Is there another place like Voat? I've about had it with this 'only working a third of the time' bullshit (whatever)

submitted ago by TestForScience

I like posting.

I like commenting.

I like reading people's posts.

I like reading people's comments.

I can't fucking do that here because the site is only working 1/3 of the time and halfway operational another 1/3 of the time, and finally, flat out broke the last 1/3 of the time.

Even when it's working, you have to wait, sometimes up to ten minutes, sometime more, before you can even view your own posts.

Icing on the cake is that it just keeps getting worse and worse.

Please tell me there's another Voat out there, somewhere.

HoIomonic ago

Come to poal. It's growing and will be even better once Dial gets banned again.

ratsmack ago

Why be so angry, we're just having fun here.

NiggadermCQ ago

Aether

FoundingUncle ago

Let he who is also a sysadmin without downtime throw the first stone.

I appreciate this place and the people who try to keep it up.

Mikaasaurus ago

"Disclose.tv is all about discussing and sharing topics ignored, denied, censored, suppressed, marginalized or inadequately covered by the mainstream media, governmental institutions, and other information gatekeepers."

Personally do not know if it's as legit as voat but at least they are trying ?

HootersMcBoobies ago

Join the Fediverse:

https://freespeechextremist.com/

social.quodverum.com

gab.com

If one server goes down, there are always plenty of others to create accounts on.

ratsmack ago

That was a great promotional post... you should be in advertising, or become a professional shill.

olltre ago

cya tomorrow

xpat ago

Don't shoot me, more of a reddit alternative, but occasionally interesting: https://saidit.net/

Bfwilley ago

Wow can't take a free site where free speech is respected and that gets it attacked, causing shut downs and lock downs?

Fuck off and got back to redditt or wherever you came from.

And if I wasn't clear enough the first time try this TestForScience.

FUCK OFF and get a STD fatal disfiguring disease and suffer painfully for many, many years then DIE.

Unmourned, unknown, unremembered. Then be thrown out like the trash you are, buried in the most convent hole like you are going to be anyway...And I mean that with all my heart, Really I do.

LOL! That's golden.

I will have to save that for later use.

lord_nougat ago

Yeah, there's this awesome site I just found and I think you'll love it!

reddit.com

lanre ago

Would you guys be interested in a chatroom style site with channels instead of a bulletin board system?

TestForScience ago

You mean like a Discord type thing?

lanre ago

Yeah, I was thinking something like that or slack, where the channels would replace subverses/subreddits. It'd be easy to forum slide posts I guess, but might be nice for smaller communities.

TestForScience ago

At first thought, I'd also think that it would really only be feasible with smaller communities, but I guess there's Discord channels that have over 100,000 users in them, so maybe it wouldn't be so hard.

InyourfaceNancyGrace ago

saidit.net is a place

Rabid_Robot ago

Freenode on IRC, ##politics-uncensored. I'd appreciate the activity. Look me up: Rabid_Raven

anticlutch ago

Poal is a (((Qkike))) boomer hive of degenerate faggotry.

Not_a_redfugee ago

I downvote all your posts complaining about downvoting

TestForScience ago

wut?

generic_voat_name ago

What the fuck are you trying to say faggot?

Nosfewratsjews ago

Notice Joint Operation Tel Aviv and Langley tried to boost this post to the top over the others, too.

generic_voat_name ago

What in the fuck does this mean?

Nosfewratsjews ago

You would appear to be just some average pleb jumping to conclusions and failing to recognize when others are suggesting their content is being weaponized to hide other content.

And since you made the laudable accusation that I downvoted you, I'll go ahead and actually downvote you so you can see by your two shiny downvotes how you were both wrong and your statement was false, all at the same time!

generic_voat_name ago

Wow, you can type a long sentence. Want a fucking ribbon? Nowhere in your rambling of words did you address anything pertinent to the conversation and I feel dumber after reading it. Go jerk off in your sock.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Poor Cletus, can't read plain English and comprehend it without a coloring book and some pastels.

generic_voat_name ago

You remind me of something I learned from my 4th or 5th grade teacher. She told me, "Never argue with an idiot because they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Nosfewratsjews ago

It was just a polite way of your teacher telling you that you are the idiot.

frankenmine ago

Try 4chan, Poal, Gab, Minds, Parler, KiwiFarms.

