You may want to seek help for that paranoid schizophrenia. Don't know who 'Kobold' is but I've used this nome de plume since 2006, you can verify me on most other major social networks including Reddit. Fucking lunatic.
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Instead of getting angry, why don't you just archive some of your posts, so it doesn't look like you are pushing traffic for those sites? Is that so hard? Use archive.is.
As if somehow that's an argumentative statement, especially when it's not followed by anything to substantiate it.
le insect
Again, see above.
At no point did they attempt to address anything you wrote. I've long stopped caring if I wrangle up normal users anymore. They need to learn to acting like the enemy is not okay.
@kneo24, you were the one who made me all aware of this. I remember a few months ago, you made a post like: "why are there always the same people on the front page?" My name was one of the ones you pinged (i.e. one of the guilty). I started looking at who consistently hits the front page and started reading the posts about it on protectvoat. I started watching these accounts more carefully. None of these people are archiving anything. None of these people make discussion posts. You'll find they post direct tracking links/referral links.
My pointing out @kobold's submission history has zero to do with whether I support big pharma (which I personally don't but that's irrelevant). Notice he doesn't respond to my suggestion to archive.
But since the q invasion (perhaps ealier?), there have been a lot of changes on voat, and it's not for the better. I still have a general idea of who the real users are here, but you'll notice the system subs are starting to get more and more of a plebbit feel to them as time passes.
I remember. I have no problems admitting to snagging a few innocent people along the way, but like I said, I've long stopped caring about whether or not I do. It's good to see that at least you're being aware and looking into to it. I just don't have the energy to dig deeply like the rest of you are doing. You're doing good work.
I wasn't offended at all. You're going to get false positives and I think it's good because at the same time you are making people aware of what's going on. But here's the thing: people like @offender and @Splooge and the others are doing the legwork, so they find these sketchy accounts networked here just made to push traffic on websites... what is anyone going to do about it? I'm not trying to be demotivating, but what can we do about it? It's shit, it's cluttering up the smaller subverses, anything OC or discussion based gets buried by these mass posters. I don't feel like making the effort anymore to do discussion posts. I know no one cares but it's a shame.
Just throwing my two cents in here: there's nothing to be done, at least not on an administrative (or generally mass) level.
Posting these accounts and calling out "bad" content/users, to me, serves only one purpose effectively -- getting readers to be responsible and skeptical.
Since Voat is a platform where virtually anything goes, you can't maintain such a platform without a certain amount of clutter and crap users/bots. If you start instituting bans and stuff, that leads to a slippery slope.
So the only thing that can be done effectively is educating as many goats as possible that these things exist, so when they see the attractive headlines or whatever they don't just blindly upvoat and accept whatever's spoon fed to them.
Knowing these practices exist is supposed to make you more skeptical, to prompt you to do your own verifying. At least that's what it is for me.
Those are greats points. This is an anything goes place, as you said, so you're going to get the good with the bad. My only worry is the danger that it will become overrun or flooded with the bad leaving hardly any real users anymore, like plebbit. But I guess that means, we'll just migrate elsewhere!
I think I hate that shit fishy AF anytime you the same thing posted over and over makes me think they aren't a real person, I have yet to call out a suspected 'shill' but if ever there was a case to use the term it would be on someone who posts a odd signature of 'hat tip' seems like maybe a troll campaign but people are weird could just be weirdos being weird. Not going to go downvoat all of the postings from all of the aforementioned users but there is one that deserves it for sure... I'm moving on going with that montra "Be the change you want to see"
Exactly, it's not about grouping all of these accounts together. I want to get a better idea of who is here to post for the sake of posting and what accounts are more "fixed", if you will.
The domains, no discussion posts, no archiving, always direct links, limited number of sources they link to. Are you going to say there's nothing odd or unsual about TREDDITFIRST's posting behviour?
I'm trying to see if there's a way to discern people who like to post form particular sources and those who are pushing certain domains, narratives, etc. It's more of an exercise for us than an accusation.
OWNtheNWO ago
"a dead account"
That's where you're wrong, pathetic busy body with an agenda.
What's the matter, you don't like people not wanting to stick aluminum and aborted fetal tissue into their kids? Poor little busy body.
shadow332 ago
Look, @offender, I found Kobold's dead alt!
OWNtheNWO ago
You may want to seek help for that paranoid schizophrenia. Don't know who 'Kobold' is but I've used this nome de plume since 2006, you can verify me on most other major social networks including Reddit. Fucking lunatic.
shadow332 ago
Listen kobold, you need to get a life.
Are you talking to yourself? How about not commenting to a 14 day old post and leaving me alone?
