18793780? ago

I'll be known as Big Scotch, since I'll be stocking BIC lighters, Scotch Tape and run a whisky distillery.

7e62ce85 ago

  1. See ForTheUltimate's post/"all of the above"
  2. If you live in an Emergency Nation community you won't have to worry at all.
  3. See /v/Market. It's a sub for using crypto, trading precious metals and black market guns etc..

cyclops1771 ago

We are on the best of terms, and we are his only family left. I have skills and I work hard, he's just better at everything than me, And has the land.

Kalergi ago

He will need help. Small pack has better chance of survival than single prepper.

cyclops1771 ago

Biggest issue would be getting a hold of a dairy cow/goat - any livestock, tbh. farm is all hay or corn right now.

Kalergi ago

Goats are stupid easy to maintain, I've done it. Now you know what to bring to the equation-you be goat tender.

cyclops1771 ago

And I hate mowing the lawn. Win Win!

rektumsempra ago

I've heard federal reserve notes are legal tender but not lawful money, but popular law dictionaries (secondary sources) say legal tender=lawful money. I think you can invest in the United States Treasury instead of the Federal Reserve, which you're doing right now because you use Federal Reserve Notes. Google images of old bills. They used to say United States Dollar where ours say Federal Reserve Note. Most people don't realize there's a difference... lmao. Obviously you can buy Treasury bonds (10+ year time till maturity) but there are also Treasury Notes (1-10 years) and Treasury Bills (<1 year). You buy them at a discount and they mature to their face value (a bill might mature to its face value of $100 in 12 months so the Treasury sells it to me for $98). If you expect hyperinflation to happen, you should be happy buying a Treasury bond, note, or bill for above face value. Better to pay $102 for something that will be worth $100 in a year if the Federal Reserve collapses but the US Government doesn't. $98 was just an example; it doesn't have to be under face value even though it normally is. You buy them at the market price which ends up being different at every auction. Auctions are weekly I think, but you might need a broker apparently. Idk.

7e62ce85 ago

Do NOT buy treasury bonds. Lol wtf you kike.

rektumsempra ago

Then buy something, because right now if you own federal reserve notes you're investing in the jewish international bankers -- NOT the United States. You must realize, though, that the United States collapsing and the Federal Reserve collapsing are NOT the same thing. Both the military and the Treasury are under formally defined, legislative, absolute control of the United States government, not the Federal Reserve. I guess that could change... that would be the most disturbing event in history. I guess you'd need a constitutional amendment stripping the President of his role as the Commander-in-Chief and giving it to the chairman of the Federal Reserve. I'm talking about formal control, by the way, in case you already forgot. Saying Israel formally controls our President is false, since there's no legislation remotely close to that. Prohibiting boycotting Israel is a bad sign for sure, but nowhere is it written that Trump reports to Netanyahu. If he decides to, he's a coward should stick to building hotels. The buck stops with him until the Constitution changes.

Personally, though, I prefer cryptocurrency because it's literally the people's money. I prefer it to gold even. Monero is my favorite, because it's untraceable and perfectly private. Is right-wing anarchy a thing? lol

7e62ce85 ago

if you own federal reserve notes you're investing in the jewish international bankers

I already only hold a minimum of fiat.

Both the military and the Treasury are under formally defined, legislative, absolute control of the United States government

  1. Won't matter when there is hyperinflation.
  2. All controlled by kikes.

rektumsempra ago

  1. If there's hyperinflation, it will be of the Federal Reserve Note and the price of Treasury bonds (in terms of federal reserve notes) will go up a ton. You'll have to pay $200 for something that will yield $100 in a year because in a year that $200 will be like $50. I think that's the general idea of how it will work. Not that it's any better than buying gold.

  2. Trump was a billionaire since like his 30s. He didn't have to marry his daughter to a jew to get rich.

ForTheUltimate ago

I generally see 2-3 categories:

The dark ages doomsdayer approach: the grid will go down, and shieeeeet package: ammo, guns, food, water, fuel, handy tools, land, a autarkik community

The invest in yourself labor approach: increase your labor earning power by... learning stuff and keeping good health. This can include geographic earning flexibility to go where its best and escape venezuela degeneracy at little cost.

The invest in capital approach: Buy businesses, loans and don't worry.

I think the best category is in the ascending order from best to worst. You can always invest in the largest index in the universe or try to beat it. good luck.

proker ago

There is a wealth of historical precedent. In times of disruption and deprivation the following items become like money in terms of ease of trade and value, in descending order of value (or maybe liquidity): weapons, ammo, fuel, tobacco, liquor, coffee, food, clothing, generators.

In terms of planning, I'd say it depends on whether you're trying to survive, or trying to trade one thing (like ammo) for another (like food), or whether you're trying to amass more.

