Ooo Not bad huh? Pretty fucking click baity... Luckily it's a well worth it click. I posted this earlier, no one looked at it. It's good. But since I posted this earlier, and the title Is for this one specifically, I'm not asking you go back to my other post first, before reading this one... BUt you should check that one out in what ever order you want, because with out that one, I wouldn't have this one.
- Ctrl f Frank, If you want to skip to that connect first.
So who has heard Of J & T packing company? I haven't. I mean, there's no reason you would have, If you're not looking for it.
And actually, Even if you're looking for it... There's not much to find. I thought I found the companies website, Only to realize It was "J.I.T Packaging, Inc"
J.I.T. Packaging, Inc. is a full service custom Industrial Packaging company that was started in 1994 with the premise to supply our customers with the highest quality custom packaging solutions and the best customer service possible.
So I Tried "J & T PACKING COMPANY" and "J & T PACKING COMPANY Inc." and I got 2 results. 2 results on the fucking internet, For that combination of words and letters.
What the fuck are you talking about fuckuredditfuckuspez?
Well one of the two results was the business filling for the company, which is where the reason for this post comes into play.
The Chief Financial Officer For J & T packing company inc is, ANDREW KESSEL
Before we go any further, please check out MY LAST POSThhere
It was the third post I made on the subject. The first 2 were disorganized as fuck. between the three posts, It Received 18 up votes, 1 down vote, and a handful of helpful comments...Which makes it very hard for me to determine how relevant it seems to be, Regardless of my personal feeling that it's extremely relevant. Honestly, I was more so looking for people to tell me WHY I'm wrong to think it's relevant, but no one did.
BUT ANYWAYS my last post covers Andrew Kessel as well as;
- David Flintsone HAwaii, (This post will Connect to that as well, Via LISA JACKSON
- Kaiser Foundation, (The founder of the town that David flintstone owns property in
- Clinton foundation (andrew kessel)
- Bethellehm steel fire day after the election.The biggest fire you never knew happened, Hours after election
- the Connection all of the above have with one another.
It was because of that research, That lead me to this.
Andrew Kessel Is the registiered agent of many of the CLinton foundation addresses, through out various states... In 4 states, Andrew kessel and the C foundation Shared for addresses with David Franjoine, (and a bunch more only blocks away)
- David Franjoine owns a a laundry list of companies, Ranging from Mining, Demolition, Real Estate, Construction, Steel manufacturing etc...INCLUDING the building that caught fire hours after the election.
Please take the 10 minutes to Check out that post, as it has a lot of though provoking information, you might have never considered. I'm certain it's extremely relevant.
OR Take the 10 minutes to check out the post, and take another 5 telling me why it's retarded, and has zero lead potential. Any feed back is much appreciated.
ONWARD!
Here is the Company Contacts For "J & T Packing company inc"(One of two search results)
CFO: andrew Kessel
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WILLIAM CLINTON;Director
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FRANK GIUSTRA (Clinton foundation, radcliff foundation with pedo mining mogul,) Director
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LISA JACKSON; AKA (Richard WIndsor, David flintstone connect) Director
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CHELSEA CLINTON; Director
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CHERYL MILLS; Director
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CHERYL SABAN; Director
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DONNA SHALALA; president
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ERIC GOOSBY Director:
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HADEEL IBRAHIM; Director
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KEVIN THURM; Chief Operating Officer
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RICARDO CASTRO;Assistant Sec.
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ROLANDO GONZALEZ-BUNSTER:Director
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STEPHANIE STREETT;Secretary
Is there a simple explanation that my fatigued brain can't comprehend? Why are all of these people the company contacts for A company that is virtually non existent? Do they have a subsidiary companies with variations of this name?
I Will Do my own research when I'm able too. But I have never seen this mentioned, and it seems to be relevant as fuck. Or I have a fucking brain tumor. At this point, those seem to be the only two options.
As always, if this is not new, Or you have a reason to beleive this is not relevant... PLEASE make that known. Constructive Criticism when it comes to this shit. If you're a cunt, I'll block you and never worry about you again. There is zero reason to be a cunt.
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standalone ago
At the very minimum, this creates another connection between Bill Clinton, Frank Giustra and David Flintstone, which is already worth the while. Goes to show that the relationship is deeper than just via the Clinton Foundation.
