You mean christianity where the guy horsewhipped the moneychangers and flipped their table? Christianity which fought war after war to drive out infidels, which purged the land of fornicators and satanists, which burned degenerates at the stake? Which banned usury for 1000 years? I reject your soyified characterization of christianity. I dont know what you are or what your game is.
If you are an Odinfag or some guy with a hitchens hard on coming here to shit on christians fuck you. If you are a christcuck coming to shit on odinfags fuck you as well. The time for that shit is over. We have the same enemy and we have to unite. There is no other option. You are a fucking glownig demoralizer if you say anything different.
There isnt an available manforce of 50 or 100 thousand people that can defend us and think exactly like you dummy. Your mom didnt have that many kids. Deal with reality.
This has already been played out: https://files.catbox.moe/em7oe3.png They were crushed not by a lack of numbers but by White christcucks and jews hand in hand strangling their supply line.
No, sounds like you people are whites who arent christian and arent left leaning. I ask you again, how do you propose to take back the country with 3 guys? I mean you got me but Im a middle aged woman. Ill be shit in battle.
There arent enough right wing atheists for your plan.
Not only in battle but in thinking, but as you say, you are a woman: https://files.catbox.moe/b5zcsc.jpg In your strawman scenario the answer is there isn't one. As for a game plan, I've written one several times now on voat in varying detail. Physical war is to be avoided, the issue there is as with what happened to Whites in africa, the issue isn't fighting and winning against non Whites, but cucked Whites and the jew controlled state. jews' power is money, from that all their tentacles derive, they need to be replaced as the owners and source of money, replace them as the buyers of politicians, media, lawfare. Race realist Whites need to concentrate on starting, buying, controlling, running businesses, most things don't take off but of those that do some take off like a rocket, quickly, elon musk, notch(creator of minecraft, billionaire overnight) being a couple of examples. Need to start up/own every kind of business that exist along with full supply chains as alternatives and competition to jew controlled/owned, so that jews can't non person people they don't like, alternatives to turn to when jews push their nasty agendas, and diminish jew market share/increase pro White market share that is leveraged for again buying off politicians, etc. On an individual level I've gone over details on not contributing to the jewed system, from avoiding income and property tax, not being a consumer, producing, countering jew influence of people(can't currently compete with a jew business, broadcast free alternatives or alternative activities to occupy people's time and minds so as not to be under jews' indoctrination influence.) jews aren't working on taking over the world, they've already done that(their aim now is population reduction, Whites first,) they've achieved this with a very small number of those involved. Achilles heel is christcuck mind poison, the bible can be twisted to get christcucks to follow a pro ethnic identity but the seeds of destruction are baked into the cake with cuckstianity, it'd need a complete rewrite to weed that shit out, basically it's fundamental premise, may need to be done even if only temporary.
Christianity destroyed Europe ages ago and was created and spread by the jews to do so.
Anyone that argues against this is being intellectually dishonest and has not studies history.
It was and is pure ideological poison that placates to the jews / old testiment.
Same with all the other Abrahamic Religions and their off shoots. Not to say Christians aren't good people this is true in a majority sense but being a nice person doesn't save you from intellectual and ethnic infiltration of invasion, quite the opposite as we have witnessed throughout the ages and now in modern times.
I agree being a nice person isn’t a solid, applicable in all cases disposition.
But your intellectual problem (and I mean with your thesis, not your mind) is that the foundation of civil society is a trust that neighbors won’t settle a score with the sword. They will seek the arbitration of a third party. Perpetual war is never a formula for civilization.
The Hebrew law was eye for an eye. That got tossed by Jesus of Nazareth. He built a civilization—the one you are defending till the last drop of your blood (God bless you) —on the golden rule.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Do I want my neighbor to be a dick to me, I better not be a dick to him. We may call that being nice, but it’s actually enabling the foundation of the greatest society in history to be developed. It was once called Christendom.
Now the kikes have exploited the very instrument to found this culture that gave the world science, art, law and, what we cherish most, freedom.
So, do we through out our own society to rid us of the Jew?
How about we keep it and what enabled it to get that way and wisen up to the Jew?
We are far closer to expelling the Jew from this great human creation than we are in reconfiguring it.
The Church is a vehicle of grace—the life of God. It enables us to act godly rather than like an animal.