Not saying that's a definitive list, it's fairly arbitrary. It will vary a lot depending on the nature of the crisis: ammo and weapons wouldn't have helped much during Katrina or a similar natural disaster, but food and water would. In a scenario of total anarchy personal protection and the defense of resources would be the top priorities.

Lavender7 ago

Sugar!

scoobatron ago

Learn to grow weed or make moonshine.

SIayfire122 ago

I vote for moonshine. It can be used as fuel in certain scenarios.

fuspezza ago

But I dont recommend drinking and driving

SIayfire122 ago

What about driving and drinking?

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cyclops1771 ago

I just finished reading one of those "wormhole" books where the island of Nantucket gets mysteriously ported back to the Bronze Age (roughly 1250 BC). -- for thos einterested, it is titled Island in the Sea of Time by S.M. Stirling.

Anyways, it discusses the items that are of importance - metalworking/forge management is HUGE. Machining is another. Farming and seed management/storage is the third. Of other note is livestock and encyclopedae, so they can look up things (no more internet.). They are somewhat saved by abundance of resources, and somewhat avoid the issues that an apocalyptic situation would have today - mass riots, desperate groups and marauders.

Got to have so much firepower to protect anything. Gasoline is a huge deal. Refrigeration is gone, so food storage becomes an issue. Having solar/wind to keep food refrigerated would be a massive issue. Clean water would be an issue. Where to vacate waste would be an issue. Start there, and work towards machinery and metalworking.

7e62ce85 ago

"The Knowledge" by Lewis Dartnell is a really good book to have.

cyclops1771 ago

That looks pretty cool. Thanks for the tip!

mohammed_was_a_fag ago

I never considered encyclopedias/books. Weird how irrelevant they seem now.

cyclops1771 ago

I keep my "herbs as medicines" giant book, my "plants as food" giant book, and my "how to make wine" book safe and secure at all times. everything else is secondary!!!

mohammed_was_a_fag ago

When my grandpa passed I made sure to keep his books that showed how to do all sorts of things: how to build/design a proper drainfield, how to properly lay bricks and morter, how to build trusses, etc. It's from 1903, from his father. It's super fragile but I just thought it was so cool. He dropped out of school in the 8th grade bc of TB. Then finished high school education in the army. He built houses for living and sold them, with lumber that he cut from trees he fell. He is a true inspiration to me.

Kalergi ago

Chest freezers are best, loose little when opened. Run a PID for temp control.

PID controller. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. A proportional–integral–derivative controller (PID controller. or three-term controller) is a control loop feedback mechanism widely used in industrial control systems and a variety of other applications requiring continuously modulated control.

cyclops1771 ago

I would travel to my brother-in-laws house and live with him. If anyone is prepared or able to handle an apocalypse, it's him.

waterniggas ago

better be able to pull your own weight, then. Copy him, don't just leech.

cyclops1771 ago

I'm not going to be able to subsist in a city of 12 million and a .25 acre lot.

waterniggas ago

then plan to leave the city before shtf

cyclops1771 ago

Have gasoline in 10 gallon cans to get me from TX to PA.

waterniggas ago

no, I mean living outside of a city

cyclops1771 ago

Oh, yeah, we are looking. Currently, "city" is a loose term for the 1600 sq miles "city" it is. We have own water tower + treatment plant, fresh water supply (large creek) for our 550+ houses. Power would be the issue.

7e62ce85 ago

Give your brother some money for prepping if you will rely on him later.

Power would be the issue.

Buy a small wind turbine. Unlike solar panels they can be simply repaired and they produce a lot of power.

One the height of a house (but not much bigger than a flag pole) can give you ~10-25KW.

cyclops1771 ago

Don't really have much wind here. I looked at building a small shredder just to get the mechanics of it down, but unless a storm hits, not much to go on.

Now, if I were back in Western Kansas, with 30mph winds are the norm...

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TwooPsy ago

A good lathe, mill, drill press, and other manufacturing technologies. Those who can create will have an inherent value

Lavender7 ago

sewing machines helped a few jews in the ghetto during ww2.

mohammed_was_a_fag ago

I will definitely be getting some of those. I'm pretty decent at machining too. Manufacturing technologies, never considered that. Power to run them is a whole other issue though.

SIayfire122 ago

Gotta have a way to run them, so some solar panels or windmill wouldn't be a bad idea. A diesel generator is a must have, and can run off of nearly any oil like substance thin enough to inject into it's combustion chamber.

Kalergi ago

Military diesel generators. These brushed gensets are built for constant duty, unlike big box units for temp outage. They also underate them by 50%, so don't get one too big or it will suck fuel. These can run on a variety of fuels. MEP 03 is nice sized. Many are reconfiguatble for 3 phase. Iron Planet is where to buy at auction. Our Gov pisses away money, might as well benifit.

Wheatstone ago

Americans have over a trillion rounds of ammunition. This means they will not have the trading value that people think.