TestForScience ago

Didn't KiwiFarms just get a court order to turn over their servers?

0rion ago

Funny, because you've been here 4 months and actually have negative CCP, and ZERO submissions.

Maybe you should take a look in the mirror, faggot.

fuie8483djejx73 ago

do you not know who dial is or something

Nosfewratsjews ago

You must be new to this particular fight, Dial's been around since before you created an account.

cosMICjester ago

Try commenting on yah00 only a third of your comments show up. If they're too spicy they get removed. I just got permanently locked out of my my twitter account. I only sent a VA congresswoman a tweet saying Ben Carson was right about keeping mentally ill trans men out of abused women's shelters after she attacked him for it.

crazy_eyes ago

Go fuck yourself

Build your own website and keep it up all day when under constant attack.

TestForScience ago

I guess you don't bother reading, else you'd see that it's a 'maintenance' lock, not the DDOS one.

Why do people that don't know what they're talking about try so fucking hard to make sure everyone knows that?

crazy_eyes ago

Like they are not related

TestForScience ago

Then why do we have two, where one is for maintenance and the other is used for the DDOS's?

I feel like you're still not aware of what you're talking about.

crazy_eyes ago

Voat is currently in maintenance mode

Reasons for this may include:

Website is experiencing high volumes

We are being attacked by wolves

We are working on something

That is directly from the maintenance mode error page, did you see the first reason?

crazy_eyes ago

and you know the real reason for the maintenance message

Blompf ago

Poal.co is the best i've heard of.

gab is okay too.

speedisavirus ago

There are also faggot queers acting like they are reddit here deleting comments and banning people. I want an alternative.

TheWorstImaginable ago

Poal. Some really obnoxious voat members went over there and have been shitting around, but if more people went there it could only get better. This is a locked down dying platform. Deal with it, grow some roots elsewhere, help somewhere else grow and prosper, and come here if you want when it works. You can't count on voat to work anymore though, one day it's just not going to load ever again. Deal with it.

pimplepeter ago

yeah... the comment dialogue doesn't seem great over there.

BlackSheepBrouhaha ago

Discord, 4chan, and sometimes browse Poal.

There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home.

Waffles_The_Cat ago

At this point can I just pay a couple of bucks a month for premium access with no to minimal down time. I wonder how Putt is keeping the lights on.

Rotteuxx ago

It just means Putt has been served and can't communicate with us about it, he made it extremely obvious for everyone here a few months ago in an announcement.

Jumping ship is as pointless as trying to safely hand feed a hyena, if you said something stupid or bad in the past and you're on a list, they have all your Voat data already.

Lack of registration and public access is a direct response to that false flag manifesto posted on 8chan which got it shut down. Putt is avoiding giving cloudflare ammo to dumb Voat by limiting the ability to create MSM bait posts & have them used against the site... this was also in an announcement.

Derpfroot ago

MR. OBVIOUS has been advertising https://www.unsilencedvoice.com. And when I just went there they had an "Israel Is Right About Walls" post at the top....so it can't be that bad.

thewebofslime ago

Poal.co

Armpit_and_Ass ago

IMO, "down for maintenance" is Putt's way of rationing traffic. Think about when it happens most: In the morning, 7-8am; Mid-afternoon, 2-4ish, evenings, 5-10pm - all prime browsing times for various demographics. I think the unnamed benefactor that took over all the bills for the place earlier this year decided to cap expenses.

sniper98g ago

If you are just looking free speach, Kiwi Farms is an option, but they are big on doxing for fun too. If you go there, do not sign up with an email you have ever used before.

TheAmerican ago

Spoiled little baby. Guess what everything in your life isn't going to be exactly how you want it, buck up pussy.

yt4cz9 ago

poal.co, saidit.net,notabug.io

friendshipistragic ago

I was going to say that it’s not that bad but then Voat went into maintenance mode.

Wahaha ago

Wanted to upvoat you, but voat told me that wasn't possible at this moment.

user9713 ago

Underrated comment. 👍

HighEnergyLife ago

I cant tell if legit concernfagging or sarcastic cringe entitlement post. Either way fuck off, you're lucky the power is still on. Nobody owes you 99.999999999% uptime on a free site

963189_137 ago

99.999999999%

if only...

