As you may know, QAnon dropped a whole bunch of pizzagate related pictures and questions yesterday, centered around Epstein sex slave turned photographer and model agency operator Rachel Chandler, whom we have researched the crap out of several times over the past two+ years. Well, we had a number of additional submissions across the Q subverses and v/pizzagate in the past 24 hours, and folks have been scouring the archives. They came up with this: an insider drop from a user claiming to be a high school friend of Chandler, loaded with juicy tidbits.
Here's the fucky thing. That post was deleted within two minutes of being posted, yet it has over 47,000 views. How is that possible?
It's an excellent post and should not have been removed by any mod. It was made November 25, 2016, two days after the v/pizzagate migration from Reddit. Mods at that time were not organized with a ruleset for deleting posts and there is no removal comment. Yet the post doesn't say [Deleted by User] like it usually does for self-removals.
This was highly valuable information that was whisked off the board as fast as it appeared. And somehow, it managed to get 47,000 views! I don't get it. Is there a way to see how many views it got in the last 24 hours? Is Voat getting this much traffic from Qresearch, now? What's happening, here?
@SearchVoat @MadWorld @Peaceseeker @PuttItOut
Vindicator ago
I found another Chandler post that was also deleted by the submitter. It was posted 12/3/2016 and all the comments are on the same day. No archive was made (until me, just now). It looks like it was a Link submission to an archive.org copy of an Imgur album. According to SearchVoat, the post was titled "Epstein Lolita Island Rachel Chandler Pictures." Looks tantalizing.
Anyone have any ideas how to find what it was originally linked to?
@srayzie @Nomochomo @New4now @MadWorld
srayzie ago
Good job Vindicator!
NOMOCHOMO ago
@vindicator this was the original Twitter account to post the pics (account suspended)
https://mobile.twitter.com/0hour1___
TheDonald user also references this account tweeting about the Edge Billionaires Dinner that epstein, laybournes, and Bezos attended
Vindicator ago
Zero Hour, huh? I followed him early on, through several accounts. Not sure what has become of him. Have not seen him in a while.
NOMOCHOMO ago
He's been suspended from twitter
NOMOCHOMO ago
@vindicator found it
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/x8PM1
From a comment linked on:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5bbe7r/bill_clinton_with_his_underage_girlfriend_rachel/
Vindicator ago
Well done, NOMO! I thought you might be able to dig that up. :-) Have you seen these before? I sure as heck haven't.
NOMOCHOMO ago
@new4now @think- @srayzie @shewhomusbeobeyed @letsdothis3
https://www.einpresswire.com/article/103624577/world-s-smartest-think-tank-gets-substantial-backing-from-the-jeffrey-epstein-vi-foundation
letsdothis3 ago
If you read up about John Brockman, there's very little about his background but what information there is has all the connections to the CIA and the IG Farben network of corporations that exist to this day...
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2005/apr/30/featuresreviews.guardianreview25
The Monkees, you say?
Head (film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_(film)
The Monkees were a CIA construct http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2017/04/the-monkees-michael-nesmith-davy-jones.html
More about John Brockman here: The Net: The Unabomber, LSD and the Internet
See this post which links the Open Souce movement to Dyncorp, the company Epstein is believed to be working for: On the Sunlight Foundation, the Open Source and Open Government movements and the co-option of Counter Culture
letsdothis3 ago
Here's a bit more information about his foundation : https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2563101/12868562
letsdothis3 ago
That's an excellent find @NOMOCHOMO. I knew about some of those names but not all https://www.edge.org/the-billionaires-dinner
https://www.edge.org/about-edgeorg
In other words, it's an organisation for aetheists and material scientists. Screw ethics and philosophy.
We already know about the Bloomsbury Group (so called intellectuals with a generous sprinkling of government spooks and associations with the UK's child protection services) : here
Coincidentally I looked up the Lunar Society of Birmingham yesterday because of a story to do with Prince Harry and Sparkles : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Society_of_Birmingham
In the UK the sky is often overcast during a full moon so I don't really believe that explanation. Anyhoo..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soho_House
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Piers_Watt_Boulton
That would be the Johnston family. The current owner is Nicholas Johnston, friend of David Cameron and the rest of the Chipping Norton set.
https://www.ft.com/content/33387254-709b-11e8-92d3-6c13e5c92914
The Great Tew estate is where Harry and Sparkles rented a cottage https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6583115/Welcome-Harry-Meghans-royal-love-nest.html Apparently, they will be giving up the lease on the place at the end of March.. Rumour has it, that's where the surrogate is holed up. Lol... But an interesting set of connections.
srayzie ago
Wow, good find!
