Can someone shed light on this weird Pizzagate deletion? (ProtectVoat)

submitted ago by Vindicator

As you may know, QAnon dropped a whole bunch of pizzagate related pictures and questions yesterday, centered around Epstein sex slave turned photographer and model agency operator Rachel Chandler, whom we have researched the crap out of several times over the past two+ years. Well, we had a number of additional submissions across the Q subverses and v/pizzagate in the past 24 hours, and folks have been scouring the archives. They came up with this: an insider drop from a user claiming to be a high school friend of Chandler, loaded with juicy tidbits.

Here's the fucky thing. That post was deleted within two minutes of being posted, yet it has over 47,000 views. How is that possible?

It's an excellent post and should not have been removed by any mod. It was made November 25, 2016, two days after the v/pizzagate migration from Reddit. Mods at that time were not organized with a ruleset for deleting posts and there is no removal comment. Yet the post doesn't say [Deleted by User] like it usually does for self-removals.

This was highly valuable information that was whisked off the board as fast as it appeared. And somehow, it managed to get 47,000 views! I don't get it. Is there a way to see how many views it got in the last 24 hours? Is Voat getting this much traffic from Qresearch, now? What's happening, here?

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Vindicator ago

@Crensch...we've got a sleeper/ghost [O] whose original provenance has always been sketchy. He created v/pizzagate on 11/13/2016, the same day he created his account, but has no submissions whatsoever until 11/23/2016, the day of the Reddit ban. He's been a complete ghost for a year and a half. There was a lot of suspicion at beginning the v/pizzagate was a deliberately created limited hangout where information could be controlled. What if he's the one who suppressed this information?

The first three posts to the sub, made within a very short time of it's creation, were by a user named @pedokiller. He was only active for that day, and then he became a ghost, too.

WTF is going on, here?

Vindicator ago

This post was first archived 19 days after it was made. The sidebar shows these mods in place at that point in time, including Numbchuck, the sleeper shill mod who went rogue 12/31/2016 and was caught and stopped by Kevdude.

Digging a bit more, I discovered KKWW was the one who created the Pizzagate chat room on Riot, in which numerous users were doxxed, including several of the really major early pizzagate researchers such as PleadingtheYiff and mod abortionburger.

He also was the one who added rogue mod numbchuck, who may also be @numbcuck, who is apparently a tranny lover pushing submissions on all of the classic shill memes.

That's a lot of suspicious accounts associated with the creation and early days of v/pizzagate. It makes me wonder if the origin of the "v/pizzagate is a limited hangout/honeypot" shill meme might actually be true: Did they create it to be one, but we foiled their efforts?

Weirdly, the creator of the original pizzagate board on Reddit (whom I have spoken with quite a bit over the years and consider reliable) says that KKWW approached him the week before the sub was banned in his detailed piece on how Pizzagate started:

A week or so prior I had been contacted by the creator of /v/Pizzagate on Voat about taking over this subverse, because he no longer wished to be responsible for moderating it. At the time moderating /r/Pizzagate on Reddit was already so time consuming and overwhelming that I turned the offer down. With such short notice, being aware /v/Pizzagate already existed, as well as being aware of the fact that Reddit had turned into a complete shithole over the years, and that numerous other subreddits I never really cared for in the past had moved to Voat for free speech after being banned from Reddit. I decided Voat was the best plan of continuation of the Pizzagate investigation.

I was told separately by both PleadingtheYiff and Pizzathrowaway777 that the reason he and the other original mod/researchers from r/pizzagate left Voat was because KKWW refused to make any of them O's once they brought everyone to v/pizzagate, despite him saying he wanted to hand off the sub to them prior to the Reddit ban. Once they were doxxed, they felt Voat wasn't safe, and went on to create Disobedient Media, much as srayzie went on to make her own sub. RebelSkum, one of our other all time great researchers, also worked closely with them. Here's r/pizzagate mod @sigmawarrior discussing his concerns about KKWW back then.

Shizy ago

This all sounds eerily similar to what's been happening with v/GreatAwakening, and the attempts at infiltrating.

think- ago

Digging a bit more, I discovered KKWW was the one who created the Pizzagate chat room on Riot, in which numerous users were doxxed, including several of the really major early pizzagate researchers such as PleadingtheYiff and mod abortionburger.

Interesting. I always thought they were doxxed in a Discord chatroom.

It makes me wonder if the origin of the "v/pizzagate is a limited hangout/honeypot" shill meme might actually be true: Did they create it to be one, but we foiled their efforts?

Hmm.

that KKWW approached him the week before the sub was banned in his detailed piece on how Pizzagate started

That would make no sense though. Why approach someone who I understand was legit, and asking him to take over the v/pizzagate sub, when he was a limited hangout?

If KKWW was compromised (mere hypothesis) and knew Reddit would ban r/pizzagate, why make sure that there was a Voat sub where people could continue? Why create v/pizzagate in the first place?

Vindicator ago

That would make no sense though. Why approach someone who I understand was legit, and asking him to take over the v/pizzagate sub, when he was a limited hangout?

He offered to hand it over so they would migrate here, but then didn't hand it over when they came.

If KKWW was compromised (mere hypothesis) and knew Reddit would ban r/pizzagate, why make sure that there was a Voat sub where people could continue? Why create v/pizzagate in the first place?

So they could gain control without it looking that way. That's the definition of a limited hangout.

  1. Create active, helpful username that becomes familiar to mods on Reddit
  2. Helpful username makes subverse on Voat
  3. Several weeks later, ban sub with non-comped mods from Reddit
  4. In the ensuing chaos, put forward different helpful username to volunteer as mod and mod him
  5. Refuse to mod the experienced mod team who has the most comprehensive shill-spotting view
  6. Create helpful shill busting account to attack members of original mod team and original researchers as shills (ArmySeer, v/PizzagateShills) and try to get them banned or pissed enough to leave
  7. Monitor submissions, undermining them in Comments or removing them
  8. Use intel gained to target slim.g, kek.gg, Facebook, Instagram etc. with DMCA Takedown Requests
  9. Use intel gained to attack Voat's web host and credit card processing (probably with DMCA Takedown Requests)

I believe @srayzie was approached by BuilderAnon in a very similar fashion to the way KKWW approached @pizzagatethrowaway777.

think- ago

Well, that's a convincing hypothesis I guess.