This subverse is for the investigation of and dissemination of information related to #pizzagate. For all newcomers, please stop the circlejerk pats on the back submissions, please limit them to comments. WE CAN ONLY SET 1 STICKY SO THIS IS IT BOYS AND GIRLS.
# 1 Rule
DO NOT LINK TO CP (childporn)
That will pretty much undermine the sub, could cause members to be charged and go to jail, and get us banned. Please let me know by mentioning me if someone has linked to CP. (use @kingkongwaswrong in your comment)
What you can do right now - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1429028
Getting up to speed on #pizzagate, image version - https://sli.mg/a/ybiz3L
Getting up to speed on #pizzagate, text version - http://archive.is/4Uzg8
Message to journalists - archive of the last thread over at reddit: https://archive.fo/MrsGu#selection-1807.0-2093.34
On my modding + suggestions - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1428377
On shills and JTRIG - https://archive.fo/MOaOk
/r/Pizzagate archives - https://archive.fo/https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/
/r/pizzagate scrape - available for 24 hours - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1428510
Voat canary - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1428846
BEFORE YOU SUBMIT A LINK OR THREAD
- Sliding is an effective mechanism used by shills - whereby they flood a forum with low value distracting content to 'slide' important content
- So lets not help the shills.
- Before you post, consider what value you're adding
- Yes we know you're happy and it's great that we have a replacement for reddit, but feel free to add that sentiment below, rather than diluting our sub with more posts
- This sub is for investigation, knowledge sharing and learning, not for circlejerking.
- Example of a well intentioned but waste-of-space submission - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1428993
Other things we need
- We need a safety thread, this whole domain of investigation is unsafe. If someone wants to write one up or link me to an archived version of the pizzagate ones that would be great.
- Would also be useful to get a thread on what to look for from shills, so we can see them and point them out easily.
- Might also be good to have a thread on voat vs reddit? cultural differences?
Investigative guides
- Never assume that info is safe captured once. Use redundancies, including pastebin, archive.is, waybackmachine and screenshotting. We never know what might be deleted or taken down.
- **We use http://sli.mg/ not imgur here. imgur has a strong affiliation with reddit. **
- Check link urls before you click them (hover over them and see what they read at the bottom of your browser). be critical of outside links that are unfamiliar
Definitions
- CP - child porn
- MSM - Main Stream Media
- Shill - someone who is paid to push a specific agenda online
- JTRIG - Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group, Government planned Shilling
- CTR - Correct the Record, DNC funded shills
My personal suggestions
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND MAKING AN ONGOING MONTHLY DONATION TO VOAT https://store.voat.co/donate-5-every-month us paying means they don't need to rely on investors which may bias them in the future.
- Make an account and join us, but some users have suggested using a different name to your reddit account
- Don't post info that could identify you
- Exercise critical thinking and judgement at all times, be skeptical but helpful
- Be kind to each other
- Save downvotes for shills
- Don't post distracting content or 'funnies'. Memes are ok when informative and used to spread a message, but not just to laugh at 'in jokes'
- Check out gab.ai - another independent platform that's kind of like a mix between reddit and twitter
Please post suggestions and feedback below.
You can use @kingkongwaswrong to get my attention in a thread, but please don't spam me.
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d347h574r ago
Ok, so, I'm getting laughed at by people when I try and talk about this stuff. I have to admit as powerful as all this information is, it is largely circumstantial. How do I explain the evidence in a cohesive way? Is there any direct evidence?
UglyTruth ago
The most direct evidence is the WikiLeaks codewords, you can show them how the ordinary meaning is nonsensical:
"In the pasta game changer put us in a position to help both parties and gave them incentives." ~Hillary Clinton https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23566
More examples here: http://actsinjunction.info
NotThe77th ago
We don't yet and probably won't get any clear cut evidence on this, what we do have is a mountain of circumstantial stuff.
Trying to explain this to people unwilling to spend time in the rabbit hole won't work so don't try to sell the whole story, hint that you know something interesting but "it might be nothing, the FBI leaks might be fake". Let them drag it out of you, let them do some digging.
d347h574r ago
This is good advice, I appreciate it, I can't believe that even the possibility of this happening isn't enough to spark people that I know. I fully admit to them that the evidence is circumstantial, but I'm seriously getting laughed at! This is more than enough evidence to start an investigation, isn't it? Thanks again :D