I would really like to know what it is the loving evangelical Christians are dong that makes him so mad? Love God and each other? Support Freedom and human rights? Personal accountability? Being happy?
Alright, so you have literally no understanding of history. You're a Boomer, right? You're somehow aware that all warfare is based on lies and propoganda and that the winners lies get recorded as history - except for WWII. Yeah, there were totally death camps and mad Nazi scientists lmfao.
Nazis (NAtional socialists) were socialists, i.e. tribalists just like communists.
They - like everyone who gives credence and limits his perception to the left/right-paradigm - reject(ed), abhor(red) and combat(ted) individual reasoning, individual growth, and learning, true responsibility, freedom of speech and critical thinking, the right of individuals to be armed as a means against despotism and ultimately worship(ped) the anonymous collective and statism as an idol.
They were useful idiots. Fighting against other useful idiots. Just like RIGHT NOW “right wingers” fighting against the “left”. The stupidity is EXACTLY the same. Wrong tree.
History is useless if you fall from one stupid version of (hi)story to/ for the next version of (hi)story.
For those awake history is a tremendous teacher. For the idiots - that behave like you - it’s just another justification to engage in and write another chapter of “endless ever repeating war”.
B) I see aspects where I get how you come to that conviction
C) I see aspects in which I certainly have to disagree. Like freedom of speech, freedom of association, all of jurisdiction, killing centuries of culture, 2a, SA n SS, indoctrination via Hitlerjugend/ BDM, medical experiments and torture (Your CIA torture manual is basically translated from German), shutting down and eliminating dissent, vanishing people, instilling an intangible ever present mood of fear, “Gleichschaltung”, ...
Germany never had freedom of speech you dumbass. They were literally coming right off the heels of being under a Kaiser and had no experience at all with our form of republic. Do you know anything at all about German history?
It was the books of these transgenderism-promoting communist faggots that the Nazis burned, and I would have burned them too. And before you go all rah rah USA freedom of speech, you should know that after the war, the Allies burned far more books in Germany than the Nazis ever did.
Also, the Nazis were socialist economically but conservative socially. Freedom of speech and all the rest are not economic issues. Learn the difference.
Projection much ... while you’re certainly not wrong that freedom of speech was never written into law, Germany had a very vivid and meaningful tolerance towards exchanging opinion and public discourse.
Schiller, Goethe, Lessing, Heine, Schopenhauer, Kant, ... were hugely respected but feared also because of their knowledgeable discourse. Criticizing the emperor was off, sure. But this emperor also had his power founded on a basis of natural law, i.e. a) there were real citizens, and b) they were regarded as humans. And this frame based on the tradition of roman continental law was a centerpiece of our culture. And it worked.
“Conservative in terms of THEIR culture” is cultural relativism 101. You’re talking bullshit. I am “German” and it has nothing to do with conservatism. It’s simply authoritarianism and in that socialist to its very core. In other words: “Germany” still doesn’t get it which is exactly why someone like Maas is - this week - trying to form a coalition for new and more migrants.
The discourse in Germany is mostly limited to “You reject Globalism means you want to reinstate the Kaiser”. That’s the level of stupidity we’re talking about.
“Projection much ... while you’re certainly not wrong that freedom of speech was never written into law, Germany had a very vivid and meaningful tolerance towards exchanging opinion and public discourse.”
I don’t think you know what the word “projection” means, retard.
Nice job backtracking on essentially bitching about the Nazis violating a First Amendment that they never fucking had.
And here’s another clue you fucking moron. And seriously, do you really think Germans in 1930 were concerned with upholding American ideas of conservatism? Are you really THAT fucking retarded? Are you going to hold Julius Caesar to US Constitutional standards too? You are actually making the EXACT argument that leftists retards make when bitching about the founding fathers because they owned slaves and that’s not cool anymore.
