Like it or not we work for fiat currency. What's the best long term investment to protect that energy you've spent to earn that money, so that it is liquid enough to convert back to fiat if necessary, but will also maintain its worth in the event of societal collapse?
Shit load of preserved food?
Land?
Guns and ammo to protect said investments
Renewable energy infrastructure for your home?
Would it literally just be anything that you need to be self sufficient?
I've recently discovered Michael Ruppert....
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cyclops1771 ago
I just finished reading one of those "wormhole" books where the island of Nantucket gets mysteriously ported back to the Bronze Age (roughly 1250 BC). -- for thos einterested, it is titled Island in the Sea of Time by S.M. Stirling.
Anyways, it discusses the items that are of importance - metalworking/forge management is HUGE. Machining is another. Farming and seed management/storage is the third. Of other note is livestock and encyclopedae, so they can look up things (no more internet.). They are somewhat saved by abundance of resources, and somewhat avoid the issues that an apocalyptic situation would have today - mass riots, desperate groups and marauders.
Got to have so much firepower to protect anything. Gasoline is a huge deal. Refrigeration is gone, so food storage becomes an issue. Having solar/wind to keep food refrigerated would be a massive issue. Clean water would be an issue. Where to vacate waste would be an issue. Start there, and work towards machinery and metalworking.
7e62ce85 ago
"The Knowledge" by Lewis Dartnell is a really good book to have.
cyclops1771 ago
That looks pretty cool. Thanks for the tip!
mohammed_was_a_fag ago
I never considered encyclopedias/books. Weird how irrelevant they seem now.
cyclops1771 ago
I keep my "herbs as medicines" giant book, my "plants as food" giant book, and my "how to make wine" book safe and secure at all times. everything else is secondary!!!
mohammed_was_a_fag ago
When my grandpa passed I made sure to keep his books that showed how to do all sorts of things: how to build/design a proper drainfield, how to properly lay bricks and morter, how to build trusses, etc. It's from 1903, from his father. It's super fragile but I just thought it was so cool. He dropped out of school in the 8th grade bc of TB. Then finished high school education in the army. He built houses for living and sold them, with lumber that he cut from trees he fell. He is a true inspiration to me.
Kalergi ago
Chest freezers are best, loose little when opened. Run a PID for temp control.
PID controller. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. A proportional–integral–derivative controller (PID controller. or three-term controller) is a control loop feedback mechanism widely used in industrial control systems and a variety of other applications requiring continuously modulated control.
cyclops1771 ago
I would travel to my brother-in-laws house and live with him. If anyone is prepared or able to handle an apocalypse, it's him.
waterniggas ago
better be able to pull your own weight, then. Copy him, don't just leech.
cyclops1771 ago
I'm not going to be able to subsist in a city of 12 million and a .25 acre lot.
waterniggas ago
then plan to leave the city before shtf
cyclops1771 ago
Have gasoline in 10 gallon cans to get me from TX to PA.
waterniggas ago
no, I mean living outside of a city
cyclops1771 ago
Oh, yeah, we are looking. Currently, "city" is a loose term for the 1600 sq miles "city" it is. We have own water tower + treatment plant, fresh water supply (large creek) for our 550+ houses. Power would be the issue.
7e62ce85 ago
Give your brother some money for prepping if you will rely on him later.
Buy a small wind turbine. Unlike solar panels they can be simply repaired and they produce a lot of power.
One the height of a house (but not much bigger than a flag pole) can give you ~10-25KW.
cyclops1771 ago
Don't really have much wind here. I looked at building a small shredder just to get the mechanics of it down, but unless a storm hits, not much to go on.
Now, if I were back in Western Kansas, with 30mph winds are the norm...