Sosacms ago

I'm reminded of The Little Red Hen.

Everyone wants the bread, but no one is willing to help make the bread. Voat runs better than any of the sites I've made, so I'm not gonna bitch much.

user9713 ago

https://voat.co/v/announcements/2934082

What is important to say is this:

  • Voat will remain a company dedicated to Freedom of Speech (and Privacy - more later)
  • I will remain CEO, will work solely on Voat in a full time capacity, and continue to make all decisions regarding policy moving forward
  • This deal was realistic and fair (no one is buying a yacht and retiring)
  • Voat will be given a reasonable budget to hire one or two employees (I will continue writing code myself as well)
  • Voat will be given partial assistance in operating costs, requiring us to fulfill the rest.

And if he needs more money, there's ways to do this, like allowing users to pay a small amount to guild threads/comments.

Sosacms ago

Nerd culture is best culture, if you give the community the a way to improve your product, they will.

I do wish Voat would tap into that a bit more.

user9713 ago

I think it used to be open-source, but Putt said that he didn't have the resources to patch security issues and the transparency of the source code was being abused.

963189_137 ago

Well, Cloudflare started 'acting up' a couple of days ago EXACTLY like they did before they took 8chan down. So I give VOAT today and tomorrow before the take it down permanently.

Nosfewratsjews ago

I chortle with amusement every day you plebs don't understand it's steadily being increased in the frustration level because the entire site is a fucking social experiment, and you're all volunteer participants.

obvious-throwaway- ago

I think most of us are by now aware that this is little more than a mossad/CIA honeypot that will one day expose us all and we'll all be unpersoned and homeless, tortured or dead. Might even be police raids where after they remove all of our electronic devices and just happen to "find" cp, terrorist plans or whatever other wrongthink material they can use to remove the mouthy goyim.

The reason I think most people don't care is because if it's going to happen, it's going to happen regardless. Maybe all of us being taken off to the gulag will wake up a few normies, but more than likely it won't sink in until they themselves are also being carted off to the same place. Either way, don't want to live as a slave in a country without free speech and will continue to use free speech regardless.

AnthraxAlex ago

Everyone who isn't a glownigger and still posts here's primary directive should be to take at least 3 with you before they kill you I'm not going to a fucking jewlag.

Nosfewratsjews ago

We believe the only free speech you will get is earned through taking back your rights and instituting a new Government.

We also believe that once the Globalist Establishment takes your guns away, it's too late.

Speech matters. Action matters more.

VicariousJambi ago

fear the jew, dont talk on here, it's a social experiment goy!

And I've been red pilling on reddit more lately anyways. Theres no debate left to really be had on voat anymore. Voat is still useful to spread ammunition, though

Nosfewratsjews ago

Voat is still useful to spread ammunition, though

I agree, if you sort everything by New and read the most downvoted content first.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

most downvoated content is most quality content. i seriously don't see how these people believe the jews have an iron grip on the media, religion, hollywood, etc., yet, Voat somehow is a stronghold, with an anon investor and a MIA devteam. fucking tragic.

i'd imagine this website is worth millions to he who wishes to influence the alt right, injecting whatever ideas they see fit.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Peter Thiel. Palantir.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

all the downvoats in the world do not sway your true allies. we are here.

fair warning, stay amorphous.

Nosfewratsjews ago

stay amorphous

Years of observing the tactics used to weaponize the consensus has led us to a very specific strategy for posting that relies on constantly calling out those who attack the individual instead of the information, ignoring the weaponization of being forced to defend ones self as a distraction, and the probing intended to get a talking point to attack later and stir up disinfo.

Nobody is perfect, but we hear you.

MoteMoteKek11 ago

This place blows huge cock now. It’s fucking sad, a few years ago there was so much to take in. Now it’s an obvious social experiment and anyone with any pattern recognition or wisdom can see this, and that’s why everyone of merit is gone... just another family the jew has ripped apart.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

u/xenoPsychologist

as you can see, i am not the only one who has come to this conclusion.

TheWorstImaginable ago

the (((builders))) are the ones who disagree, it's a cesspool here now. I have a feeling those outages are more targeted than random. Does everyone see it, or just us?