NOMOCHOMO ago
https://afflictor.com/2017/11/20/how-many-members-of-the-think-tank-know-about-epsteins-continued-participation/
https://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/krauss06/krauss06.2_index.html
https://www.pr.com/press-release/401973
https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=4660
NOMOCHOMO ago
http://jeffrey-epstein-edge-foundation.blogspot.com/2010/12/jeffrey-epstein-donates-to-edge-group.html?m=1
NOMOCHOMO ago
https://jeffreyepsteinsciences.wordpress.com
NOMOCHOMO ago
Nope, and I'm now especially intrigued by the Edge Billionaires dinner which we now know Jeffery Katzenberg also attended.
I'm trying to find the original photo referenced which shows john Brockman (founder of edge) with a young girl (possibly chandler) on Epstein's island
NOMOCHOMO ago
A reverse image search of the thumbnail is all I can think of atm
new4now ago
Will help as soon as I can
Vindicator ago
Nomo found the album!
SearchVoat ago
If you put "epstein island site:imgur.com" into DDG it's the third result.
darkknight111 ago
I think this incident could be my fault.
I copy pastaed the url for the search voat hits for Rachel Chandler to 8 chan on Wednesday night as part of general info sharing. The post was not a notable.
Here’s the kicker. I wasn’t involved with v/pizzagate until March 2017, so I had no idea said post existed.
Vindicator ago
"Fault"? :-) It's a GOOD thing! Keep doing it!
I did it, too, btw.
think- ago
Which incident do you mean? The amazing number of views?
darkknight111 ago
Possibly. I don’t know. All I know was that I posted the search voat link on wednesday night, so this bizzare incident could have been partially caused by me.
think- ago
I see.
PuttItOut ago
I looked at this and it is a user deletion (no mod log entry and we always kept mod log entries since the beginning).
Vindicator ago
Really? Oh, wow! So it was only up a couple of days after all. Thank you for confirming this!
Any idea why it doesn't say Deleted by author on the thread?
PuttItOut ago
Code changed since then that's why, but this is 100% deleted by author.
Vindicator ago
Thank you for the clarification :-)
think- ago
Thank you.
@Crensch @kevdude @MadWorld @PeaceSeeker
think- ago
I remember reading about him. So maybe he was the one who deleted the post.
@Kevdude
think- ago
Thanks.
think- ago
On a side note:
This is a post that was listed in one of the searchvoat.co results you posted below, Vindicator.
I've never seen this email. But it seems to be significant, since it is a bit odd when you read the exchange as meaning literally pizza, not 'pizza'.
And guess what? I get a 'internal server error' message when trying to access the email on Wikileaks.
@Srayzie @EricKaliberhall @MolochHunter @Shizy @shewhomustbeobeyed
think- ago
@kestrel9 @SandHog @ASolo @darkknight111 @letsdothis3
Vindicator ago
Why are you pinging everyone to this submission? You should make a separate submission about that email in the appropriate subverse, v/pizzagate. :-(
think- ago
Sorry, what's wrong with pinging legit users to this submission? I don't expect them to discuss this here anyway.
Do you want me to delete my comment?
think- ago
Well, I'm glad that post turned up. It's the first about Rachel Chandler on v/pizzagate; then a month later or so, @srayzie did another one.
MadWorld ago
Record off the archive:
That is a ton of views recently!
Vindicator ago
Why didn't I think to look at archiv.fo? Thank you!
The April dates from last year when the view count popped from 1163 to 19,149 over two days coincide with the previous QAnon Rachel Chandler drop digging. Could that have caused the server problems that took Voat offline for three days right afterward?
The insane explosion of an additional 30,000 views in the past two days coincides with QAnon's latest drop naming Chandler as a child trafficker for the rich and famous and probably the Jane Doe that is trying to keep the Epstein trial documents sealed.
Q came right out on 3-20 and said they were not just prostituting kids on pedo island, they were ritually torturing them in an underground dungeon there (Chandler had security cam pics of it on her Instagram).
