@ExpertShitposter writes:
Zyklon has been sperging out with pings and threats against kids. Everyone called him out on his shit. However, anyone can block him.
Why look at that! He's right! Honestly, I cannot argue with this. Well done!
Crensch has engaged in reddit style moderation with pre-emptive bans based on association. No one can stop his bans.
Well, let's see how this pans out in a nice little Voat graphic:
|
Can be blocked |
| Zyklon_b |
✅ |
| Crensch |
✅ |
REEEE U CAN BLOCK ZYKLON REEEEE -> You can block Crensch and GA, too.
Or crensch heavy handed banning behavior makes it normal for everyone to ban anyone in defense against "shills".
All you lazy fucks had to do was turn on your weakest link with the fervor you turn on mods that don't toe the line you draw for them. But he wasn't your weakest link, was he? He was an art project - like the "art" students in the towers before (((9-11))).
Keep in mind, when 2020 comes around, r/the_donald will probably finally get banned from reddit for real this time, and we will potentially become minorities compared to fresh reddit refugees. And this time they won't have a home to run back to, and won't be BTFO'd as easily as last time.
They won't be BTFO'd at all. I'll create a subverse for them and run roughshod all over anyone still stuck in the bubble of (((free speech))) as you know it.
Most people agree that both of them are wrong, but who is a bigger threat to voat?
Do everyone here a favor and define this "voat" that I'm a threat to. I'd love to have that discussion soon.
@Trigglypuff writes:
Goats used to pride themselves on having thick skins.
But also wrote:
That’s when it got personal tbh.
Where's that thick skin? You took the revealing of a PM you ADMITTED made you sound like a loon, and plastered images she's previously removed from her other accounts all over a custom-built subverse. YOU think you have room to talk about thick skin? Or about women being emotional? Or how there are NO women on the internet?
It made you sound like a loon? Yeah, it did. So much so that I had the kind of cognitive dissonance you get when an AXIOM of your life is brought into question by something so solid you cannot dismiss it.
YOU did that. I don't even know how someone can manage to look so much like a goddamned shill/liar even when they are and are low-IQ. It was mind-boggling. It tripped nearly every red flag my mind could be bothered to muster through the state of shock it was in.
Even your re-reading of it got you to that conclusion; and now the (((emotional woman))) of voat has to go around talking shit about other women to feel better about herself.
We were fucking iconoclasts.
We were... in our bubble of internal logic. Now I am, outside of your bubble of logic.
All I see now is faggotry over beliefs
Beliefs like:
Hence Crensch is more dangerous to free speech
That's a belief, is it not?
What about this one:
q is definitely a Jewish lie
... which has been used to excuse any number of attacks on Q people, who have, to their credit, laughed with you almost invariably, to the point of referring to themselves as "qtards" now and then?
Consistency.
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heygeorge ago
To summarize:
If someone is sperging and you don’t care for it, you can block them.
If a mod banned you from a subverse for whatever reason, you can block yourself from seeing the posts you are not allowed to participate in.
These unequal ideas are presented as equivalent.
Triggly did not like that srayz shared a private conversation. This means she is an emotional woman.
You, Crensch, are no longer an iconoclast [n. A person who attacks cherished beliefs or institutions]
Some Qtards are good people.
Am I close? I think I’m close.
ExpertShitposter ago
Crensch has basically become an emotionally retarded faggot. We have seen this kind of switch before with 9-11, and a few others. Its always like this. So this is something one has to keep in mind when talking to him in the future.
The biggest extremists always turn out to be the biggest kikes. Kind of like when the original owner of v/niggers turned out to be a self admitted jew.
Crensch ago
It's easier to tone fallacy and dismiss my words as 'emotional'.
It's laughable to suggest retardation or Jewry, though. Do you notice any pilpul in my words? Loxism? Anti-white anything? Hell, I pointed out that so many of you are fucking mix-breeds or race-traitors already, but I don't see you calling out those users.
All I'm doing is defending a group of people capable of learning that the Holocaust might be a lie from the kind of people that want to run them off. What the fuck kind of people do you want here, anyway? Goat-On-Arrival types? Where do you find those, I wonder?
You really should try better to define the Voat you think you are defending; it's kind of central to the tenets of this particular crusade.
ExpertShitposter ago
By far the most important thing for survival of the white race is separation from blacks and jews. Everything else is less important. Because all other factors will determine will whites prosper more or less. But separatism will determine will they even survive or just die out in the next 300 years.