You can’t judge the past and especially the past in foreign cultures by your own modern, national standards and expect to understand a goddamn thing. You are simply moralizing like a sore leftist pussy, and that’s no coincidence because you are following the left’s talking points on Nazis.
I majored in history and yes, I will tell you something about it you dumb faggot. That’s why I study it in the first place, to educate the ignorant.
Keep rambling along... You repeat proving that you totally lack the necessary resolution to grasp the gist of the problem.
And since you obviously don’t figure shit what makes you believe you could understand my answer, moron?
Communists alike Nazis were tribalist shitheads like you that were completely absorbed in thinking along lines of power and submission because of their NPD underlying their immature and superficial understanding of arguments, incidents, and obvious patterns. Without standing a chance to ever solving the riddle.
You, pussy, couldn’t contribute a single fart towards Trump’s and Qteam’s undertaking to resolve centuries/ millennia of ever repeating history. “Those who don’t understand history are doomed to repeat it.” That’s you, sweet summer child.
Bet you’ve never seen this either, from a 1990 article way before he was a controversial political figure:
“Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.”
“Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.””
““Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.””
Trump also praises Patton all the time as a great general, one of our greatest, and he was. But you know what? Patton was assassinated because he knew, and began saying at the end of war, that we fought the wrong side, and should have went to war with the Soviet Communists. Patton hated Jews too. He was an American hero.
Patton indeed was a great man. And Hitler feared him the most since he (Patton) naturally had everything that Hitler lacked: Integrity, morals, scruples, sense of responsibility and duty, walking the talk, a handshake more reliable than all paper work, respect - even and especially from enemies, faithful, decent, dedicated, ...
A lot of what he appreciated when he learned about the Germans. They are decent, faithful, crafty, ...
Hitler had none of these qualities. Albert Speer (Hitler’s master planner and architect) recalled conversations with Hitler where “the Führer” for hours wanted Speer to talk about how they would see “NY burn with their skyscrapers like torches”.
Hitler - though just another abused puppet by the Cabal - is pretty much exactly like the people Trump will take down: He had no positive vision for the Germans. All he dreamed about was dominance and beating others into submission.
He - most likely - wasn’t “wrong” with his observations about jews manipulating from the shadows. Putin said in 2013 that 85% of the first Duma was jewish. But Hitler utterly lacked all necessary skills which is why he ended as just another useful idiot.
Q(+) didn’t and will never show respect for Hitler. And I totally get why.
I'm reading your post looking for verifiable facts instead of just subjective opinions and I'm coming up seeing nothing of substance at all. Instead you sound like an emotional woman. And you may in fact be a woman, which would explain your flowery faggot language that no native English speaker uses unless they are a total loser.
I should have known better than to talk to a retarded German. You motherfuckers are among the most brainwashed people in the world today, no joke. Europe in general is much more fucked than the US and you're just one more example of that.
I don't read books by people I don't respect. I don't think Trump would, either.
I understand what you post as easily as I understand a drunk rambling fool. It’s not difficult. Nazis were evil because they burned tranny books and violated a non existent 1st amendment etc etc, but the tranny commies were fine, even though the same Bolshevik fags just murdered 20 million in Russia.
What would you do if you were in 1930s Germany? Start a third party? Would that be your solution, genius?
You sound like a 13 year old trying too hard to use flowery faggot language. You must be a real loser in real life.
Nazis (NAtional socialists) were socialists, i.e. tribalists just like communists.
Stopped reading here because you're retarded. They were fascist capitalists. I know the word "socialist" in their name can be tricky, but don't let it fool you.
Who do communists hate more than anyone else? Nazi's. So I'm not sure why you think they're just alike lol.
Perhaps it would be more appropriate to say they behave exactly the same.
There is a difference in their agendas from the POV of their grass root followers, but both lead to the same destruction. Not so much difference from the POV of the leaders. Power and control over everything and everyone.
I can't wait for you Boomers to die out. It's not about power and authority. It's about racial conflict.