He also said that if the Epstein trial records are unsealed, it will link back to Mueller and Comey through Nick Lewin, a top federal prosecutor who is one of the attorneys trying keep them sealed, and October 2, 2017 went into private defense practice with two other SDNY prosecutors, according to this pdf from Above the Law. They say,
This could be REALLY BIG. When I read the above bio, it seems clear as day we're looking at a Cabal gatekeeper. And given his resume, he's probably responsible for covering up whatever the truth is about 9-11. He went from prosecutor gatekeeper to defense gatekeeper just a couple of weeks before QAnon showed up on /pol/ and started discussing indictments against Hillary and the Podestas.
QAnon keeps saying "You have more than you know." I would really like to see who deleted this Chandler post and what else they removed!
@Peaceseeker @Crensch @Cynabuns @srayzie @MolochHunter
think- ago
Maybe it would be worthwhile to go back to the deleted submissions log, and see what other significant submissions got deleted?
Who was on the initial mod team in the first days of the v/pizzagate sub?
@Crensch @Kevdude
Vindicator ago
Just posted my dig into this below in another comment.
https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3112023/17570625
@Kevdude
Crensch ago
You'll have to go back through the archives of pizzagate submissions. The only one that ever stood out to me back then was MF.
think- ago
Ah, good idea. Thanks.
Crensch ago
wecanhelp and numbchuck i think
think- ago
Thanks. numbchuck seems to have been the mod who later went rogue, and randomly deleted submissions.
Crensch ago
That definitely happened.
srayzie ago
You’ve really got me curious now
Cynabuns ago
Question, perhaps just aloud or a wondering if you will...
Why and by whom was a deleted post archived so many times?
Vindicator ago
That's an excellent question. Just pinged you to some contextual information that might shed light on that.
It kind of looks to me like someone has been archiving it during high traffic times to track the change in page views (the only thing that changes after Voat archives the submission in the sidebar). However, with thousands of autistic anons trying to preserve information on Clinton corruption, it could just be organic. A few decided a fresh copy was worth saving.
MolochHunter ago
we have some kind of shadow community
@srayzie did someone tip you off to this link/post or did you come across it in organic search mode ?
think- ago
Yes, I haven't seen it being linked by any of the Rachel Chandler posts that were submitted yesterday. Or did I miss that?
?
Do actually so many people use searchvoat.co, looking for archived submissions on a topic?
Vindicator ago
Apparently, they do. QAnon recently said they are reaching 20 million people now worldwide when they talk about stuff like Epstein Island.
I occasionally drop links to SearchVoat searches on 8chan and in threads on v/GA and v/QRV, so word is getting out. I also occasionally tweet them.
srayzie ago
It’s going around on Twitter. Here’s one...
https://twitter.com/Matt_the_Hulk/status/1108919766402719745?s=20
srayzie ago
@Crensch @Vindicator
Vindicator ago
Interesting, thanks.
Vindicator ago
@Crensch...we've got a sleeper/ghost [O] whose original provenance has always been sketchy. He created v/pizzagate on 11/13/2016, the same day he created his account, but has no submissions whatsoever until 11/23/2016, the day of the Reddit ban. He's been a complete ghost for a year and a half. There was a lot of suspicion at beginning the v/pizzagate was a deliberately created limited hangout where information could be controlled. What if he's the one who suppressed this information?
The first three posts to the sub, made within a very short time of it's creation, were by a user named @pedokiller. He was only active for that day, and then he became a ghost, too.
WTF is going on, here?
letsdothis3 ago
Lol.
Vindicator ago
?
letsdothis3 ago
Don't worry. I'm in an odd mood today. Think I need to head outside for a bit.
Vindicator ago
This post was first archived 19 days after it was made. The sidebar shows these mods in place at that point in time, including Numbchuck, the sleeper shill mod who went rogue 12/31/2016 and was caught and stopped by Kevdude.
Digging a bit more, I discovered KKWW was the one who created the Pizzagate chat room on Riot, in which numerous users were doxxed, including several of the really major early pizzagate researchers such as PleadingtheYiff and mod abortionburger.
He also was the one who added rogue mod numbchuck, who may also be @numbcuck, who is apparently a tranny lover pushing submissions on all of the classic shill memes.
That's a lot of suspicious accounts associated with the creation and early days of v/pizzagate. It makes me wonder if the origin of the "v/pizzagate is a limited hangout/honeypot" shill meme might actually be true: Did they create it to be one, but we foiled their efforts?