So any speech or actions that go against white separatism is evidence of lunacy or deliberate jewery. One look at the sidebar in QRV is all one need to know about (((Q))) and its followers. Its designed to keep people in the rat race, hoping for a simple political solution. Hey hey.....don't rock the boat now......wouldn't wanna risk losing my comforts now.....
You ban people who would speak out against Q and Trump kikery.
Crensch ago
The kinds of people that zyklon acts exactly like, 100% of the time? Got it.
I agree.
I agree.
How would you go about recruiting people to your side? Do you have the numbers to be the obvious, ubiquitous social in-group that everyone wants to join? Or are you still outside the Overton Window and you have to slowly redpill your recruits?
QRV is an abortion and always has been. The mods there aren't even legit by Q/boomer standards. Did you miss that?
A subverse of 13,000 had its mod question the Holocaust, and because it wasn't a purity-spiraling white supremacy rant, it's not enough for you.
You SBBH faggots are like spoiled children that want everything RIGHT NOW and don't want to work or wait for it, even when it is very obviously heading towards the reward you want.
Yeah, because you convince people to toss away their comforts and prepare to kill niggers by shouting at them from your soap box. This, too, is a defense mechanism in your mind against Q. It's unreasonable. Irrational. There's nothing to recommend your position on it whatsoever.
I ban people who would shit on the carpet.
I have a subverse specifically for people like you that want to argue against Q. I haven't seen it today, but as of last night, nobody had anything but personal attacks on Q and the followers, and the same bad arguments.
It's not convincing when you tell people you'd act like a spoiled dictator if you became POTUS, and that you'd kick the rule of law and all the other shit you'd need to do to the wayside while jailing and hanging people that hadn't even been tried in a court of law yet.
That's what your arguments look like from the outside, whether you like it or not.
ExpertShitposter ago
These problems internal to the race will be dealt with afterwards. Same as always throughout history.
Certainly not by banning radicals for being too radical.
Same shit in all Q subs. Same crowd.
Your 13,000 dont go to that subverse.
Cant find my favorite infographics on lemmings. But in any case, you should read siege if you haven't already. Tho its ideas might be outdated by now due to the internet.
Crensch ago
Oh, I agree.
That's a loss prevention strategy. Did you have one of those?
Nah. Some overlap but mostly very different kind of people.
They don't need to. I'm enough to ask the right questions to get you all to realize you don't have a leg to stand on when you pull out your megaphone and soapbox.
Analog ideas are usually fairly easy to translate to digital mediums. I don't know when I'll have time, but if I think about it, I'll definitely do that.
ExpertShitposter ago
or maybe they just speak differently when not covered by the veil of 100% true anonymity?
We should probably set aside 1h per day for reading old literature. Its interesting to see things from the perspective of a person who was actually a part of American Nazi party.
Crensch ago
That's a lot of credit you're giving to boomers.
I usually have plenty of time and mind to do so - when things are calm here. It would be interesting. GLR is one of my favourites.
heygeorge ago
@AR47
RockmanRaiden ago
I think 1 and 2 are equal presented with the context of the platform itself. At the discretion of proper modship, they should be able to ban anyone who's a disturbance to the public space. Like a pervert exposing himself in public. They would be removed from wherever they are.
heygeorge ago
They are objectively not the same. 1 puts the power in the hands of the individual. 2 puts the power in the hands of a gatekeeper.
They (1&2) also serve different purposes, though there is overlap.
How did you land at Voat? I am not here because I was banned from elsewhere. But I wager the case majority are.
RockmanRaiden ago
I wandered here from the r/conspiracy subreddit as McBitches.
heygeorge ago
So you weren’t censored. I have to imagine OP was censored elsewhere. But I forget his origin story after all this time.
Crensch ago
That's what everyone keeps telling me!
Yep!
I wasn't going to go there, but you're right!
If the sperg is threatening and spamming and going too far, you can block them, but they can make alts, and ping you, and ping your buddies, and clutter up your posts, and stalk your comments, and ping his buddies to you, and doxx you or spread your self-doxxed photos around trying to REALLY doxx you, or pretending to, but it's OK because it's a joke.
If a subverse bans you, you can remove it from your experience and...??? what happens? Nothing.
You did yourself no favors bringing that up.
Oh, her retaliation wasn't exactly like srayzie not letting go of when someone attacked her? Right. (((Chosen one))). Oh, wait, do I get to mock you for being cucked by her? Did she send you tit pics to try and hide the fact that she's an overemotional fronthole? Le white knight, heygeorge?
Srayzie made posts. Trigglypuff made a fucking subverse with a CSS altar to someone she was hypocritically attacking for... what?
Overreacting?
Kek. <---
Kek.
Kek.