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kobold ago
go fuck yourself asshole
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shadow332 ago
Right, becuase looking for one thing automatically always means I'm some other thing.
kobold ago
nobody cares. insect.
shadow332 ago
Instead of getting angry, why don't you just archive some of your posts, so it doesn't look like you are pushing traffic for those sites? Is that so hard? Use archive.is.
kneo24 ago
Calling card of the shills.
As if somehow that's an argumentative statement, especially when it's not followed by anything to substantiate it.
Again, see above.
At no point did they attempt to address anything you wrote. I've long stopped caring if I wrangle up normal users anymore. They need to learn to acting like the enemy is not okay.
shadow332 ago
@kneo24, you were the one who made me all aware of this. I remember a few months ago, you made a post like: "why are there always the same people on the front page?" My name was one of the ones you pinged (i.e. one of the guilty). I started looking at who consistently hits the front page and started reading the posts about it on protectvoat. I started watching these accounts more carefully. None of these people are archiving anything. None of these people make discussion posts. You'll find they post direct tracking links/referral links.
My pointing out @kobold's submission history has zero to do with whether I support big pharma (which I personally don't but that's irrelevant). Notice he doesn't respond to my suggestion to archive.
But since the q invasion (perhaps ealier?), there have been a lot of changes on voat, and it's not for the better. I still have a general idea of who the real users are here, but you'll notice the system subs are starting to get more and more of a plebbit feel to them as time passes.
kobold ago
eat shit and die fuckface
kneo24 ago
I remember. I have no problems admitting to snagging a few innocent people along the way, but like I said, I've long stopped caring about whether or not I do. It's good to see that at least you're being aware and looking into to it. I just don't have the energy to dig deeply like the rest of you are doing. You're doing good work.
shadow332 ago
I wasn't offended at all. You're going to get false positives and I think it's good because at the same time you are making people aware of what's going on. But here's the thing: people like @offender and @Splooge and the others are doing the legwork, so they find these sketchy accounts networked here just made to push traffic on websites... what is anyone going to do about it? I'm not trying to be demotivating, but what can we do about it? It's shit, it's cluttering up the smaller subverses, anything OC or discussion based gets buried by these mass posters. I don't feel like making the effort anymore to do discussion posts. I know no one cares but it's a shame.
Splooge ago
Just throwing my two cents in here: there's nothing to be done, at least not on an administrative (or generally mass) level.
Posting these accounts and calling out "bad" content/users, to me, serves only one purpose effectively -- getting readers to be responsible and skeptical.
Since Voat is a platform where virtually anything goes, you can't maintain such a platform without a certain amount of clutter and crap users/bots. If you start instituting bans and stuff, that leads to a slippery slope.
So the only thing that can be done effectively is educating as many goats as possible that these things exist, so when they see the attractive headlines or whatever they don't just blindly upvoat and accept whatever's spoon fed to them.
Knowing these practices exist is supposed to make you more skeptical, to prompt you to do your own verifying. At least that's what it is for me.
shadow332 ago
Those are greats points. This is an anything goes place, as you said, so you're going to get the good with the bad. My only worry is the danger that it will become overrun or flooded with the bad leaving hardly any real users anymore, like plebbit. But I guess that means, we'll just migrate elsewhere!
shadow332 ago
stay mad
EpiPendemic ago
I think I hate that shit fishy AF anytime you the same thing posted over and over makes me think they aren't a real person, I have yet to call out a suspected 'shill' but if ever there was a case to use the term it would be on someone who posts a odd signature of 'hat tip' seems like maybe a troll campaign but people are weird could just be weirdos being weird. Not going to go downvoat all of the postings from all of the aforementioned users but there is one that deserves it for sure... I'm moving on going with that montra "Be the change you want to see"
shadow332 ago
Exactly, it's not about grouping all of these accounts together. I want to get a better idea of who is here to post for the sake of posting and what accounts are more "fixed", if you will.
CarpenterforChrist ago
What do you see about their postings that concerns you, other than trying to connect the dots to certain accounts?
shadow332 ago
The domains, no discussion posts, no archiving, always direct links, limited number of sources they link to. Are you going to say there's nothing odd or unsual about TREDDITFIRST's posting behviour?
I'm trying to see if there's a way to discern people who like to post form particular sources and those who are pushing certain domains, narratives, etc. It's more of an exercise for us than an accusation.
CarpenterforChrist ago
I have not looked into TREDDITFIRST's user info or comments. Usually not my style.
Good to know you're digging for Truth. Carry on fellow patriot. God bless!
shadow332 ago
Thanks!