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shadow332 ago

I got banned for posting in your thread as well.. @heygeorge, @MadWorld, read @kobold's completely unsuspicious and benign response to me simply mentioning his post history. Wouldn't you totally respond like that if you were up to nothing? Haha seems he learned from the same school as @bfwilley.

kobold ago

fuck you shill

kneo24 ago

Why is your lot interested in making "no u" statements and completely diverting away from the issue at hand?

kobold ago

my only issue is that asshole332 came into my thread and started insulting me and all the other people there. that and wasting my time with your 'concerns'. ysk i am not here to push your agendas , ideas or whatever you are after.

kneo24 ago

If you felt it was a waste of time, you wouldn't have responded at all, unless you're some complete retard who doesn't understand the value of their own time.

sguevar ago

Serious questions:

  • Why do you prefer to give the direct link to the site you are sharing instead of archiving the link?

  • Why is it a problem to even considering archiving the site?

  • Why do you result in a continuous insults to address the questions being asked?

kobold ago

  • who are you?

  • why do you care?

  • what gives you the idea that i own you any answers?

looking forward to hear from you, best regards

sguevar ago

So your reply to my questions were a diversion.

  • I am sguevar, I think you can look at my posting history if you want to know more about me.

  • I am trying to understand why you are so unwilling to archive the links you share on here as it seems you take personally that you are being called out for posting those links in the first place.

  • I am actually trying to see if one can argue any reasonable doubt on your intentions and help with the accusation that other users are doing of you.

I am still waiting for your answers but doubt you will give them since you showed to be dismissive already, oh well...

kobold ago

why do you care about me being accused?

and again, why do you care about archiving and why should i care about it?

sguevar ago

why do you care about me being accused?

I care about defending users (any for that matter) if there is reasonable doubt to defend them.

why do you care about archiving and why should i care about it?

Because of data mining.

As you know Voat or sites like it premise anonymity as one way to defend Freedom of Speech and as you can understand because you are here, the majority of views that users express here are frowned upon in the outside world.

Sites like the ones that you share, promote the data mining of such users that would like otherwise to remain anonymous to the world so they don't feel persecuted for expressing their views that are considered politically incorrect and within the legal boundaries of the law. Of course in this site you will see the same type of behavior by certain groups but you will still be able to post and express yourself. Even when some argue that is a lie, they are still posting here and expressing their discomfort about the site with no major repercussions.

I am actually amazed that you do not care about it because of the fact that those sites could mine your clicks, and so on and so forth. And even if it seems like a small detail, through that mining they are able to promote adds for certain things and also track the activity of said users. How do you think that FB is able to do studies of the manipulation of their members emotional status so effectively, for example?

I find the concerns of @shadow332 and @kneo24 reasonable and justifiable. I find your lack of interest concerning however I want to see if there is a possibility to argue reasonable doubt on your favour and hence reason with you to let you understand why we have such a problem with this.

On my personal level, I really don't care if I ever get doxxed. But I do defend the right to privacy of the rest of the community if they so want to defend it. As well as I would defend any user if he/she is falsely accused or accused of an intention they might not have had.

Still waiting on your replies, so far you have been diverting and this to my eye, even if you don't care about it, doesn't look good and may be used against you as a proof of their accusations towards you.

kobold ago

sorry, too much kafka for me, this conversation is over. in your place i would worry about yourselves, look in the mirror sometimes, and mind your own business before interfereing with others.

your buddy shadow is an asshole, he gets nothing but abuse from me for how he behaved in my thread:

https://voat.co/v/politics/3057904/16991176 <-unprovoked insult

https://voat.co/v/politics/3057904/16991508

https://voat.co/v/politics/3057904/17005678 <- a lie

https://voat.co/v/politics/3057904/16993355 <- unprovoked insult

sguevar ago

sorry, too much kafka for me, this conversation is over. in your place i would worry about yourselves, look in the mirror sometimes, and mind your own business before interfereing with others.

If your actions endanger the community don't expect us to.

your buddy shadow is an asshole, he gets nothing but abuse from me for how he behaved in my thread:

His approach can be different than mine but you are no better when addressing counter arguments, not only you show dismissals and diversions as your defence but you also use more insults than they do. I mean I even read their replies.

Thanks for proving them right.

kobold ago

endanger

i have an idea: get on tor you guys, if its good enough for drug dealers it will be good enough for you too. hopefully, it will make you less paranoid

sguevar ago

Research about data mining son šŸ˜‰

shadow332 ago

@sguevar, I hope @kobold has now convinced you of his non-site-shilling innocence, by:

  • never addressing why he doesn't archive

  • using baseless namecalling

  • calling you paranoid

  • talking about some random youtube videos you posted which have nothing to with shilling for greenmedinfo

  • telling you it's too kafkaesque when you calmly and clearly laid out all of your arguments.

Although I'm going to be honest here, after grilling him a bit and reading all of his replies to everyone, he just seems like a complete loser and not someone actually pushing a specific site. The other (bigger and more post prolific) accounts just ignore us when we point this out; this guy just comes off as massive retard. What got me is the complete misuse of Kafka. :-)

kobold ago

fuck off asshole322

shadow332 ago

Lol, hope you're not spamming some site with your alts. I'll be watching you now, you little genius. XD

kobold ago

i care a lot /s

idiot.

sguevar ago

LMAO... Yes in all of his answers and evansions he did proved to be exactly what you claim here.

Sadly, I extended my help but was rejected due to lack of objectivity. Either way thanks for the work you guys put on here.

shadow332 ago

No problem, I loved reading your exchange btw. You phrased everything so well and he just stumbled and faltered over himself. Great stuff!

sguevar ago

Well I think that while others have a more direct and bold approach, I could have a more subtle yet not cucked one.

Some like it some don't, such is life (shrug) XD

kobold ago

you are posting youtube links in your costa rica sub, dad

sguevar ago

True, I still have to learn to upload on invidio

kobold ago

and nyt and bbc...

sguevar ago

I believe I have apologized on each of those postings and it is not a frequent activity I do like yourself.

You have try harder if you want to show anything here. Have anything else?

kobold ago

peace

sguevar ago

Have a good one son.

Chempergrill ago

I posted. I got banned :)

heygeorge ago

I presume you were not civil? Iā€™m really hoping that u/bfwilley will elucidate me on how he views civility.

Chempergrill ago

Of course I wasn't :)

MadWorld ago

Was just about to make a submission here. The snake shows its tail... I cannot remember if I have ever crossed his subverses or interacted under his subverses. And I got a banned too XD.

This:

v/TheRealEnvironment (Bfwilley) > MadWorld | Sent: 50 minutes ago on 2/26/2019 1:51:02 AM

You've been banned from v/TheRealEnvironment :(

and this:

@Bfwilley has banned you from v/TheRealEnvironment for the following reason: Rule Violation in v/TheRealEnvironment: Rule #1

v/FreePoliticalDisc (Bfwilley) > MadWorld | Sent: 52 minutes ago on 2/26/2019 1:49:33 AM

You've been banned from v/FreePoliticalDisc :(

@Bfwilley has banned you from v/FreePoliticalDisc for the following reason: Rule Violation in v/FreePoliticalDisc: First thing to remember.

It probably has more to do with @shadow332's report or another one of those submissions that called him out.

sguevar ago

To me I am amazed that you got banned for Rule #1 because you are one of the most civil people I have met here. Just because of that I do distrust the Mod, but I do clarify that his rules are clear. Nothing more to it.

I am not interested in his subverses at all.

heygeorge ago

@bfwilley see above. @MadWorld is a civil and kind person