a near by town, Berryville I think. All little girls, There was 5. When the bodies were found, they had similar markings. Pubic hair shaved, bound, naked, bruises in similar areas. This rash of abductions and murders was in the early 2000. I used to live there, and I remember how frightened parents were. One family had two of there daughters taken at the same time.

Ahwatukee is right by Tempe where Hillary gave a speech the day after this story broke, if the poster has the date right.
If you had seen that van going down I-10 on 11/01/16 you'd have reasonable suspicion that it was secret service or other advance people in it.

Luke Albee that shared a picture of the "Molesta Van" with Podesta: See original wikileaks see : https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/46736

The correct email is : https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/21810

It's like some of you are either stupid or trying to make this investigation sound stupid. There is nothing in your evidence that ties Podesta to this bust. The same kind of van isn't evidence, those vans are extremely common as other posters have pointed out. Yet this ridiculous post gets top spot and the familiar chorus of "OMG YOU'VE CRACKED THE CASE!!!!!!" are here to upvote it there and downvote rightfully critical commentary.

We need tags or flair in this sub so I can tag fuckers like this OP who are too retarded for life.

sister van has a crown

nothing to show it as the same van, yet

Are these vans customized by the same company?

All the articles are gone 🙁

Another piece of the puzzle fits snugly in place. Great work.

Excellent work.

This U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Virginia ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-vas-eastern-district-us-attorneys-reach-transcends-geographic-bounds/2012/12/15/a3f8f992-4625-11e2-9648-a2c323a991d6_story.html?utm_term=.fcdd62ec3ca2

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/neil-h-macbride/human-trafficking-day_b_2459107.html

BTW, Podesta has several emails, some that have no link to open, with Georgetown EDU which is right across the Potomac from Virginia the missing kid capital.

My initial impression is that that looks more like a standard van, not a Sprinter-type van. The word "Explorer" is visible near the back end. I didn't compare closely though.

This deserves scrutiny to be sure.

In that kgun9 article it suggests rentors running a basketball camp also happen to have vanloads of kids moving to and from their upscale suburban house.

Uh, what?

Here's a much better video highlighting the cover up and more details - http://www.12news.com/news/local/valley/diciccio-man-in-ahwatukee-investigated-for-human-smuggling/345749160

Yelp: http://archive.is/dBmMV

Very interesting avatars in the reviews.

For the record, i'm not convinced that there's a direct or indirect connection between that particular van poking out of the garage and anything going on 'pizzagate' related.

i've been digging through the owner of that residence's connections all morning, and nothing even remotely promising turns up...yet.

Repost from free republic http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3505915/posts - there was no explanation offered for the arguments there and none here.

Other than one photo sent to podesta https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/21810, theres no indication that he owns one.

Note: 'WakeUpAndCare' - comments here has also claimed below that Titan Made the vehicles among other things.

The Titan vans are Mercedes sprinters in obsidian black with the customisations done by Premier Sprinter http://archive.is/ZnOiP. The vans in the video are stock sprinters bar one detail the area around the license place appears to not be stock.

Note: how the customization company's only real review id from an assistant manager at tacobell http://archive.is/L4phY

Currently I find 0 link between these stories, though there appears to be some merit to both. This is starting to feel like planted disinfo given the veracity of the comments everyone seems to be jumping the gun here, taking a leap of faith with no info to back it up.

You guys are awesome.... GREAT WORK !!! Thank you.. I will get this out there and direct ppl to this link

Just the black van alone was not enough to convince me, but when you add the human trafficking elements, the suppression of the idea that it was human trafficking, and the last-minute involvement of the US attorney's office from Virginia getting involved...it looks remarkably strange.

Who owns the black van? Who called the neighbor and what did he say to convince him to stop saying human trafficking?

It seems like the OP was claiming the van in use was directly connected to Podesta/Clinton somehow. He called it "Podesta's molesta van." We aren't seeing a connection there, but the AZ trafficking case definitely looks worth looking into. Just the claim that it connects to the Podesta crew appears to have nothing backing it up.

This rabbit hole is getting so deep i think i think i can smell fried rice and hoisin duck. Great work!!

How can I view Luke Albee's shared photo of the "Molesta van?"

Hillay was in Arizona when this incident happened. It was peculiar because she was campaigning in a very red state.

Utterly amazing research.

Her's a good news report on it that talks about how it must be really big to pull in all those agencies and talks about how it's weird that they started backtracking... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDdQiG6TFjQ

Now that I go back and watch it seems like that care is deliberately there to obstruct the DOT markings.

Downvoted it. Big claims, no summary, awful to read and no evidences for the claims. Why is everyone upvoting?

How are the vans a "match"? Just because they're both black and similar-looking? There are thousands of black Mercedes sprinter vans being driven all over the world. Not seeing how the van is a relevant connection to anything. There doesn't seem to be a substantive link to the AZ situation/van to Clinton or Podesta in any way.