The Bolsheviks were a Jewish clique that seized power in Russia and slaughtered tens of millions of Russians.
When Jewish communists then attempted the same coup on German, the Nazis resisted and formed a government based on the principle that Germans would be unified as a homogenous people to protect themselves from outside, malicious forces.
It took the entire world to stop them and now they're reviled as the most evil thing mankind has ever done - they dared to resist Jewish power.
General George Patton said we fought the wrong enemy in WWII, and he was right.
It was never resisting Jewish power that caused Nazis to be reviled by the entire world. It is their evil intent to destroy all who do not agree with their warped view of their own superiority and serve them under brutal rule. Much like Islam.
Totally believe you. If you understood my point you wouldn’t come up with that bull.
Just to give it to you from another angle:
AOC, Tlaib, Omar, Cummings, Sharpton, and every single other loudmouth is also totally convinced that they have it all figured out. Which is the reason why they’re rambling that shit in the first place.
You, my friend, right now do not comprehend the difference between “a critical individual thinking for him-/herself” and “someone totally absorbed and identified with groupthink”
So, no it’s not “tricky”. It’s You not getting the gist of it. That’s why it appears confusing. National socialists were socialists in that they killed individual thinking/ identity, put so much emphasis in “Gleichschaltung” - which is the exact same thing Obama did with the media following up on Bill Clinton’s concentration of corporate media.
I am a little bit more and longer interested in that topic since my grandpa spent 6 years in concentration camp Sachsenhausen. And: No, it wasn’t a death camp.
Fuckingmockies, even nationalist could be critical of Hitler or the NSDAP agenda. e.g Canaris. He was a nationalist. And a very smart one at that, till his luck ran out in the 1944 purges coming about as a result of Operation Valkyrie.
Gleichschaltung, is basically, "to bring on equal footing", or a resetting of watches at the same time, synchronization, is the implementation of social reform with the aim of equity between people, communities, and states.
Here is an entry from wiki, take it as you will:
While greater German social and economic unity was produced through the Gleichschaltung initiatives of the regime, it was at the expense of individuality and to the social detriment of any nonconformist;[37] and worse—it contributed to and reinforced the social and racial exclusion of anyone deemed an enemy by National Socialist doctrine.[38][b]
I was wondering about this. SDAP and others have tried for 15 years to get things into gear. Even appealed to the french for a union, to have them as a security guarantor (1921/1922 Geneva) Did not work out. But the social and economic effects on domestic matters are not really taken into account, whereas the wins by the political correct choice (see commies in USSR) are touted, and failures scrubbed.
If my grandfather or anybody close to in my family had been jewish my grandpa wouldn’t have been taken to Sachsenhausen but to Auschwitz, Treblinka, ... He was military police and critical towards Nazis since before 1933.
Do yourself a favor and look into Hitler and “Gleichschaltung”.
Hitler, like Stalin, like Mao, like Polpot, like Che + Castros brothers have one common denominator: They are authoritarians abusing collectivism to shut down the individual. And Obama tried the same shit in a slick and soft version preparing the grounds for Hillary. Remember 16yrs plan?
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nevergiveup2them ago
I would really like to know what it is the loving evangelical Christians are dong that makes him so mad? Love God and each other? Support Freedom and human rights? Personal accountability? Being happy?
Revised ago
You nailed it.
Democrats cannot tolerate these things so the stand firmly behind their Brown Shirts.
fuckingmockies ago
Brown Shirts? The Nazi's were the good guys in WWII, buddy.
Revised ago
I can understand why children of Satan would say so.
fuckingmockies ago
Alright, so you have literally no understanding of history. You're a Boomer, right? You're somehow aware that all warfare is based on lies and propoganda and that the winners lies get recorded as history - except for WWII. Yeah, there were totally death camps and mad Nazi scientists lmfao.
Furlefonce ago
Nazis (NAtional socialists) were socialists, i.e. tribalists just like communists.
