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When I "paste the title in a browser" I get, "https://www.searx.me/?q=What%27s%20with%20all%20the%20news%20shills%3F&categories=general&language=en-US". Because I have searx.me as my default search.
What search engine(s) are you using to find the links to these obscure sites that people are accusing you of shilling for?
>Also If unsure of an article I paste the title into a browser - not google, yahoo etc - and see where that takes me. Always some new site/info turns up.
This doesn't make fucking sense.
When you paste the title into a browser it either returns an error if invalid URL, or searches using a search engine. What browser are you using? What is your default search engine?
Why don't you ever post discussions or archive the articles? We always have to go to a live link and give that site traffic. It takes 2 seconds to archive an article.
I've noticed these too. I suspect they're part of a false flag op to smear democrat opponents with spreading fake news and create a causus belli to regulate online news.
Yea, but look at his submission history. He makes zero discussion posts and everything, I mean everything is a live link. Why can't these fucking people archive just once or make a discussion post? Would that maybe defeat the whole purpose of them spamming specific websites? It takes 2 fucking seconds to archive.
I agree with you. However I am not that concerned about @Ex-Redditor with ill intentions. I mean his posting activity is about 15 or so posts per day in a lapse of an hour difference or so every 3 or so posts.
@Himfirst I am more concerned about. This is because he posts more than 20 posts a day with just minutes differences between each post. This means that he already has those links prepared. Doubt it they are prepared by him the night before. I think the account is handled by more than 1 person or that the user of this account works with a 3rd party that gives him the workload to then post on Voat to promote a narrative.
Plus the comment ratio between the two is significantly different. For example u/Ex-Redditor has around 15000 CCP while his SCP is around 30k. And I am talking about a 4 year account here. But u/Himfirst has 814 CCP and over 33000 SCP in a 5 months account.
This is suspicious to me. I don't think that u/Ex-Redditor has ill intentions nor that he works for a third party. Could be but my hunch would be about the other account.
Fair enough, if he's not doing it to push traffic on certain websites, and he's "so bored at work", then it shouldn't be a problem for him to pop them into archive.is, right? I asked him to do so, I'll see if he's legit or not.
@Himfirst is probably not an interested user, probably a bot or group of people pushing that stuff out. Like you said, the CCP is more important than the SCP, however, like I've seen on some accounts, it's important to check the quality of the comment history as well. If the only replies a few words or phrases like "fuck you idiot" or "dems suck", then it's probably not organic.
This site is one of a few that I've noticed getting shilled a lot the past few months (another is bigleaguepolitics) even though the quality of their content is terrible. When I have bothered to visit it's like someone who is not a native english speaker just read the AP/reuters article about a subject and sloppily retyped it in their own words with a handful of bias mixed in.
They might be autoblogs. If you're not familiar with it, most blogs just subscribe to feeds of other blogs and primary sources, then they use a rewriting/spinner API to change up the wording, then it gets posted. They typically mess up proper nouns and event names. For example I saw a lot of blogs talking about the "super dish" or "magnificent bowl".
The internet is full of them and google is completely inept at dealing with it. Lookup almost anything and you'll see them, even on the front page. Most websites ranking "naturally" for any profitable keywords are probably using them. They're usually sold as "PBN links".
@offender's list of who posts onehundredpercentfedup is basically the sum of all these new shill accounts. The question is: what can we do about this? I'm noticing them more and more too, not because I'm here longer - what's setting bells off for me is the increasing number of sketchy/shitty blog type and obscure websites. They accounts are definitely commected and posting more and more.
No matter how much I'm hanging around on the internet, I never come across that many random blogs. Normal users get most of their stories/info from the MSM sites of course.
Here's just a few that I'm very sure are all owned by the same company
@offender - what company is this? Can we follow the money and find the source of all of this?
Because they are shills, their job is to spread disinformation and confusion, not to inform people with correct information. Not sure what you mean by that.
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0fsgivin ago
This is seriously problematic good find man.
shadow332 ago
Put your article in archive.is. Stop posting live links if you're not trying to give them traffic.
matthew-- ago
You're not answering the question.
When I "paste the title in a browser" I get, "https://www.searx.me/?q=What%27s%20with%20all%20the%20news%20shills%3F&categories=general&language=en-US". Because I have searx.me as my default search.
What search engine(s) are you using to find the links to these obscure sites that people are accusing you of shilling for?
matthew-- ago
>Also If unsure of an article I paste the title into a browser - not google, yahoo etc - and see where that takes me. Always some new site/info turns up.
This doesn't make fucking sense.
When you paste the title into a browser it either returns an error if invalid URL, or searches using a search engine. What browser are you using? What is your default search engine?