No state can be free without grace. Why? Because it has no grace to impart. The state is not God. So, man is left to act without grace and his actions tend towards those of animals.
Do you understand that the whole justification for churchmen is to make known and be the conduits for humans to share in God’s life.
Today we have many corrupt churchmen who are antagonistic to grace’s influence. These imposters need to be hung so that grace may be plentiful.
I believe in dueling, the coliseum and the glory which was Rome.
To a large extent Christianity ruined that aspect of our race completely. Violence and War is what shaped our genetics and was the foundation of what made our race great.
Although I do have my Theological discrepancies with Christendom it is far better then Judaism or Islam. You will find no physical frontage from me against a Christian European as there are aspects of the ancient religion that I respect but not many. I'm a Stoic and Cynic Philosopher and align more with ancient Greek and Eastern thought then with desert tribe mythology's. I would tear your ideologies apart in a formal discussion panel but never with the sword. There are arenas for ideas and for combat and I believe both should exist with honor, law included if so be it. Parties should be allowed to conduct whatever affairs they wish as long as there is consent. Something you will never find in this shadow world unfortunately.
I give leave to your thinking but not to your senses.
No one claims Christianity never raised the sword.
In fact, we get trashed from both directions: we’re cuck pacifist dupes or hypocritical crusaders.
Whatever pejorative underpinning our accusers have, they cannot deny that we are for peace and we are for war.
It’s all about justice. And if you find you’ve acted justly towards God, towards yourself and towards those with whom you live in close quarters, then you take whatever life throws at you. If it’s war, then it’s war. If it’s peace, then go create beauty.
But what makes justice possible is the worship and right gratitude to the origin of all of this. We happened to have been visited by God. Most definitely it is a good idea to show Him—if you’re not in a position to pay gratitude—a curiousness at minimum.
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Why the fuck are you arguing with me? I was making the opposite point: that christianity is not antithetical to ethnic identitarianism and does not imply passifism or being a doormat while you are invaded.
A lot of traditional Pagan religions have had a lot of their culture destroyed and appropriated by christcucks and the kike crusading genocide of the European people.
Because of this many of the traditional Pagan customs and traditions have been lost to us. The religions of our people have been rendered incomplete, and turned into myths for any culture to appropriate and use as stories. The Hollywood kikes being the biggest appropriators of all.
Additionally, the formation of a indigenous European identity or a heritage American identity has been denied to Whites by the ruling kike powers.
White communities are fighting a battle just to exist.
Waah,waah, waah. 1700 years ago. Your worse than the blacks. But those IE religions still exist in India, go practice them Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism. Go rediscover your pagan roots.
Zoroastrianism is almost gone and hinduism and buddhism are only around anymore in India because sikhs stopped islamic slaughter orgy that was going there for centuries. Middle asia is culturally empty from anything tamerlane deemed non-islamic.
Abrahamic religions are poison to original cultures they occupy. Area I live in was conquered in northern crusades about 900 years ago. What followed was 800 years of being a colony for Sweden and Russia. They mostly used religion for pacifying populace to being good serfs and cannon fodder. There isn't much left from the old ways except some names of gods and holidays.
You could but going off in the woods isn't necessary and doing so paints target on your back, being clustered and isolated, ripe for a strike, easy to paint a narrative with words like cult, compound, etc. not what I'd do, I stay marbled everywhere in civilization. Again, things can happen quickly for a small number of successful cases, from that I'd say it'd be a combination of long game with accelerated bursts that hurry things along. Elon went from nothing to the largest US and second largest car manufacturer in the world by market cap(174b, toyota #1 at 213b) in seventeen years.
The point is about being separate from main society, mentioning the woods wasn't to just specifically living the woods specifically, separating out you stick out. It's not a group/network, it's headless, just a call for race aware Whites to get into business, they can keep their race awareness completely to themselves, operating completely independent, vertically integrating their business so it can't be compromised, starting more and more businesses, best practice being businesses that are peripheral to each other, working out the connection chain as a guide on what to setup next. elon again as an example, electric car company, home power wall company, boring road company, battery company that supplies car and power walls, satellite internet company & space x, tied together. Again the difference is White owners, not jews, and no degeneracy/sjw/blm/etc. jew agenda pushing, which there are companies that exist today that fit that bill and existed before that jewing started so there's no neon sign screaming race aware White business empire, another benefit to this strategy.
