@reasonedandinformed - Calling you out as a CTR bot operator
@kingkongwaswrong
This sub is filled with CTR bots.
I have figured out how they work. It's not so easy to explain, feel free to ask questions, you might have to re-read this a few times before you can go "ahh haa". I will break it up into three parts.
First, I will present a very obvious example The thread in question can be seen here:
The actual post content is questionable, but that is another matter. I believe bots can attach to non-CTR posts as well, so the content of the OP does not matter so much for my case here. You can read my comments on the actual post content here (sort by 'bottom' and my comment is most downvoated, lol)
So... the CTR original poster - 'reasonedandinformed' (classic appeal to authority psyop) posts. Then presses "play" for a bot conversation to get comments up, and walks away.
Open this screencap now so you can follow my logic...
https://sli.mg/N3vPmY
Problem is in this instance, one of the comments at the start (Evidenceforthings) was complaining about an earlier comment (lawfag123) being downvoted, when the comment in question was not actually downvoted. Several legit human accounts (fireabend, onegin) noticed this and replied. @fireabend even posted a screencap here https://sli.mg/xjXUYj A glitch in the matrix was observed. I saw this myself a few hours after these other guys noticed.
And who comes along to explain the glitch? Not any of the alleged bot posters that the questioners where actually addressing, but the human supervisor account, the OP - reasonedandinformed. The explaination was that one of the 'bots' was not refering to a voat post, but one from reddit/self. Complete BS excuse.
Second: How the bots work
The CTR strategy is this; they have sets of prewritten 'conversations' between the bot accounts, a real person has to hit the 'play' button, and also monitor it for any non-bot activity that they can later respond to if needed. When the original post is from CTR, the conversation makes sense, it is related to the original post.
But when the OP is from a real person and CTR does not have a response written up already, they play something semi-related, probably find something from keywords or in line with one of their strategies (strategy examples: disinfo, racist violent redneck, conspiricy nutter, sexist men, bible basher etc.). This results in a post with entire threads of conversation only tentatively related to the OP. It looks strange. Here is an example; https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1476125 The post is about the CIA planning a coup on Donald Trump to cover up pizzagate. The top reply, and replies to that reply are about 'Jesus' and do not relate to the original post at all. Another glitch in the CTR bot matrix.
Third topic... The controlled overthrow of LegionWill
I have had my eye on LegionWill for some time. I started by simply calling this account out (where is your source.. etc), then eventually gathered a big list of BS he posted. CTR was watching and could see I was going to destroy him. In the back of my mind I thought they would 'throw him under the bus' in order to maintain credibility of their bot army.
I wrote up a well sourced post why LegionWill is a CTR shill, and posted it on one of his threads https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1473609/7142307 . Immediately, another account came in to support me https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1473609/7143128. I even replied to this saying how amazing the timing was, and that it makes it look like we are coordinating. This account was 'reasonedandinformed'. Reasonedandinformed was controlled opposition. They helped me by providing proof of a forged screenshot of kingkongwaswrong on reddit. They had the screenshot because they made the screenshot. All of a sudden it looked like the whole 'community' was on my side. Exactly what I was expecting from a controlled opposition bot army. So I made a new post here hinting at that, titled "LegionWill thrown under the bus by his own shill army" - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1474104
After LegionWill was gone, it was almost like he was still there. Posts on 'hot' had all the hallmarks of his postings. But the posts were now made under username 'reasonedandinformed'. They are just as poorly sourced rubbish as LegionWill was posting before, and upvoated like crazy.
In summary, I believe this sub is infested with bots. And the only way I think we can beat them is to figure out who the legitimate accounts are, not who the shills are, because there are far too many shills.
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ByTheBook ago
Hello all below. I have edited this post. My original post had trouble due to a keyboard error.
This is a challenging accusation to defend against isn't it? If I say I am not a bot I must therefore be a bot. Lovely catch 22 you put me in. Waht wuold heppan if I uesd txet olny hmuans cuold raed? Deos taht covnince you?
The Jesus meme has them scared. By this I mean coopting hashtag jesus with pizzagate info to wake the normies. Keep it going. God bless.
DuffBeer4Me ago
WOW! Look at this post... It makes no sense. They are monitoring Keywords! I posted "Jesus" and 'bots" in OP.
RickFeynman ago
Just dump some Turing testing on them like "Would you like boiled dog, or a childs liver for lunch", you will generally know if its a BOT, not much has changed since blade-runner. Bots are not disgusted by context.
BOT's R here but there the one's read posts and comments, getting a sentiment score, and generating canned questions, the most common is "Can U provide support Rule-3 to your assertion", then U come back to the BOT and say, what is your fucking question, and they just give the same generic, the problem is they look for keywords, and negative sentiment, but their responses are generic and canned.
Again, all effort should be expended discussing Pizzagate giving time to BOTS or Hasbara-Shills is a waste of your time.
reasonedandinformed ago
I would like neither, so I guess I am not a BOT.
Sui_Juris ago
Brilliant suggestion with a Turing test. How do we suggest this feature?
Could be something the mods can turn on and off, also could be something for new accounts.
Test could also be varied and/or rotated to make it more difficult for the SOBs.
Can't upvote this enough!
abortionburger ago
okay @RickFeynman, is your favorite Turing Pizza Gate or boiled Hot Dogs sprinkled with pedophilia and satanic rituals? lol clearly any human being would know that i am being completely sarcastic lol
RickFeynman ago
U need to be closer to blade-runner, I program bots for a living dude and by context your giving to much info to the sentiment analysis engine.
U don't need to feed the pizza gate or pedophile detail, just ask them if they want "boiled dog or a childs liver", U start adding all kinds of trigger keywords and the bot will go one way or another.
My favorite thing to do is feed a bot shit, that way it becomes useless, think about 'Tay' recently the Microsoft Bot, after 12 hours it became a dope smoking nazi.
Feed the bots shit and they will talk shit.
I do think the blade runner movie gave some of the best information ever given on bot detection, the "Human emotion test cannot be beat".
Here's one for a PEDO BOT suitable to the context of say Mai-Lai massacre ( vietnam ) ask the bot "I have a necklace of child's genitals, would like a clitoris or a penis"
abortionburger ago
@RickFenman but you are neglecting the PEDO BOT suitability initiative in the #pizzagate action. For which necklace shall Podesta favorite the Nazi? U need to boil children and small genitals to start botting all kinds of th!ngs a Hum4n could absolutely, pedophilically never accomplish! Truth shall win over the fate of nonsense context sentiment analysis engines! trigger shit will talk shit like blade-runner or BLADE RUNNER interestingly how enough pizza pasta gate podesta has programmed satanic inconsistencies in your hyphen usage. Portals and Sacrifice will not save you because you a re a machine and not a human. There is a fundamental difference between those born again children who have decided to read this entire message and those who did not. WE don't know what the fuck is going on but we fucking will, and when we do there will be no mercy.