Now, something puzzles me: the registry mentions that this is a .. non-profit! Why on earth would anyone register a packing company as a non-profit as if packing was a philanthropic activity?
EDIT: It appears that the company record quoted by OP from Bizpedia is inconsistent with the official Arkansas business registry (see child comments). Unless it is proven that it's the Arkansas registry entry that is false (very doubtful), this pretty much invalidates the lead and the entire thesis in this thread.
cantsleepawink ago
WE'RE BEING PLAYED !!! *
Google 'Bizapedia and AgileCraft' to see what I mean. AgileCraft is a software company whose VP is LJ ALEFANTIS. I believe that they are planting false information. If we do not check our sources we will be discredited as well as waste lots of time. (Note the street address of this so called packing company.) AND ARCHIVE EVERYTHING
standalone ago
I'll be damned, you are right! This Bizapedia entry (archive) about the J & T Packing is inconsistent with the Arkansas registry. Here is the official record (archive):
And look at that address of the agent in the fake entry: "610 President Clinton Avenue, Little Rock, AR 72201". This looks strange, a bit too much "in your face". Yet this is a real address! It it the address of the President Clinton Center, a controversial project started in Arkansas and funded in part by Marc Rich, a financier who was being prosecuted for fraud and tax evasion, and later received the presidential pardon from Clinton. Strange story... Unrelated to #pizzagate, but weird nonetheless. It's interesting who researching things around Clintons always leads to controversies, aborted investigations, bizarre legal setups, covered up affairs of corruption and pedophilia and accidental deaths...
Anyway, back to the point. You are right that we are being played. The Bizapedia entry is inconsistent with the Arkansas registry and links to another half a dozen equally bizarre Clinton owned entities that seem equally phony. Now the question is who is doing that and how? Could it be CTR trying to push us to make false claims, so that MSM can debunk our findings and discredit the entire effort? Could it be Trump side astroturfers who poisonned the well to make the Clintons look like they were hiding businesses? And how? Looking at Bizapedia, they claim to offer tools to perform due diligence and legal checks! With a fantasy database, really? Or is it Arkansas registry that is wrong?
We need to dig that shit. Clearly there is something spooky going on here.
UPDATE:
pizzagate wasn't the target of this manipulation it seems. According to Bizapedia (inasmuch as what they say can be trusted at all), the last time the record was modified was 9/6/2016 which was a good month before #pizzagate started. No record in archive.org. It seems that Bizapedia has a bad reputation and many people complain that the info is inaccurate, outdated, or even outright phony.
Going forward we should only accept as proof of a company's status and information official company registry entries.
@OP: this invalidates a lot of the research you have done. Please update your info using the official company registry, and see what still makes sense.
InfiltratingAuditing ago
Clinton Foundation Investigators were looking into all the companies at that time per the Clinton Foundation Investigation as a result of Uranium One and FBI Anon.
So, your leap of logic is invalidated. Please update your information using the facts you failed to present.
boobasaurus_tex ago
Maybe a stupid question since I lurk here infrequently, I'm not up to speed. But does anyone ever check the county public tax and property records on this stuff? Usually "countyname"appraisal district is the website for property records. Official records, deeds, etc can be found by a google search to get you to the website. my county is eagle'countyname'org, but idk what others are.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE FILINGS. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?> EVERY THING IS ACCURATE VIA THAT SOURCE. THE ONLY THING THAT CAN't BE FOLLOWED UP VIA THAT SOURCE IS THE J and T Packing company.
ALL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION INFORMATION VIA THAT SOURCE CAN BE VERIFIED.
ALL OF THE DAVID FRANJOINE INFORMATION VIA THAT SOURCE CAN BE VERIFIED.
THE ONLY THING THAT DOESN'T HAVE A TRAIL, IS J AND T. .... and you're Saying that a different Source that Has a Filing that been revoked and inactive, with different people, IS WHAT DISCREDITS THE SOURCE THAT IS ACTIVE WITH GOOD STANDING... HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?
THAT"S WHAT DRAWS SUSPICION
SAME FILING NUMBER, SAME DATE. THOSE DATES ARE THE SAME AS TWO CLINTON FOUNDATION FILINGS, AND THE FILING NUMBER CORRELATES TO THOSE TWO CLINTON FOUNDATIONS AS WELL.