Trivia, mail ads have a 4.4% success rate, online .12%, a statistical 1-36 of those who have viewed this are considering going into business to counter the jew. It's a start.
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voatusernamevoat ago
op is anti-christian.
Helena73 ago
Irrelevant.
voatusernamevoat ago
You mean besides self loathing being the central premise of christianity, born guilty, a sinner.
Helena73 ago
You mean christianity where the guy horsewhipped the moneychangers and flipped their table? Christianity which fought war after war to drive out infidels, which purged the land of fornicators and satanists, which burned degenerates at the stake? Which banned usury for 1000 years? I reject your soyified characterization of christianity. I dont know what you are or what your game is.
If you are an Odinfag or some guy with a hitchens hard on coming here to shit on christians fuck you. If you are a christcuck coming to shit on odinfags fuck you as well. The time for that shit is over. We have the same enemy and we have to unite. There is no other option. You are a fucking glownig demoralizer if you say anything different.
voatusernamevoat ago
Yes, there is an enemy with lots of minions, christcucks being one of them. https://voat.co/v/news/3856865/24145679
Helena73 ago
Odinfag youre running pretty pissant revolution then with your 3 other pagan bros. Good luck with that traitor.
voatusernamevoat ago
Swing and a miss, already addressed in the included link, I'm not a "pagan," as for traitor, look in the mirror. https://files.catbox.moe/dryuz1.jpg
Helena73 ago
Never was before. Why hsould it be now?
You have a choice. If we do not unite with christcucks we will fail. Bet on it.
voatusernamevoat ago
Your solution is why we are here.
Helena73 ago
There isnt an available manforce of 50 or 100 thousand people that can defend us and think exactly like you dummy. Your mom didnt have that many kids. Deal with reality.
voatusernamevoat ago
This has already been played out: https://files.catbox.moe/em7oe3.png They were crushed not by a lack of numbers but by White christcucks and jews hand in hand strangling their supply line.
Helena73 ago
Okay you tell me who are your people then
voatusernamevoat ago
Whites.
Helena73 ago
No, sounds like you people are whites who arent christian and arent left leaning. I ask you again, how do you propose to take back the country with 3 guys? I mean you got me but Im a middle aged woman. Ill be shit in battle.
There arent enough right wing atheists for your plan.
voatusernamevoat ago
Not only in battle but in thinking, but as you say, you are a woman: https://files.catbox.moe/b5zcsc.jpg In your strawman scenario the answer is there isn't one. As for a game plan, I've written one several times now on voat in varying detail. Physical war is to be avoided, the issue there is as with what happened to Whites in africa, the issue isn't fighting and winning against non Whites, but cucked Whites and the jew controlled state. jews' power is money, from that all their tentacles derive, they need to be replaced as the owners and source of money, replace them as the buyers of politicians, media, lawfare. Race realist Whites need to concentrate on starting, buying, controlling, running businesses, most things don't take off but of those that do some take off like a rocket, quickly, elon musk, notch(creator of minecraft, billionaire overnight) being a couple of examples. Need to start up/own every kind of business that exist along with full supply chains as alternatives and competition to jew controlled/owned, so that jews can't non person people they don't like, alternatives to turn to when jews push their nasty agendas, and diminish jew market share/increase pro White market share that is leveraged for again buying off politicians, etc. On an individual level I've gone over details on not contributing to the jewed system, from avoiding income and property tax, not being a consumer, producing, countering jew influence of people(can't currently compete with a jew business, broadcast free alternatives or alternative activities to occupy people's time and minds so as not to be under jews' indoctrination influence.) jews aren't working on taking over the world, they've already done that(their aim now is population reduction, Whites first,) they've achieved this with a very small number of those involved. Achilles heel is christcuck mind poison, the bible can be twisted to get christcucks to follow a pro ethnic identity but the seeds of destruction are baked into the cake with cuckstianity, it'd need a complete rewrite to weed that shit out, basically it's fundamental premise, may need to be done even if only temporary.
Merchant_Menace ago
This guy fucking gets it.
Rawrination ago
The cure for Christcuckery
TLDR Kikes aren't even real Israelites.
dundundunnnnn ago
Thank you.
Helena73 ago
So basically hive off and create syndicates like the amish or the hassidic.
It took Russia 80 years to rid itself of progressives. Thats one long ass row to hoe. Guess were playing the long came.