ShakklezthaKlown ago

lately this site is.. strange to say the least. inconsistencies and bad arguments, logical fallacies and emotional appeals galore..

as for the outages, i haven't enough perspective to say they are targetted, for all i know the site goes down for everyone at the same time.

then there is the theory that putt simply busted it, but that would be too simple knowing how the enemy likes to operate, especially after mystery investor appeared.

TheWorstImaginable ago

I personally have never posted those words

xenoPsychologist ago

i dont actually use those abbreviations often, so i havent. i do get the write fails occasionally. maybe ill have to test it.

xenoPsychologist ago

and he will be back again and again to complain and tell us how its a honeypot and everyone should leave. weird how theyre constantly here complaining instead of ever leaving.

MoteMoteKek11 ago

Putting words in my mouth faggot? I made an observation and then made a statement of fact. Never did I demand anyone to do anything.

xenoPsychologist ago

well, you stated an opinion. i stated an observation of how it goes every time someone makes those same statements. if you dont start, youll be the first.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

voat is not the bastion of hope you niggers are portraying it to be. there are other sites. as if every redpilled motherfucker on earth is here on voat.

xenoPsychologist ago

then leave. nothing of value will be lost. im sure the entire rest of the internet will be completely welcoming to your opinions.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

nah. i've decided to stay. if only out of spite ;) so be it.

xenoPsychologist ago

that was already going to happen.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

just like your destruction. funny that.

how does it feel to be quarantined, to be cornered?

xenoPsychologist ago

its gonna be good. might get to solve a problem or two.

VicariousJambi ago

Eh, not really. Like on v/whatever/new theres only 1 post on the new page with downvoats and it's just some drama fagging.

Sosacms ago

Um.... Aren't you on Voat too?

Nosfewratsjews ago

We're here to warn you stupid faggots, knowing full well you won't listen because you plebs literally live with blinders on in your day to day lives.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

i like you.

tokui ago

We

So, special, like, (((Chosen))) goats?

Nosfewratsjews ago

Do you have an opinion or position on the continued downtime and silence from Voat's management?

tokui ago

Fairly certain he's keeping low profile until 8kum is online. I'll just point you to his marked embrace of Q migrants to imply a connx. The "he wants numbers up" argument doesn't hold water - they were coming whether he made a statement on it or not.

8kon coming online isn't just flipping a switch, they're laying "structural" groundwork that will likely affect other open plats such as voat.

I'm in the camp that suspects, until disproved, despite calls to board ownees, that 8koon is a decoy and the final plat could be different url.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Fairly certain he's keeping low profile until 8kum is online.

Possible. Or he's moved onto a new project and this one is more or less abandoned. At what point would it become too obvious to debate?

I'll just point you to his marked embrace of Q migrants to imply a connx.

Did this happen before or after the "Angel"?

8kon coming online isn't just flipping a switch, they're laying "structural" groundwork that will likely affect other open plats such as voat.

Anything is possible.

I'm in the camp that suspects, until disproved, despite calls to board ownees, that 8koon is a decoy and the final plat could be different url.

We're loosely in the same camp, though there is some blurry specifics we probably don't see eye to eye on.

tokui ago

Did this happen before or after the "Angel"?

his marked embrace of Q migrants

Way before.

Armpit_and_Ass ago

We're

You got a mouse in your pocket or something?

Nosfewratsjews ago

Your biggest weakness is having the views and opinions of a single account represented by one single human capable of being easily rounded up and silenced.

We don't share this flaw.

Wahaha ago

Wow, that's actually pretty neat. Not sure why the niggerfaggots downvoated your account. I just would have trouble finding other people I trust enough to pull this off, too.

Nosfewratsjews ago

I'm pretty sure we both know why the downvotes are so heavy.

To censor the obvious solutions the subversives that currently control Voat don't like.

This censorship works because the proles don't counter it.

Armpit_and_Ass ago

We

There's that word again.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Legitimate question, but are you retarded? Or did you simply ignore the plain English explanation above the word you quoted?

Armpit_and_Ass ago

Well, I guess retarded is catchy, then, because I don't see in your plain English explanation where you actually answered the question of who "we" is.

Nosfewratsjews ago

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Your stupidity is the reason you're in this situation to begin with.