They - like everyone who gives credence and limits his perception to the left/right-paradigm - reject(ed), abhor(red) and combat(ted) individual reasoning, individual growth, and learning, true responsibility, freedom of speech and critical thinking, the right of individuals to be armed as a means against despotism and ultimately worship(ped) the anonymous collective and statism as an idol.
They were useful idiots. Fighting against other useful idiots. Just like RIGHT NOW “right wingers” fighting against the “left”. The stupidity is EXACTLY the same. Wrong tree.
History is useless if you fall from one stupid version of (hi)story to/ for the next version of (hi)story.
For those awake history is a tremendous teacher. For the idiots - that behave like you - it’s just another justification to engage in and write another chapter of “endless ever repeating war”.
bb22 ago
FDR was more socialist than Hitler.
Furlefonce ago
A) Though shalt not compare misery.
B) I see aspects where I get how you come to that conviction
C) I see aspects in which I certainly have to disagree. Like freedom of speech, freedom of association, all of jurisdiction, killing centuries of culture, 2a, SA n SS, indoctrination via Hitlerjugend/ BDM, medical experiments and torture (Your CIA torture manual is basically translated from German), shutting down and eliminating dissent, vanishing people, instilling an intangible ever present mood of fear, “Gleichschaltung”, ...
bb22 ago
Germany never had freedom of speech you dumbass. They were literally coming right off the heels of being under a Kaiser and had no experience at all with our form of republic. Do you know anything at all about German history?
Here’s an enlightening article for you: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2847643/Berlin-liberal-hotbed-homosexuality-mecca-cross-dressers-transsexuals-male-female-surgery-performed-Nazis-came-power-new-book-reveals.html
It was the books of these transgenderism-promoting communist faggots that the Nazis burned, and I would have burned them too. And before you go all rah rah USA freedom of speech, you should know that after the war, the Allies burned far more books in Germany than the Nazis ever did.
Also, the Nazis were socialist economically but conservative socially. Freedom of speech and all the rest are not economic issues. Learn the difference.
Furlefonce ago
Projection much ... while you’re certainly not wrong that freedom of speech was never written into law, Germany had a very vivid and meaningful tolerance towards exchanging opinion and public discourse.
Schiller, Goethe, Lessing, Heine, Schopenhauer, Kant, ... were hugely respected but feared also because of their knowledgeable discourse. Criticizing the emperor was off, sure. But this emperor also had his power founded on a basis of natural law, i.e. a) there were real citizens, and b) they were regarded as humans. And this frame based on the tradition of roman continental law was a centerpiece of our culture. And it worked.
“Conservative in terms of THEIR culture” is cultural relativism 101. You’re talking bullshit. I am “German” and it has nothing to do with conservatism. It’s simply authoritarianism and in that socialist to its very core. In other words: “Germany” still doesn’t get it which is exactly why someone like Maas is - this week - trying to form a coalition for new and more migrants.
The discourse in Germany is mostly limited to “You reject Globalism means you want to reinstate the Kaiser”. That’s the level of stupidity we’re talking about.
Don’t try to teach me about my history.
bb22 ago
“Projection much ... while you’re certainly not wrong that freedom of speech was never written into law, Germany had a very vivid and meaningful tolerance towards exchanging opinion and public discourse.”
I don’t think you know what the word “projection” means, retard.
Nice job backtracking on essentially bitching about the Nazis violating a First Amendment that they never fucking had.
And here’s another clue you fucking moron. And seriously, do you really think Germans in 1930 were concerned with upholding American ideas of conservatism? Are you really THAT fucking retarded? Are you going to hold Julius Caesar to US Constitutional standards too? You are actually making the EXACT argument that leftists retards make when bitching about the founding fathers because they owned slaves and that’s not cool anymore.