Xax ago
Christians are Christcucked because of infiltration.
The masons and Jews telegraphed 150 years ago that they were going to destroy the Church from within.
Talk to an old European Catholic and if you gain his trust, he’ll name the Jew.
Confusing Christians with Christcucks is divorcing yourself from an army of a billion. Or is that what you want?
AgentSakura ago
Turn the other cheek goyim
Christianity destroyed Europe ages ago and was created and spread by the jews to do so.
Anyone that argues against this is being intellectually dishonest and has not studies history.
It was and is pure ideological poison that placates to the jews / old testiment.
Same with all the other Abrahamic Religions and their off shoots. Not to say Christians aren't good people this is true in a majority sense but being a nice person doesn't save you from intellectual and ethnic infiltration of invasion, quite the opposite as we have witnessed throughout the ages and now in modern times.
Xax ago
I agree being a nice person isn’t a solid, applicable in all cases disposition.
But your intellectual problem (and I mean with your thesis, not your mind) is that the foundation of civil society is a trust that neighbors won’t settle a score with the sword. They will seek the arbitration of a third party. Perpetual war is never a formula for civilization.
The Hebrew law was eye for an eye. That got tossed by Jesus of Nazareth. He built a civilization—the one you are defending till the last drop of your blood (God bless you) —on the golden rule.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Do I want my neighbor to be a dick to me, I better not be a dick to him. We may call that being nice, but it’s actually enabling the foundation of the greatest society in history to be developed. It was once called Christendom.
Now the kikes have exploited the very instrument to found this culture that gave the world science, art, law and, what we cherish most, freedom.
So, do we through out our own society to rid us of the Jew?
How about we keep it and what enabled it to get that way and wisen up to the Jew?
We are far closer to expelling the Jew from this great human creation than we are in reconfiguring it.
Misskylie42 ago
Freedom only came when we got rid of the church and exited the dark ages / the Black Plague gave common serfs more importance within the regions
Xax ago
The Church is a vehicle of grace—the life of God. It enables us to act godly rather than like an animal.
No state can be free without grace. Why? Because it has no grace to impart. The state is not God. So, man is left to act without grace and his actions tend towards those of animals.
Do you understand that the whole justification for churchmen is to make known and be the conduits for humans to share in God’s life.
Today we have many corrupt churchmen who are antagonistic to grace’s influence. These imposters need to be hung so that grace may be plentiful.
Misskylie42 ago
The church is merely a way to make people roll over and welcome invaders
Xax ago
The corrupt churchmen yes. But they don’t even believe in the teachings of the church. They are wolves in sheep’s clothing.
They need to be hung.
Misskylie42 ago
Jesus said to turn the other cheek. He set the precedent for people bowing to their enemies instead of fighting back
Xax ago
And He drove out the money changers with a whip.
So? Is He a pacifist or a brawler?
Misskylie42 ago
Idk. All I know is that he didn’t want people to stand up for themselves
Xax ago
We Christians have to stand up for ourselves. Peter said Be ready to provide a reason for the hope of eternal life.
When the Pharisees sought to arrest Him one of his disciples pointed out there were two swords they could use and He told him it was enough.
But He has to die so that we could have access to His grace. Hence he didn’t put up a fight. It was a trap to ensnare the devil.
But we’re not able to release grace into the world so our death is not necessary as a cause.
I’ll follow the example of the Crusaders. They were not pacifists.
Misskylie42 ago
Jesus wants us to be weak so that we will need god. It’s official
Xax ago
It’s official? Well, you just undermined your argument with that appeal to authority and an inchoate, amorphous one at that.
AgentSakura ago
I believe in dueling, the coliseum and the glory which was Rome.
To a large extent Christianity ruined that aspect of our race completely. Violence and War is what shaped our genetics and was the foundation of what made our race great.
Although I do have my Theological discrepancies with Christendom it is far better then Judaism or Islam. You will find no physical frontage from me against a Christian European as there are aspects of the ancient religion that I respect but not many. I'm a Stoic and Cynic Philosopher and align more with ancient Greek and Eastern thought then with desert tribe mythology's. I would tear your ideologies apart in a formal discussion panel but never with the sword. There are arenas for ideas and for combat and I believe both should exist with honor, law included if so be it. Parties should be allowed to conduct whatever affairs they wish as long as there is consent. Something you will never find in this shadow world unfortunately.