Supply and demand dictates the value of an asset.

proker ago

Those trillion rounds are probably held by 5% of the population; the other 95% will be clamoring for it in a SHTF scenario. The supply can't be easily distributed in any emergency scenario, so demand will be off the charts depending upon where you live, whether you are personally well-stocked, and who you know who might be willing to sell ammo.

SIayfire122 ago

Basically those 5% can band together, invite their friends and families, and build a fortress. Places like rural WV and PA will have it fairly easy compared to others. In the mountainous areas, there are very few roads they'd need to block off. There's plenty of wood to keep you warm. The soil is mostly clay which is great to build stuff like fireplaces, furnaces, etc. There's lots of deer, fish, and turkeys. There's lots of farmland and tools. Smaller communities already know everyone. Nearly every household had guns, ammo, and fishing gear, and many have archery equipment. You'd also have no shortage of fresh water.

Depending on your location, you may get lucky and someone might have a distillery for moonshine. Of course this would require sacrificing farmland to make the stuff, but once your little economy is stabilized, you may be able to set something up for fuel, drinking, and cleaning.

mohammed_was_a_fag ago

That's what I figured. But that's why I'd only buy enough right now to keep for myself to defend my family and our land.

Maltherian1 ago

I think you’d be surprised. Ammo plants will shut down pretty quick in the event of a collapse. Chemicals, tooling and replacement parts come from all over the world. I work at one and am still amazed at how many steps and how much work goes into ammunition

ShowMeYourKitties ago

Trade it for ammo, nonperishable foods and precious metals (in that order of importance) before the collapse.

mohammed_was_a_fag ago

Antibiotics have a fairly short shelf life yes?

Why precious metals if the means of manufacturing have collapsed? Do you think even in an appocolyptic scenario, there would still be people vain enough to want shiny things? Would those types of people even be safe to trade with? I guess gold and precious metals have been valued my mankind for centuries, so I suppose my family (great grandkids etc) could utilize it and start out on top in the next resurgence of human civilization.

I also don't know where to buy those precious metals where I want get taken. Plus doesn't the federal government monitor precious metal bullion that is sold?

DrSelfAppointed ago

The reason precious metals have been used as currency is that that are easily verifiable and transportable, finite in supply, and also do not decay. This provides an easy medium to act as universal currency when faced with a need to trade where one party lacks what another party needs. Maybe the guy you want to trade for gas already has bullets, he needs rice you don't have; now you gotta go find rice from another guy who may or may not need bullets.

It is also the one thing that can be guaranteed for trading outside affected areas. Just because shit hit the fan one place, doesn't mean the rest of the world is fucked. That gold stash might buy you a ticket out of the place your in.

Bought a safe off of a moderately successful Iraqi that survived some of the war zones of an early conflict in the region, essentially the money was worthless and his gold stash kept him and his alive.

waterniggas ago

this is the only rational explanation of gold I've ever heard, thanks

slwsnowman40 ago

Do you think even in an appocolyptic scenario, there would still be people vain enough to want shiny things?

Of course there will be. Gold and silver will have value, there will be other things immediately after a SHTF event that will be more valuable, but once those normalize it will go back to gold and silver at least.

mohammed_was_a_fag ago

But in a non materialist world without manufacturing of electronics, what value will shiny metals have? Just perceived value bc it's shiny?

slwsnowman40 ago

I don't know, I don't live during a time without electronics. However, gold and silver had some value or else there would be no gold and silver rushes throughout history.

mohammed_was_a_fag ago

That's what I was thinking. I guess humans aren't far from raccoons in that regard. We've always liked shiny stuff. Weird.

proker ago

True, but irrelevant. Humans have been using shiny metals as currency for millennia because people (and raccoons) inherently delight in them, because they are rare and difficult to counterfeit, and because an agreed-upon medium of exchange eases personal (and other) transactions astronomically.

Humans, unlike raccoons, formed economies based upon abstract exchanges of value at least 10,000 years ago, and have persisted in the practice ever since. I doubt that is going to die out because of a hundred years of parasitical fiat banking schemes that are even more abstracted (but maybe).

slwsnowman40 ago

I think the history book writers are hiding something. Like they don't want us to find out that fiat currency is a horrible idea and trying to hide things that always held some type of value because it was hard to fake.

ShowMeYourKitties ago

Immediately after, they won't be worth much.

After things calm down a bit, precious metals will be useful for trade and will act as currency.

At least until the tribe comes out of their burrows and attempts to resume their usurious tricks.

7e62ce85 ago

I read that the military tested old drugs and found them to be safe and mostly still effective after ~20 years or something like that.

Buy amoxicillin for farm animals and stock it.

ShowMeYourKitties ago

Yeah most stuff is good, liquid medications break down a lot faster and some can degrade to a harmful state.

mohammed_was_a_fag ago

Well I'd hope that once they come out of their holes, people would be wise to their tricks. I would hope most of the stupid people would be dead after the first couple weeks