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Crensch ago

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Temporary mentions: Hawaii leads. FOIA/Rubio

thelastaelor ago

I have a problem with

Interesting that as this is becoming more mainstream and blowing up, pedophilia is being pushed as normal as by the psychological association.

Following the link provided brings you to a bullshit fake news site. That site provides this link as a source. If you read that article, it reads:

It’s fair to say the Tromovitch view does not represent majority academic opinion. It’s likely, too, that some of the academic protests against the “stigmatisation” of paedophiles are as much a backlash against the harshness of sex offender laws as anything else. Finally, of course, academic inquiry is supposed to question conventional wisdom and to deal rigorously with the evidence, whether or not the conclusions it leads you to are popular. Even so, there really is now no shortage of evidence about the harm done by child abuse. In the latest frenzy about the crimes of the past, it’s worth watching whether we could, in the future, go back to the intellectual climate which allowed them.

voatcaesarpizza ago

Following the link provided brings you to a bullshit fake news site.

Only shills use the term "fake news" around here. Get the fuck off this subvoat.

thelastaelor ago

fake news is absolutely real. If you think half of these newsites aren't making exaggerated claims or spewing outright sensationalist lies by twisting their 'sources' (which it looks like people like you aren't checking after all), if they even have any, in order to make a large profit from going viral, think again. Or think at all. For example the website linked, as well as CNN, you cuck. Learn to evaluate a source, or is critical thinking too much to ask? Oh wait I forgot, you wanna turn voat into your own safe space.

voatcaesarpizza ago

It's like you're made of logical fallacies.

thelastaelor ago

you wanna name one? I've got one for ya: How about because fake news is being used to discredit a credible investigation, you assume fake news is a total fabrication with zero merit? I think that one's even on the 8chan img.

voatcaesarpizza ago

Double reply, because I owe you a real response instead of just going on the defensive.

Encouraging the fake news narrative is something this subvoat has been hit with in the past few days by very clear infiltrators. Calling something a "fake news site" furthers that narrative. Instead, I think we really ought to stay away from a term that is largely being to undermine us. I don't see why you have to call it a "fake news site" when you can just call it "not a credible source". Labeling things as "fake news" is a dangerous thing to do because of the context it carries.

That said, I don't want to create an echo chamber. I want critical thinking. I think too many of us get swept up in insignificant details and don't want to acknowledge when something is truly innocuous.

And thus I engaged in the same behavior by calling you a shill. I was following the crowd and was too aggressive toward you in my reaction. I apologize for that.

Unless you really are a shill. In which case fuck right off.

thelastaelor ago

You're right, I could have just called it a uncredible source. On the other hand, it was an opportunity to make the point that just because fake news is being used to discredit us, does not mean fake news is not real and dangerous to this investigation, which judging by many of the posts I've seen, especially lately, especially the ones which make it to the front page, is an an important point to make. Either way, nothing much came out of it, it got about 5 points in total, so mbleh.

voatcaesarpizza ago

Tu quoque, with a sprinkle of strawman about that "safe spaces" bullshit

fast edit: removed the second part because I misread you

thelastaelor ago

Yeah a little bit, but eh, I don't know. I see a lot in common with some of the alt-right/neo-nazi/whatever-they-are-I-don't-know and SJWs -- more than I think either group realizes.

voatcaesarpizza ago

This really needs to be investigated with a centrist eye. Go too far in either direction and you fall off the deep end, which I'd say a lot of people here have already done. Sometimes we see these theories that are super sketchy, then people respond saying "I knew it!! Hang them all!!" or "They can't get away with this forever!!", just taking everything at face value.