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Andy-Chryst ago

I felt like t_d was a good community, it is now seeing those losers crawl back to reddit I feel pity on the simple minded fools who for all their cries of people just "believing what theyre told" they are no fucking wiser. Pathetic. Whilst I feel a lot more alone, I like it better here and will never go back to that shit hole with those no conviction faggots

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

sadly once/if you actually get redpilled you won't be able to go back, you'll no longer fit in.

AncientArachnid ago

RDD -- I'm sure you've been asked this a zillion times already, so I apologize but I'm not sure how to frame a search on search.voat so here goes.

It's commonly accepted (??) that Western civilization (Magna Carta, our Constitution, etc.) is based on Judeo-Christian ethic and morality. Without getting into a discussion about whether a moral code is possible without some religious reference base, how do you resolve the Old Testament's influence on civilization with its writers and adherents?

If one believes the Jew is truly the root of a NWO, oppression, and deep evil, does that mean "their holy books are valid but their actions are not"? Or do you discard as unnecessary, or even possibly manipulative, the laws, behavioral, and moral codes of ethics Western civilization is (at least allegedly) based upon?

Serious question. This is something I'd have to reconcile before chewing on any more pills of any color.

Hope that makes some sort of sense.

AncientArachnid ago

Thank you, will read.

silver_polish ago

Good discussion!

Drop_Nukes_On_Israel ago

The West is based on pagan morality. Christianity had to warp itself to our European value system.

Get that Judeo-Christian Ted Cruz propaganda outta here.

AncientArachnid ago

Well, I'm not a Ted Cruz-style fundamentalist, devout Christian. This is just what most normies have been taught.

As far as the West in general being based on pagan morality, and Christianity needing to warp itself to fit existing Western European value systems -- can you direct me to more to read about that?

Serious questions. I have no agenda here. I want only to hear other viewpoints than the "standard" ones.

Drop_Nukes_On_Israel ago

Here's an article on how Church proceedings do not follow the word of the Bible and have pagan influences.

Here's an article where the wedding ring was originally part of pagan culture.

Big biblical quote from that article:

Deuteronomy 12:29-32 - “When the LORD your God cuts off from before you the nations which you go to dispossess, and you displace them and dwell in their land, take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, ‘How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise."

This violent culture smash decree didn't really work out completely for the Christians coming into Europe. I attribute this to the altruism that's displayed in our European people compared to the Semitic people of which Christianity originated.

AncientArachnid ago

Very interesting and informative articles and comment. Thank you.

Rainy-Day-Dream ago

a lot of america at it's founding was based on the code of conduct of the pirates