You can’t judge the past and especially the past in foreign cultures by your own modern, national standards and expect to understand a goddamn thing. You are simply moralizing like a sore leftist pussy, and that’s no coincidence because you are following the left’s talking points on Nazis.
I majored in history and yes, I will tell you something about it you dumb faggot. That’s why I study it in the first place, to educate the ignorant.
Furlefonce ago
Keep rambling along... You repeat proving that you totally lack the necessary resolution to grasp the gist of the problem.
And since you obviously don’t figure shit what makes you believe you could understand my answer, moron?
Communists alike Nazis were tribalist shitheads like you that were completely absorbed in thinking along lines of power and submission because of their NPD underlying their immature and superficial understanding of arguments, incidents, and obvious patterns. Without standing a chance to ever solving the riddle.
You, pussy, couldn’t contribute a single fart towards Trump’s and Qteam’s undertaking to resolve centuries/ millennia of ever repeating history. “Those who don’t understand history are doomed to repeat it.” That’s you, sweet summer child.
bb22 ago
Bet you’ve never seen this either, from a 1990 article way before he was a controversial political figure:
“Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.”
“Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.””
““Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.
Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”
“I don’t remember,” I said.
“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)
Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.””
https://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/07/donald-ivana-trump-divorce-prenup-marie-brenner/amp
Trump also praises Patton all the time as a great general, one of our greatest, and he was. But you know what? Patton was assassinated because he knew, and began saying at the end of war, that we fought the wrong side, and should have went to war with the Soviet Communists. Patton hated Jews too. He was an American hero.
Furlefonce ago
Patton indeed was a great man. And Hitler feared him the most since he (Patton) naturally had everything that Hitler lacked: Integrity, morals, scruples, sense of responsibility and duty, walking the talk, a handshake more reliable than all paper work, respect - even and especially from enemies, faithful, decent, dedicated, ...
A lot of what he appreciated when he learned about the Germans. They are decent, faithful, crafty, ...
Hitler had none of these qualities. Albert Speer (Hitler’s master planner and architect) recalled conversations with Hitler where “the Führer” for hours wanted Speer to talk about how they would see “NY burn with their skyscrapers like torches”.
Hitler - though just another abused puppet by the Cabal - is pretty much exactly like the people Trump will take down: He had no positive vision for the Germans. All he dreamed about was dominance and beating others into submission.
He - most likely - wasn’t “wrong” with his observations about jews manipulating from the shadows. Putin said in 2013 that 85% of the first Duma was jewish. But Hitler utterly lacked all necessary skills which is why he ended as just another useful idiot.
Q(+) didn’t and will never show respect for Hitler. And I totally get why.
bb22 ago
I'm reading your post looking for verifiable facts instead of just subjective opinions and I'm coming up seeing nothing of substance at all. Instead you sound like an emotional woman. And you may in fact be a woman, which would explain your flowery faggot language that no native English speaker uses unless they are a total loser.
I should have known better than to talk to a retarded German. You motherfuckers are among the most brainwashed people in the world today, no joke. Europe in general is much more fucked than the US and you're just one more example of that.
I don't read books by people I don't respect. I don't think Trump would, either.
Furlefonce ago
Bless your heart, my friend
bb22 ago
Hug a Muslim for me cunt. Hopefully they'll be strapped with explosives.
Furlefonce ago
Thanks for the laughs, buddy
Again: Bless your heart, be well, be safe
😆
bb22 ago
I don't give a fuck if you laugh. You're just a bag of emotions anyway, and still dumb as fuck.
Furlefonce ago
I truly, honestly thank you 🙏
Be well and take care. 😉
bb22 ago
I understand what you post as easily as I understand a drunk rambling fool. It’s not difficult. Nazis were evil because they burned tranny books and violated a non existent 1st amendment etc etc, but the tranny commies were fine, even though the same Bolshevik fags just murdered 20 million in Russia.
What would you do if you were in 1930s Germany? Start a third party? Would that be your solution, genius?