I give leave to your thinking but not to your senses.
Regards
Xax ago
No one claims Christianity never raised the sword.
In fact, we get trashed from both directions: we’re cuck pacifist dupes or hypocritical crusaders.
Whatever pejorative underpinning our accusers have, they cannot deny that we are for peace and we are for war.
It’s all about justice. And if you find you’ve acted justly towards God, towards yourself and towards those with whom you live in close quarters, then you take whatever life throws at you. If it’s war, then it’s war. If it’s peace, then go create beauty.
But what makes justice possible is the worship and right gratitude to the origin of all of this. We happened to have been visited by God. Most definitely it is a good idea to show Him—if you’re not in a position to pay gratitude—a curiousness at minimum.
AgentSakura ago
Amen brother
Xax ago
God bless you, Anon.
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Xax ago
God bless you, Pat. I’ll keep a close eye on your work. Prayers.
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Helena73 ago
Why the fuck are you arguing with me? I was making the opposite point: that christianity is not antithetical to ethnic identitarianism and does not imply passifism or being a doormat while you are invaded.
Xax ago
I was intending to reply to the comment you replied to.
Helena73 ago
Ok lol
hytreap ago
A lot of traditional Pagan religions have had a lot of their culture destroyed and appropriated by christcucks and the kike crusading genocide of the European people.
Because of this many of the traditional Pagan customs and traditions have been lost to us. The religions of our people have been rendered incomplete, and turned into myths for any culture to appropriate and use as stories. The Hollywood kikes being the biggest appropriators of all.
Additionally, the formation of a indigenous European identity or a heritage American identity has been denied to Whites by the ruling kike powers.
White communities are fighting a battle just to exist.
d3r ago
Can you recommend some reading? As we know, soo much our history has been altered, i'd love to read about the beliefs/way of life of the past.
Helena73 ago
Waah,waah, waah. 1700 years ago. Your worse than the blacks. But those IE religions still exist in India, go practice them Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism. Go rediscover your pagan roots.
lurklurk ago
Zoroastrianism is almost gone and hinduism and buddhism are only around anymore in India because sikhs stopped islamic slaughter orgy that was going there for centuries. Middle asia is culturally empty from anything tamerlane deemed non-islamic.
Abrahamic religions are poison to original cultures they occupy. Area I live in was conquered in northern crusades about 900 years ago. What followed was 800 years of being a colony for Sweden and Russia. They mostly used religion for pacifying populace to being good serfs and cannon fodder. There isn't much left from the old ways except some names of gods and holidays.
VoatIsRunByJews ago
Your purpose on Earth is to worship God, not form a white pagan identity. That's why we lost. There aren't that many generations left.
voatusernamevoat ago
You could but going off in the woods isn't necessary and doing so paints target on your back, being clustered and isolated, ripe for a strike, easy to paint a narrative with words like cult, compound, etc. not what I'd do, I stay marbled everywhere in civilization. Again, things can happen quickly for a small number of successful cases, from that I'd say it'd be a combination of long game with accelerated bursts that hurry things along. Elon went from nothing to the largest US and second largest car manufacturer in the world by market cap(174b, toyota #1 at 213b) in seventeen years.
Helena73 ago
The Amish generally dont live in the woods and the hassids definitely dont.
Whats the basis of your group/network, being white? That wouldnt call any attention. Not at all.
voatusernamevoat ago
The point is about being separate from main society, mentioning the woods wasn't to just specifically living the woods specifically, separating out you stick out. It's not a group/network, it's headless, just a call for race aware Whites to get into business, they can keep their race awareness completely to themselves, operating completely independent, vertically integrating their business so it can't be compromised, starting more and more businesses, best practice being businesses that are peripheral to each other, working out the connection chain as a guide on what to setup next. elon again as an example, electric car company, home power wall company, boring road company, battery company that supplies car and power walls, satellite internet company & space x, tied together. Again the difference is White owners, not jews, and no degeneracy/sjw/blm/etc. jew agenda pushing, which there are companies that exist today that fit that bill and existed before that jewing started so there's no neon sign screaming race aware White business empire, another benefit to this strategy.
voatusernamevoat ago
Trivia, mail ads have a 4.4% success rate, online .12%, a statistical 1-36 of those who have viewed this are considering going into business to counter the jew. It's a start.