Your defense is that the ARKANSAS state website, doesn't have the information that I provided, so that must mean my information is false? Fuck you. Even though the two seperate sources that have no reason to lie, say the same thing? It's only .GOV that has discrepancies.
Why don't you look in the Missing person websites run by the government as well.
AreWeSure ago
Why is the Clinton Center controversial? It holds the presidential library and in partnership with the University of Arkansas, a school for public service where you can get a Master's degree.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
Why is the fact that it holds a presidential library, and is in partnership with a university, In your comment at all?
What are you insinuating by stating those facts? That there's nothing to worry about?
Is that legitimately the point you're trying to make... Or dId I misinterpret why you brought up that information?
DO you think this is reddit? Where fellow retards/shills, are going to up vote your comment, as if you've actually made a point, or contributed something of substance.
abortionburger ago
Might I recommend archiving this thread and then deleting it? If it is indeed debunked, I could still see MSM grabbing onto it and ignoring the fact that we disproved it, still using it to their advantage.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
IT'S NOT DE BUNKED. DO YOUR FUCKING OWN RESEARCH. JESUS FUCK. THESE ARE TWO SEPERATE LISTINGS. ONE IS ACTIVE, THE ONE I POSTED. THe one that is inactive, is a different listing agent...
BUT ITS THE SAME FILING NUMBER, SAME DATE. THOSE DATES ARE THE SAME AS TWO verified CLINTON FOUNDATION FILINGS, AND THE FILING NUMBER CORRELATES TO THOSE TWO CLINTON FOUNDATIONS AS WELL.
ALDO_NOVA ago
trust us, this company isnt a plant to distract from other things, this has been purposely hidden from public
r3dtr1x ago
Bizapedia aggregates data from Secretary of State business filings. It's legit.
billcaseyABC ago
Check my posts elsewhere in this thread. You're right that the bizpedia entries don't sync with Arkansas SoS...but don't just jump to the conclusion that Bizpedia was hacked by CTR or something.
Consider that the State of Arkansas is packed with long-time Clinton loyalists...you really don't think they could get one of their shell company's filings modified on the official state database?
This is a spooky af, and we should pursue all the angles, but let's refrain from declaring "ITS A REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY PSYOP" until we find more evidence
standalone ago
You are right that this can't be entirely excluded. Reworded "fake" into "inconsistent" for the sake of precision. That being said, many elements point to Bizpedia being the one that is fake. First Bizpedia has got very bad reputation: there are plenty of very negative customer reviews claiming that records are phony or outdated. Next, Chelsea Clinton is a registered shareholder which is strange because the company was incorporated in 1997, and back then she was only 17 and therefore not legally independent. Last but not least, the address of the incorporation agent on record didn't even exist in 1997: the "President Clinton Avenue" was named at the time the President Clinton Center was constructed in 2001. Beside all the other independent business registries all have the same address as the Arkansas registry.
Another thing to consider is that business registries are not the only record of business creations. New businesses creations are gazetted, so there must be a paper trail of the creation of this firm, and changing its status silently would conflict with the official paper trail and all the copies of the statuses that were created from the official registry. I'm not saying that this would be beyond what corrupt politicians can do: we have seen much more crazy stuff. But it would be unnecessarily risky to do that because should it be exposed, people would start doubting the reliability of business registries, and shareholder registries, and company ownership, and property ownership, and (why not?) birth registries as well, which means it would be possible to create electors out of thin air with a bit more trickery... Wait, didn't Trump claim that actually happened? Oh well...
Anyway, unlikely. My money on the hypothesis that Bizpedia is full of sh*t
Well, you are stretching that farther than the ideas was toying with. Given the last update date on Bizpedia, I don't think this was modified to trick #pizzagate. This arrived 2 months before the election though, so it's likely to be election related. That being said, I looked for a related hoax, and couldn't find anything.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
DUDE YOU'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT LISTINGS!! THEY AREN'T SUPPOSED TO MATCH UP. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
cantsleepawink ago
Archive everything. Because if we are being played we need proof.
FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago
We are not fucking being played. That's retarded fucking notion. You have misunderstanding what you're looking at .
SAME FILING NUMBER, SAME DATE. THOSE DATES ARE THE SAME AS TWO VERIFIED CLINTON FOUNDATION FILINGS, AND THE FILING NUMBER CORRELATES TO THOSE TWO CLINTON FOUNDATIONS AS WELL.
standalone ago
done, links in the post