Weirdly, the creator of the original pizzagate board on Reddit (whom I have spoken with quite a bit over the years and consider reliable) says that KKWW approached him the week before the sub was banned in his detailed piece on how Pizzagate started:
I was told separately by both PleadingtheYiff and Pizzathrowaway777 that the reason he and the other original mod/researchers from r/pizzagate left Voat was because KKWW refused to make any of them O's once they brought everyone to v/pizzagate, despite him saying he wanted to hand off the sub to them prior to the Reddit ban. Once they were doxxed, they felt Voat wasn't safe, and went on to create Disobedient Media, much as srayzie went on to make her own sub. RebelSkum, one of our other all time great researchers, also worked closely with them. Here's r/pizzagate mod @sigmawarrior discussing his concerns about KKWW back then.
Shizy ago
This all sounds eerily similar to what's been happening with v/GreatAwakening, and the attempts at infiltrating.
think- ago
Interesting. I always thought they were doxxed in a Discord chatroom.
Hmm.
That would make no sense though. Why approach someone who I understand was legit, and asking him to take over the v/pizzagate sub, when he was a limited hangout?
If KKWW was compromised (mere hypothesis) and knew Reddit would ban r/pizzagate, why make sure that there was a Voat sub where people could continue? Why create v/pizzagate in the first place?
Vindicator ago
He offered to hand it over so they would migrate here, but then didn't hand it over when they came.
So they could gain control without it looking that way. That's the definition of a limited hangout.
I believe @srayzie was approached by BuilderAnon in a very similar fashion to the way KKWW approached @pizzagatethrowaway777.
think- ago
Well, that's a convincing hypothesis I guess.
WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago
As I understand it, when a post shows the author as [deleted] it is because the submitter deleted their profile and on the account deletion page they elected to Anonymize the content they submitted.
If it had been deleted by a moderator then it would show up in the mod log. It's too bad the v/pizzagate mods are such butthurt censoring tyrants that the 20 pages of mod logs only goes back 8 months. You all played yourselves.
Vindicator ago
Except it doesn't say Deleted by Author.
WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago
I know that's what it says when the author deletes a post but the account stays active. I don't think it says that when the author deletes their account but does not delete all their posts and comments.
think- ago
When an author deletes their account, but chooses not to delete his submissions, ususally the post doesn't show a title anymore (as it does in this case), but instead of the headline you see a 'Account deleted by user'. That's why nobody here thought the author might have deleted the post.
@PuttItOut
Vindicator ago
Pretty sure a tombstone icon goes on their profile page when they delete their account.
Vindicator ago
This is an idiotic comment. A) I'm the mod of v/pizzagate, and I'm the one drawing attention to the removal. B) Mods have no control over how many pages of Removed Submissions shows up.
new4now ago
Remember after we went down for 3 days, my post history only went back 8 months
Vindicator ago
Comments only show 6 months to other people. I think they show more than that to the user.
new4now ago
I gave up on comments, I talk too much :)
WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago
All the mod log cap at 20 pages everywhere. Mods have total control over how far back that log goes because every new entry they add to the mod log bumps the oldest one off. Did you dipshits really never consider that in all your zeal to control and curate the sub you could end up destroying some information that might turn out to have been useful at some point down the road? Did you think that the only reason voat is a free speech website is because people wanted to say nigger without getting in trouble?
Now you want to kiss putt's ass in the hopes that the information even exists, and that he is willing to spend his time to dig this up for you, when the only reason you don't have it anymore is because you reject the foundational principle of the site. Those 20 pages represent 500 posts that you removed, but it only goes back 8 MONTHS! The information you're requesting is a direct consequence of you and your mod team not being able to let go of probably 1,000+ petty inconsequential infractions of totally unnecessary rules. Why would putt or atko ever care to store more than 500 records of you guys deleting submissions for petty bullshit?
Your mod log looks like more than half the removals are due to formatting rules. The only reason you don't have this information right now is literally because you make people paste the URL in the body of their post instead of just submitting a link, how fucking retarded do you feel? What was the point, did you all get off on the censorship power trip? You played yourself. I hope you learn from this.
Vindicator ago
There's a link to the community discussion that led to the "No Share a Link Submissions" policy right in the sidebar of v/pizzagate (where it's been since the institution of the rule). Link posts don't allow users to edit and thus take advantage of our 24 Hour Grace flair preventing the vast majority of removals, or explain the pizzagate connection as required by our primary submission rule. In addition, child porn was direct-linked and our users were pissed about it.