You sound like a 13 year old trying too hard to use flowery faggot language. You must be a real loser in real life.
fuckingmockies ago
Stopped reading here because you're retarded. They were fascist capitalists. I know the word "socialist" in their name can be tricky, but don't let it fool you.
Who do communists hate more than anyone else? Nazi's. So I'm not sure why you think they're just alike lol.
Revised ago
Perhaps it would be more appropriate to say they behave exactly the same.
There is a difference in their agendas from the POV of their grass root followers, but both lead to the same destruction. Not so much difference from the POV of the leaders. Power and control over everything and everyone.
fuckingmockies ago
I can't wait for you Boomers to die out. It's not about power and authority. It's about racial conflict.
The Bolsheviks were a Jewish clique that seized power in Russia and slaughtered tens of millions of Russians.
When Jewish communists then attempted the same coup on German, the Nazis resisted and formed a government based on the principle that Germans would be unified as a homogenous people to protect themselves from outside, malicious forces.
It took the entire world to stop them and now they're reviled as the most evil thing mankind has ever done - they dared to resist Jewish power.
General George Patton said we fought the wrong enemy in WWII, and he was right.
Revised ago
It was never resisting Jewish power that caused Nazis to be reviled by the entire world. It is their evil intent to destroy all who do not agree with their warped view of their own superiority and serve them under brutal rule. Much like Islam.
fuckingmockies ago
Lmfao you're retarded.
Revised ago
Funny how a retard just nailed it.
Furlefonce ago
Totally believe you. If you understood my point you wouldn’t come up with that bull.
Just to give it to you from another angle:
AOC, Tlaib, Omar, Cummings, Sharpton, and every single other loudmouth is also totally convinced that they have it all figured out. Which is the reason why they’re rambling that shit in the first place.
You, my friend, right now do not comprehend the difference between “a critical individual thinking for him-/herself” and “someone totally absorbed and identified with groupthink”
So, no it’s not “tricky”. It’s You not getting the gist of it. That’s why it appears confusing. National socialists were socialists in that they killed individual thinking/ identity, put so much emphasis in “Gleichschaltung” - which is the exact same thing Obama did with the media following up on Bill Clinton’s concentration of corporate media.
I am a little bit more and longer interested in that topic since my grandpa spent 6 years in concentration camp Sachsenhausen. And: No, it wasn’t a death camp.
fuckingmockies ago
Oooh, you're a Jew. This explains much.
Well, friend, one day soon your meddlesome race will be purged off the face of the Earth.
redtoe_skipper ago
Fuckingmockies, even nationalist could be critical of Hitler or the NSDAP agenda. e.g Canaris. He was a nationalist. And a very smart one at that, till his luck ran out in the 1944 purges coming about as a result of Operation Valkyrie.
Gleichschaltung, is basically, "to bring on equal footing", or a resetting of watches at the same time, synchronization, is the implementation of social reform with the aim of equity between people, communities, and states.
Here is an entry from wiki, take it as you will:
I was wondering about this. SDAP and others have tried for 15 years to get things into gear. Even appealed to the french for a union, to have them as a security guarantor (1921/1922 Geneva) Did not work out. But the social and economic effects on domestic matters are not really taken into account, whereas the wins by the political correct choice (see commies in USSR) are touted, and failures scrubbed.
Furlefonce ago
Boy, oh boy, ...
If my grandfather or anybody close to in my family had been jewish my grandpa wouldn’t have been taken to Sachsenhausen but to Auschwitz, Treblinka, ... He was military police and critical towards Nazis since before 1933.
Do yourself a favor and look into Hitler and “Gleichschaltung”.
Hitler, like Stalin, like Mao, like Polpot, like Che + Castros brothers have one common denominator: They are authoritarians abusing collectivism to shut down the individual. And Obama tried the same shit in a slick and soft version preparing the grounds for Hillary. Remember 16yrs plan?