In 2015, a total of 2,712,630 resident deaths were registered in the United States:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db267.pdf
In 2016, a total of 2,744,248 resident deaths were registered in the United States:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db293.pdf
In 2017, a total of 2,813,503 resident deaths were registered in the United States:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db328-h.pdf
In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db355-h.pdf
2019, January – December month ending number of deaths, 2,855,000:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/provisional-tables.htm
2020 number of deaths (all causes) through 11/28/2020, 2,654,825:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/
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Empire_of_the_mind ago
These numbers are what ends the corona virus scam. The reason you're not seeing a large increase at this part of the year, like you might normally, is that the people who would have died from flu/pneumonia this winter already caught it earlier in the year - all that happened this year was the winter seasonal flu and cold death spike was moved to earlier in the year.
Helena73 ago
Just going to copy and paste what I wrote earlier from the identical post in GA and other similar posts and Im frankly Im getting tired of people not looking closely at the numbers. Anyone who is not a lazy turd can spend 5 or 10 minutes looking at the charts cited here and see that the numbers of total deaths ARE WAY UP. Just look at the numbers people. 5th grade math.
Compare completed data from cdc each week compared to the previous 3 year average (percent expected deaths)
March through Sept. 2020: 1,828,350
The previous 3 year average (March through September only): 1,524,444
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
From mid march to mid september total deaths all causes is up 17%. Deaths for weeks past september are incomplete and artificially low. When you adjust for a long term trend of about 2% annual increase of deaths, you still have over 15% more deaths than expected.
See my more detailed math here.
https://voat.co/v/theawakening/4135945/26573927
Even the CDC page the OP linked to shows that 12 month tally for July 2019 to June 2020 to be over 3 million. And that is a 12 month interval that only includes 4 months of the epidemic.
https://files.catbox.moe/m3gm3h.jpeg
THE 2020 DATA IS NOT COMPLETE. Hello!
Not only is the month of December missing from the OPs number but the months of November and October are grossly incomplete as they state on the CDC page. Even numbers from September and August are still not complete. Its the government.
The final number will be over 3 million. 3.1 or 3.2 maybe.
Go ahead. Challenge my math. Try to find an error. Just please fucking do the math.
FarPointPatriot ago
Statsfag here. Can confirm anon is 100% correct. What is out of place is the normality of the daths by natural cause % increase in conjunction with all causes total. The % increase is almost identical. Your would expect, in a pandemic, for rate of increase of natural causes to diverge as "covid" or what ever pushes the total higher. This is not the case deaths increased normally in almost all categories. BOTTOM LINE .... NOT A PANDEMIC AT ALL.
Helena73 ago
How are you calculating “natural cause”? You mean total - covid deaths? What table are you looking at?
You are saying deaths from other causes went up too? Covid deaths did not entirely account for “excess deaths” above the expected number. Is that what you mean?
In a previous post, an article discussed that deaths have been increasing by about 2% a year on average due to aging population— which accounts for some of the increase in total deaths. That 2% seems to account for about half the disparity I see between non-covid deaths and expected deaths, after covid is removed. The additional 2 percent or so could be due to isolation, suicide, disruption of normal timely healthcare. Or there could be a errors in diagnosis or death certificates, and those are actual covid deaths.
I suspect March deaths were a bit low (like 1%) because everyone was very compliant with lockdown initially and virtually all economic activity ceased, yet people had not started dying of covid in high numbers. A lot of people got sick in March and died in April.
Hardly anyone died of covid in the northern states like new york, Michegan, etc because northern areas are following a pronounced seasonal trend for covid just like for the flu. The north is nearly covid free for 6 months a year. The sun-belt has less of a seasonal trend for flu and the same proved true for covid. The spread there is slower and year round . But that is why deaths dropped a lot in June.
I don’t think this trend is artificial or controlled.
FarPointPatriot ago
I did not 'calculate' natural cause. That is a category within the CDC data set.
You causative analysis on March deaths is completely fallacious. If your logic were solid, then when PPE was mandated all across the country in late summer, there would NOT have been spikes UPWARD. There WOULD NOT have been a massive UPSURGE in April and May. If PPE was effective in any way, then the numbers (observations) should have moved dramatically outside the standard deviations. THEY DID NOT.
I SAY AGAIN .... NOTHING ABOUT DEATH DATA IS OUTSIDE OF NORMAL. NOTHING.
NO PANDEMIC.
Helena73 ago
Yes okay. Can you tell me where to find “natural cause” on the tables?
You are mixing two signals. North and south tell radically different stories. Northern cities are showing clear seasonal spikes with low infection spread throughout the summer. Just like the flu.
The sunbelt cities had low infections in March and April due largely to the draconian shut downs in spring. But after the restrictions began lifting they showed a moderate infection rate throughout the summer which is comparable to the moderate year round flu rate in those areas ( i.e. no strong seasonal fluctuation).
The surgical masks don’t seem to be doing much in the way of preventing spread so I don’t think PPE is particularly relevant here.
Population density, hours of daylight, temperature, humidity, — these are more relevant factors. Perhaps cancelling school and large gatherings can make a difference in some “hotspots”.
FarPointPatriot ago
go to cdc site. find cdc download data. It's a field in the all deaths table. its not hard. the fact you had to ask proves you have no clue what you are talking about and are only making speculation.
YOU: "The surgical masks don’t seem to be doing much in the way of preventing spread so I don’t think PPE is particularly relevant here."
ALSO YOU: "I suspect March deaths were a bit low (like 1%) because everyone was very compliant"
Helena73 ago
I cannot download data right now. I just wanted a link to a table that showed “natural causes” nationwide by week.
But you refused to include a link. So I hunted around for 5 minutes. I could only see natural causes broken out by state. Which I can’t download.
I guess if you do know where the relevant table is, you absolutely refuse to include a link. You are just one of those people.
I think Ive made the distinction multiple times between full lockdown (no one leaving their houses) and people resuming their normal lives with a thin tissue over their mouths. But you refuse to acknowlege any distinction whatsoever. You can’t separate the two at all, its just all “compliance with scamdemic” but I assure you these are different behaviors with different effects on epidemics.
There is no contradiction here. People stayed home in March and April more than any other months. There were no car accidents. There were no drive by shootings. All non-emergency surgeries were cancelled. This drove down non-covid deaths A LITTLE. Temporarily. And completely halted spread of covid in the sunbelt were it wasn’t really spreading fast anyway.
In May and June people in the Sunbelt started leaving their houses, leading to a modest uptick in cases in the South. Surgical masks probably did not play a significant factor.
But if you want to be perverse and continue to deny any distinction between these factors, carry on with your willful ignorance.
FarPointPatriot ago
Do your own work.
You are pissing away time replying to me instead of actual research ... which I seriously doubt you have ever done.
Your posts are RIFE with faulty assumptions. Read a book.
Helena73 ago
Thats what I thought.