MolochHunter ago
oh ptttthhhhh you expect the mods to leave all the garbage and disinfo posts up there in consideration of a 20 page limit ? GTFO
its easy to see that would be waaaay back in the queue of considerations compared to making the sub relevant and useful for day to day users
you in Bad Faith, a-hole
Crensch ago
@Puttitout
Is there any chance of you letting us know who deleted this? It might be pretty important to note.
Crensch ago
Actually, is there a way that the modlogs (or at least PG) could show all the deletions?
think- ago
They should show all deletions by mods. Did you check whether this one shows up in the PG modlog?
@Vindicator
Crensch ago
I definitely did. Limited to 19 pages.
think- ago
Ah, it is limited to 19 pages. Damn.
@PuttItOut @PeaceSeeker @MadWorld - any way we could change that? So that the modlog entries of the past years will also be accessible? Thanks!
Vindicator ago
@srayzie @Crensch FYI
Crensch ago
JFC it looks like someone we had on the mod team knew.
What the everloving fuck.
Made a comment asking putt about it.
Posted by: https://voat.co/u/ChadwickGrad/submissions
Vindicator ago
Is this a bad time for me to mention that the last time we did a big dig on Rachel Chandler, Voat went offline for three days?
MolochHunter ago
@Crensch
I woudnt be so certain of the 'compromised' angle
this could be white hats who knew the Ray Chandler aspect should be kept contained for when te curtain was ready to be pulled
think- ago
I don't understand. Why pull the post in the first place then?
Vindicator ago
That's an interesting idea. That would be censorship, though, and ought to be investigated.
MolochHunter ago
lol you think Q only came upon that cache of Chandler digs a couple of days ago
strategic release
Vindicator ago
I agree completely.
Putt has confirmed the Chandler high school pal leak was self-deleted within 24 hours. Which made me wonder...why would some Brentwood Barbie come on Voat to dish on her illustrious fellow alumnus? She said,
Rachel graduated in June 2005 from Brentwood School, a pretty elite prep school on the Westside of LA. I attended the school with her..."
Riiiiight. There are probably dozens of Brentwood alumni who followed pizzagate during the election. Suuuuure!
Whoever this user was, I'd bet my left nut they were a Q Team leaker like FBIAnon, pedokiller, alphabravo and IamQ. They made the account to make the post, left it up long enough for people to see, and then self-deleted it.
Could have been whitehats DDoSing Voat, too, to force Putt to remove the Search feature so we couldn't dig this stuff up before they were ready for it to spread.
Brentwood Barbie/Ken Anon also says:
Uh huh. Chandler was supposedly 19 -- right out of high school at NYU when Gawker posted it in 2006. (She says she graduated high school in 2005). Have you met teenage girls? That picture would have been all over everyone's Facebook or MySpace or whatever was hot in 2006. There's no way a friend from high school wouldn't have seen it at the time. Even if it's Brentwood Ken, he'd have known his classmate was on Burkle's jet with Clinton.
Just rereading that post with a keener eye again...check this out:
"So, Rachel is definitely a part of the LA-based Hollywood/media elite. She's not some runaway or kidnapped kid or anything like that like some have theorized. She's probably the most powerful scion of one of the most powerful families in Southern California."
Rich kids don't talk like this about their peers. This is the voice of an outsider talking. And there a slip-up, here too:
"I can tell you that during her teenage years she knew A LOT of celebrities, media industry insiders, and was going to a lot of parties that most kids at her school and in our social circles (who were pretty well-connected and very wealthy themselves) could never gain access to."
Her school? I thought it was their school? And listen again to this:
"There's a tangential Rothschilds connection here, by the way, because Nicky Hilton ended up marrying James Rothschild and Rachel used to party with all of them."
A "tangential Rothschilds connection"? Does that sound like a rich kid talking, or an outsider? If this person graduated around 2005, eleven years prior to the submission, they would be around 28 or 29 years old. What twenty year old would be talking about Rothschilds in November 2016? And how about this:
"One thing you guys have missed is that she has a much deeper connection to the occult artist Marina Abramovic than I've seen documented so far."
"You guys" (not a truther). "The occult artist" (not an elite art officianado, like AreWeSure who critiques us frequently for this claim).
And don't forget the outsider greeting: "Hey /Pizzagate,"
No, this was a whitehat feeding us information.
@srayzie @Crensch
MolochHunter ago
lololol
Ken/BarbieAnon
srayzie ago
I thought the same thing. It didn’t seem like something a rich young peer would say. This is really interesting
Vindicator ago
It is, isn't it! :-)
srayzie ago
I know!