Armpit_and_Ass ago

Can't help but notice that you're still not answering.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

he's trying to tell you that the answers can't always be spoonfed to you, some paths are meant to be seeked out, not just given to you.

Armpit_and_Ass ago

Let me just remind you of the sequence of events that has just taken place here:

  1. @Nosfewratsjews continually refers to self in the plural.
  2. Someone (me) eventually notices and asks why.
  3. @Nosfewratsjews replies with unrelated, nonsensical gibberish, but does not answer question.
  4. When pressed further, @Nosfewratsjews throws out more word salad, and also something about jews.
  5. When confronted about refusal to answer legitimate question with actual, direct answer, @Nosfewratsjews accuses me of being a fed and/or jew or something.

So far, the possible answers include (but are not limited to):

A. @Nosfewratsjews has a mouse in his pocket.

B. @Nosfewratsjews has more than one person using his account.

C. @Nosfewratsjews is schizophrenic and quite likely mildly retarded.

D. @Nosfewratsjews is the Master Po to my Kwai Chang Caine, and is actually trying to teach me what is the sound of one hand clapping, but I'm just waaaaay too stupid to realize it.

Guess which answer I'm going to go with.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

man i don't give a fuck anymore, i'm jew guy now. treat me as you would a resident jew.

Armpit_and_Ass ago

You must be a part of the nebulous "we".

Nosfewratsjews ago

Can't help but notice

You're either a subversive or you don't notice much. Either way, we're not here to help you so we'll just break off from this pointless waste of time and let someone else with more patience fill you in if they care to do so.

Armpit_and_Ass ago

we're

In all the nonsense you've shat out on the internet over this, you could have saved yourself about 99% of the typing and just said

we're qtards

or

we're a rambunctious gang of fanny pirates

or whatever.

Next time, don't try so hard to look smart. You might even be able to fool someone.

Armpit_and_Ass ago

What information? You haven't provided us with any information. We are still waiting for you to answer the question.

Wahaha ago

Dude, it's a bunch of kids in a trench coat pretending to be a single person or one level above that one guy, pretending to be a bunch of kids in a trench coat who are open about being a bunch of kids in a trench coat. Either way it's a cool concept and you get to use the royal 'we' while both sounding retarded and smart at the same time, depending on who looks at you.

Armpit_and_Ass ago

We accept your explanation, and are happy you have provided us with this explanation.

Nosfewratsjews ago

WhiteRonin, is that you?

HiJoker ago

No dumbfuck, you're not answer the goddamn question.

There, you are filled in.

Anoxim ago

He's trying to say that multiple people use one account.

Nosfewratsjews ago

They both know that, they're doing the tried and true fishing for more detail when none will be given.

It's a game we like to call "spot the disinfo fed poster".

Armpit_and_Ass ago

He's a fucking schizo, if anything.

Sosacms ago

Oh ya totally. Everyone's buying it too.

Nosfewratsjews ago

You're a joke.

Sosacms ago

Fair.

generate ago

putt sold us and ran away, there has never been any DDoS

ALIENS2222 ago

Poal.Co

CountryWaffles ago

Isn’t that....50%?

TestForScience ago

I can't fucking do that here because the site is only working 1/3 of the time and halfway operational another 1/3 of the time, and finally, flat out broke the last 1/3 of the time.

three separate thirds, when put together, equal a whole.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Boomer math.

go1dfish ago

You're all welcome at https://notabug.io I started it when Voat was having downtime issues a couple years back and have been working to make it reliable and fast since then.

Glory_Beckons ago

notabug.io

nab.cx

USERS MUST BE WARNED: This website hijacks your browser!

It constantly downloads and uploads data in the background. It begins doing this immediately upon visiting the site, without asking or telling the user about it. Most unnervingly, it continues to do this even after you close all tabs of the website. The only way to get it to stop is to completely shut down the browser. Check your network usage.

I'm not even sure how you managed to achieve that. I would have expected any JavaScript running in the background to terminate when the tab is closed.

Presumably this is some sort of p2p distribution scheme to serve content. But that is really just a guess, and giving you undue benefit of the doubt. The user has no way of knowing or controlling what you send and receive using their computer and internet connection. You don't even tell them that you're doing it. The fact that it doesn't stop until they shut down the browser doesn't really inspire trust.