The AZ trafficking cover up looks worth getting into, but the Jan Brewer comment and black vans are weak/nonexistent connections IMO. Hillary did plenty of lying and killing from what she did during her tenure as Sec. of State, so how are we connecting Brewer's comment and the AZ tracfficking with Clinton other than the existence of two black mercedes sprinter vans? Am I missing something here?

From what I can tell, Podesta's personal van has not been connected to the situation in AZ in any way....at all. This all smacks of gun-jumping sensationalism without making any substantive links IMO.

I keep thinking I won't have my mind blown day after day, but this one blows my mind. How the hell did y'all make this connection? It's incredible!

Although I think you have some very strong points, the Arizona tie in seems weak. A similar van yes, but without license plates or other identifiers it is too vague. They may be people that are linked in other ways.

Can you be a bit more clear on this link? As far as I see, no Luke Albee appears in the email you suggest nor is there any attachment or link provided to such a picture of a van.

Very good work indeed. Thanks!

Amazing work. Thanks for the credits and following this lead!

Wish they would let the councilman talk more. They cut him off so unnaturally quick. Cops made him walk everything back, unreal and unsurprising...

Wow, no way you could talk me into goin into that van. No way!

http://archive.is/giweH - news story with good images of house https://sli.mg/OTt15b - image of house number.

the address was at one time associated with a business called "executive car leasing" or some variation thereof.

http://archive.is/S40ob

i found it on google maps street view. same place.

no good ties to anything at the moment, and none of the normal corporate websites can verify that that address is associated with anything related to pizzagate - but still dig dig dig.

Go to: https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/secrets-of-the-cias-global-sex-slave-industry-by-dr-sue-arrigo-june-15-2007/ and do a "find on page" search for the word "vehicle." This should take you to the middle of the page. Here you will find extensive and specific info on how vans are used in child trafficking rings.

Outstanding work. This is serious contribution.

So there was a van a the scene of a house in ARIZONA. These black vans are rather common. Most hotels have them. As do many companies.

So all the way in Arizona an inference is drawn because of a van the Podesta clan may own?

I am having trouble seeing the connection here. If the only connection is that there are 2 similar vans, then this is not substantive.

What am I missing?

Is there anything more than they are black vans that we can use to corroborate. Both are very interesting stories unto themselves and I dont want to just jump in and go wow,,, yet

Fantastic information. So following on, I found this article on Jumbo Slice Pizza https://archive.is/9O7vt. Scrolling down the page there is another one about the Graham Hotel which mentions Graham Cupcakes. Notice the symbology on their company designs https://archive.is/p4uOA, https://archive.is/T0W4 . Following up on some of those instagram accounts.

My parents always told me to watch out for this kinda shit here in Arizona. It just gets even more sinister.

That Van closely matches Hillarys Campaign Vehicle and hers has a bed;

https://i.sli.mg/OpbEkL.jpg

WikiLeaks: Podesta Emails Reveal Sick Hillary Clinton's Van Has A Power Sofa Bed In The Back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTATRkHQymE

Ice Cream Trucks in Sweeden are probably also used for smuggling;

Someone took photos of inside of Ice Cream truck GB Glace - Pedo Heart Symbols

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1499559

Here is John Podesta's custom-built "Molesta Van" from Wikileaks:

https://i.sli.mg/fBWnC0.jpg

Where is the link showing this pic is from Wikileaks?

Well they can't operate if they are known about. Consider this. We, as Americans, are very aware that this country and other countries had slavery. This practice was mostly reserved to private property, in colonial states of, Britain, Belgium,Spain, Portugal. This wasn't really openly practiced in the home countries, and if it was, they weren't black. This huge extremely profitable empire of human trafficking that existed then, is still here on this planet. It would be extremely naive to think it went away, just because we "abolished" the practice in the US. The human trafficking has only increased since that time. http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/there-are-more-slaves-today-any-time-human-history. Another thing to remember in this investigation, is that human trafficking is a blanket term for the alphabet agencies. It's a nice way of saying slaver/pedophilia/porn/organ harvesting. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking

Offtopic but don't want to start a new thread to ask a question, sorry. 8chan seems to be broken, can't post anymore? Could someone confirm? Thanks.

Excellent work! Especially the proof of the media cover up. What in the fuck is going on in our country??!!!

Another fantastic post ... what are the chances human traffickers and Podesta would use the same vans? And there was at least one other email (possibly more) where someone was put in charge of getting "vans" for transportation? Was it Eryn? Great stuff! Lots of leads ... let's find that one piece of evidence that blows the lid off this thing.

Good work. No time to look out sources just now , but there was a Madron Seligman associated with Ted Heath (ex Prime Minister UK and child abuser) who toured Germany with him jsut before second world war (when heath was said to have been turned into German DVD agent blackmailed due to his paedophilia) and also Heath was godfather to his child. Maybe they are related to this Seligman that you mention

Relevant indeed. Kudos, sincerely.

Thank you!

This is very good stuff.

wow! great work,, wish I could give more than one upvote!!