>Always some new site/info turns up.
Bullshit.
shadow332 ago
Why don't you ever post discussions or archive the articles? We always have to go to a live link and give that site traffic. It takes 2 seconds to archive an article.
sguevar ago
Thanks for the answer.
Broc_Lia ago
I've noticed these too. I suspect they're part of a false flag op to smear democrat opponents with spreading fake news and create a causus belli to regulate online news.
sguevar ago
Good job @offender and @shadow332
sguevar ago
@Ex-Redditor, how are you finding this articles?
Are you subscribed to any of these domains yourself?
Are these sources of yours something you normally read?
shadow332 ago
Yea, but look at his submission history. He makes zero discussion posts and everything, I mean everything is a live link. Why can't these fucking people archive just once or make a discussion post? Would that maybe defeat the whole purpose of them spamming specific websites? It takes 2 fucking seconds to archive.
sguevar ago
I agree with you. However I am not that concerned about @Ex-Redditor with ill intentions. I mean his posting activity is about 15 or so posts per day in a lapse of an hour difference or so every 3 or so posts.
@Himfirst I am more concerned about. This is because he posts more than 20 posts a day with just minutes differences between each post. This means that he already has those links prepared. Doubt it they are prepared by him the night before. I think the account is handled by more than 1 person or that the user of this account works with a 3rd party that gives him the workload to then post on Voat to promote a narrative.
Plus the comment ratio between the two is significantly different. For example u/Ex-Redditor has around 15000 CCP while his SCP is around 30k. And I am talking about a 4 year account here. But u/Himfirst has 814 CCP and over 33000 SCP in a 5 months account.
This is suspicious to me. I don't think that u/Ex-Redditor has ill intentions nor that he works for a third party. Could be but my hunch would be about the other account.
shadow332 ago
Fair enough, if he's not doing it to push traffic on certain websites, and he's "so bored at work", then it shouldn't be a problem for him to pop them into archive.is, right? I asked him to do so, I'll see if he's legit or not.
@Himfirst is probably not an interested user, probably a bot or group of people pushing that stuff out. Like you said, the CCP is more important than the SCP, however, like I've seen on some accounts, it's important to check the quality of the comment history as well. If the only replies a few words or phrases like "fuck you idiot" or "dems suck", then it's probably not organic.
petevoat ago
Nice work, thanks
goatsandbros ago
Welcome to the jungle. Thank you for being vigilant.
HateCumbuckets ago
Have you noticed any account targeting specific countries? @Ex-Redditor posts quite a few Australian specific posts.
WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI ago
Only 5 pings work in each post.
This site is one of a few that I've noticed getting shilled a lot the past few months (another is bigleaguepolitics) even though the quality of their content is terrible. When I have bothered to visit it's like someone who is not a native english speaker just read the AP/reuters article about a subject and sloppily retyped it in their own words with a handful of bias mixed in.
offender ago
They might be autoblogs. If you're not familiar with it, most blogs just subscribe to feeds of other blogs and primary sources, then they use a rewriting/spinner API to change up the wording, then it gets posted. They typically mess up proper nouns and event names. For example I saw a lot of blogs talking about the "super dish" or "magnificent bowl".
SolidFoundations ago
Lol, really? That's hilarious but scary..
offender ago
The internet is full of them and google is completely inept at dealing with it. Lookup almost anything and you'll see them, even on the front page. Most websites ranking "naturally" for any profitable keywords are probably using them. They're usually sold as "PBN links".
Splooge ago
Just stopping by to say great fucking job. Well done.
shadow332 ago
@offender's list of who posts onehundredpercentfedup is basically the sum of all these new shill accounts. The question is: what can we do about this? I'm noticing them more and more too, not because I'm here longer - what's setting bells off for me is the increasing number of sketchy/shitty blog type and obscure websites. They accounts are definitely commected and posting more and more.
No matter how much I'm hanging around on the internet, I never come across that many random blogs. Normal users get most of their stories/info from the MSM sites of course.
@offender - what company is this? Can we follow the money and find the source of all of this?
offender ago
Brandon Vallorani possibly
kneo24 ago
And the bigger question becomes, why are you not checking your sources?
Mr_Wolf ago
they get an email of what to post and specific locations and around what times, sometimes even usernames and log ins.
then they have to email back their posts so they can be paid by either the post or word count.
a girlfriend of mine ended up working for a company that pays shills. she ended up quiting becauase she didnt agree with what they wanted her posting
offender ago
What were they trying to get her to post?
CameraCode ago
Because they are shills, their job is to spread disinformation and confusion, not to inform people with correct information. Not sure what you mean by that.