That you think that shows that you still don't understand what I'm doing.
Does this surprise you, or something? They've put up with the mockery like fucking champs, when YOU couldn't handle when an overemotional girl accidentally grouped all of SBBH together as possibly going to attack GA. You whined like a little bitch over that, yet look at what happened? Not only did you prove her right, but you took her mistake like an emotional woman.
How do you square that circle?
I think you're close to something, but you don't even realize what it is, and the realization of it won't be fun. What you thought you were close to? Nope.
heygeorge ago
Yes. Nothing! Precisely this. The user is then banned from participating based on the whims of a gatekeeper.
Conflation of this concept with the inherent sitewide limitations of user blocking doesn’t change the above.
As for the rest of it, I wasn’t arguing with you (although you seem to want to argue). I was summarizing what I had taken the time to read. You’re not known for being succinct, after all.
I did notice you refer to srayz as ‘an overemotional girl’. Did srayz send you nudes?
Crensch ago
Aww, gee! Look at what it takes to overcome that! You know, versus overcoming the other.
You're going to have to be more clear.
Your summary was pretty much horseshit. Seemed more like a gauntlet thrown down that you're now trying to backpedal on.
Isn't that what you've all been hammering on her for? Triggly, in particular, harping on how srayzie is just a fronthole that couldn't handle the internet because vagina and emotions. But SBBH certainly supported, if not participated in, those attacks on srayzie while giving Triggly a pussy pass.
You were the first pussy with your response about srayzie's SBBH post. Then Triggly had to go and rub her hormone-slit all over a new subverse with hand-crafted CSS of another woman she was hurt by.
Did you guys call her out? Even once?
Nah. (((chosen ones)))
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heygeorge ago
Overcoming a ban? What does it take to overcome a ban?
User blocking and subverse moderation are not the same thing. See my reply elsewhere in thread to whatshisname.
Ok, I can tell you want to argue. I have no interest in that ATM.
I don’t recall ‘hammering on srayz for being an overemotional girl’. I did notice you refer to her in precisely that way, as I already said.
I don’t know why you expect me to be personally responsible for the behavior of others.
If this fighting keeps up I’m going to leave the site.
Crensch ago
Really?
I might stumble upon it. Not going to search it out.
Given what you know about me, how could you think your comment wasn't an invitation to engage in fisticuffs?
I still don't understand the significance of me paraphrasing a lot of what you guys have been saying. https://voat.co/v/SoapboxBanhammer/3238002/18794089 https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3251633/18927399
I don't know why you expect others to not hold your group responsible for the actions of its members. Even as a Freudian Slip. Because you define your group as "not a group"? You have shitposters that are held to zero rules, and everyone is supposed to just play along that everything you say is a joke when so many don't keep their "art" of dishonestly and lying within the confines of the subverse.
What method are we to use to determine when someone is being serious or not?
It's going to. I do think you're one of the good ones, but what you stand for currently allowed zyklon to progress unfettered, and almost every action made by those in SBBH was an escalation to absurdity. I'll have nothing to do with a system that rewards such a thing while fettering mods that just want to remove that kind of shit.
Either way, it was a good run.
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heygeorge ago
What do you think of the subverse I’m intending to create?
I’ve actually been meaning to get your input on it, but it didn’t seem like the right time. Now does. The only thing I’ve started so far is the sidebar.
v/BigRule
Crensch ago
Fucking love it.
Crensch ago
Oh, and @Expertshitposter REEEEEEEEEEEEEEd, too. "Muh SBBH attack we must defend!" "SRAYZIE NO DEFEND IS EMOTIONAL GIRL"
Kek.
Here you go, @heygeorge.
Why u guize taking innernetz so srsly?
And why are you such massive hypocrites?
ExpertShitposter ago
There's noting reeeee about that post. Its a calm and thruthful explanation of things to a retarded q boomer with one too many layers of tin foil on her head.
Rotteuxx ago
I read his convo with @Sguevar in this thread and imo anyone can tell that @Crensch is in an obsessive "me vs the world" mind set.
Sguevar is trying to come at it from a 3rd person point of view but Crensch keeps lobbing him into the only camp he recognizes besides his own. His replies are combative and no concessions are made in the spirit of reasonable dialogue with someone uninvolved in the axe grinding.
Aw well, waiting to find out how horrifyingly inconsistent I am and all that bad stuff. It's free !
ExpertShitposter ago
Watch him just simply attach a "reeeeeeeeeeeeee" to anything you say. Its easier than looking in the mirror.
CerealBrain ago
Nobody gives a fuck what you think. You suck Zyklon cock.