I understand the benefits of distributed hosting, and applaud every effort to prevent censorship, but:

  • You cannot be doing that without the users knowledge and explicit permission
  • You should not be doing that without giving the user metrics, diagnostics and filters (or at least an on-off switch)
  • You absolutely must not continue to do it, covertly in the background, after the website tabs are closed

That trifecta makes your site shady as fuck.

Tagging the people who commented since they likely visited your site and may still have this running without their knowledge:

@blumen4alles @Wahaha @lord_nougat @ggolemg

Of course, there are many who clicked your link but never commented. They'll probably never know, unless they happen to come back and see this comment.

Wahaha ago

How did you monitor the network? Just doing network inspection via Firefox tools doesn't show shady traffic for me. (Firefox, Linux)

Glory_Beckons ago

I used bmon and arm (Linux terminal tools).

blumen4alles ago

Thanks for looking out for us! I read all of that, and go1dfish's reply (and your reply to that) - that is quite spooky to have a site still sending & receiving data after you close its tab, or even to suspect it.

I have not noticed anything like that, though I don't monitor my traffic that closely. I do however disconnect from the internet when I am not using it, and monitor my cpu load constantly. As well as now decades of experience going on sites that may be malicious (usually to pirate stuff).

If you are able to duplicate this happening please do ping me.

For now, I will keep an eye out for this, but I don't think there is anything malicious with go1dfish's sites. They seem like a good goat who is just trying to provide alternatives for our community should Voat go down. They people behind Poal are/were also Voaters. I applaud their efforts, which usually get funded out of their own pockets, and they spend long hours making things better.

It does work differently than other sites, you can tell by the way it loads content. I won't pretend to understand exactly how it works, but I don't think any of my using those sites has harmed me or my machine in any way.

Still I love a good conspiracy, and what you described if really happening - oh my. If this is really happening can we please not call it "XXXX-gate"? I hate when they do that shit, so gay.

Glory_Beckons ago

No worries man. It was really freaky. Especially the continued traffic after closing the tab, I don't know how that's possible.

I'm really kicking myself for not taking screenshots or looking further into what exactly was being sent. I'm really curious what was actually going on now. But didn't have much time then, and prioritized posting the warning. Oh well, better a false alarm than no alarm.

Wahaha ago

Since browsers adopted the "tabs-are-their-own-thing" philosophy, I could imagine closing a tab without really stopping the process. Like the old firefox error where you can't start it, since it detects an old instance running, even though you closed it. And then it maybe had a page open with the chat and since lots of goats went over there yesterday, they generated traffic, which isn't reproducible now that the site doesn't experience lots of goats fooling around with it.

That's my try at explaining it without assuming malicious intent from anyone.

Glory_Beckons ago

And then it maybe had a page open with the chat and since lots of goats went over there yesterday, they generated traffic, which isn't reproducible now that the site doesn't experience lots of goats fooling around with it.

Yeah, I was thinking about that too. The additional traffic might also have triggered Cloudflare to be more aggressive, and maybe block Tor traffic, causing infinite retries and slow loading.

Whatever it was, I can't reproduce it now.

go1dfish ago

If you could explain a bit more about what you are seeing here I could help you diagnose it.

Notabug does not attempt to, and as you mention has no real means to communicate in the background after you close all tabs.

It uses websockets (socketcluster specifically) for data transfer, and is entirely realtime so it's normal for it to maintain a persistent data connection, but not normal for that to persist after you close it. The only site it talks to this way is notabug.io itself.

It's also not engaging in distributed hosting from your browser yet though this is planned in the future as an opt-in feature.

Glory_Beckons ago

It's not happening now. It was when I posted that comment.

The site as a whole is also much more responsive now. It was very slow opening posts to read comments before. Sometimes it would just hang on "waiting for data", showing the matrix of 9 blinking dots forever. Now, it often doesn't show that at all and just loads comments right away.

At first I figured it was just a buggy and slow site. Noting that @ggolemg also commented that it was slow reinforced this. I closed the tabs I had open, and moved on thinking nothing more of it.

Hours later, I happened to notice my network usage fluctuating at around 300 - 500 kB/s both up and down stream, even though I wasn't expecting any network traffic. I investigated, ultimately tracking it down to the browser I was using for Voat, in which I also opened your site (though those tabs were long gone). Closing the browser made network traffic drop to 0 instantly.

Having a hunch it was your site, since it was the only new thing I visited, but doubting myself since the tabs had been closed hours ago, I set about reproducing the condition. I tested it twice, in a clean VM, with nothing else running. Both times I was able to reproduce it. This is what I did and observed:

  1. Launch VM, start browser and network monitor
  2. Open Voat, log in, navigate to this post
  3. Observe normal network traffic throughout, dies down to 0 after loading pages
  4. Click on link in your original comment above
  5. Observe large but brief spike in network traffic, followed by steady fluctuating ~70-100 kB/s up and down
  6. Wait several minutes, clicking nothing, just sitting on your homepage
  7. Steady up and down stream continues throughout, remains stable at ~70-100 kB/s
  8. Close tab
  9. Traffic continues unchanged
  10. Wait several minutes
  11. Traffic continues unchanged
  12. Close browser
  13. Traffic dies instantly

Again, I repeated this twice with nothing else running. Browser was up to date and auto-updates are off anyway. Strange traffic started immediately upon loading your site, and stopped immediately upon closing the browser. But no effect closing the tab.

The steady rate was notably lower in my tests than when I first noticed the phenomenon "in the wild". I assume this is either because the tab wasn't open as long or, more likely, because I only had one tab open. I didn't bother investigating further, since it was clear your site was causing the strange traffic and, from my perspective, the obvious fix is to simply not visit your site anymore.

Attempting to reproduce it now, I'm not seeing anything unusual at all. Only a ~100 Byte blip every 10 seconds. Probably keep-alive for the websockets.

If this isn't you, and you haven't changed anything in the last 9 hours, I would be concerned about a potential breach or injection of malicious code.

If I happen to encounter it again, I'll have a closer look and maybe take some screenshots or a video to show you.

go1dfish ago

Thanks for the response.

A much older version of the site used service workers (as is default with create-react-app) I wonder if perhaps that was related. If you were testing in a clean vm there is no way you would have gotten that old code though; and even then there was nothing there that should be causing traffic after closing tabs.

While a tab is open, it's normal for notabug to continue using traffic, there are periodic keep-alive pings and also any changes on the site are live broadcast so you see the changes (most commonly chat) If you open a browser inspector you can see this in the /socketcluster request

The only thing it should be connecting to is notabug.io (through cloudflare) Under no circumstances to visitors connect directly to each other or anything like that right now.

Currently notabug.io and nab.cx are running slightly different frontend versions but talking to the same backend.

Glory_Beckons ago

I've played around with it some more and cannot reproduce it. I'm kicking myself for not taking screenshots or digging more earlier.

Have you really no changed anything since I posted my original comment? It was behaving very differently... the whole site was sluggish, and now is perfectly responsive.

I didn't check what it was connecting to, just the amount of traffic. The p2p hypothesis was based on your GitHub saying:

distributed: peers backup/serve content

I think I only ran the tests with notabug, but I had opened nab as well before that.

One possible explanation might be a combination of my using Tor, your server using Cloudflare, and your client attempting to fetch live updates. Cloudflare sometimes decides to intercept Tor traffic and either block outright or replace the response with a captcha challenge.

What would happen your update attempts were blocked, or received a CloudFlare "Attention Required!" captcha challenge as the response, instead of the expected response data? Would they retry? Would they retry instantly? Is the retry implemented as a callback of sorts, that might persist after closing the tab as long as it keeps looping? That might explain the constant inbound traffic.

Looking at your normal traffic though, it looks like any inbound update is accompanied by a smaller, but simultaneous and more or less proportional outbound spike. Like this or this. Maybe that would explain the similar constant outbound traffic?

Not sure why I can't reproduce it now though. Maybe down to CloudFlare being extra aggressive yesterday?

This is a lot of speculation though.

Wahaha ago

I tried the site yesterday, but it didn't feel sluggish to me. (Ryzen 7 1800x)

Thanks for the heads up, btw.

go1dfish ago

Have you really not changed anything since I posted my original comment? It was behaving very differently... the whole site was sluggish

Haven't touched anything since sunday, and even that wasn't live.

Would they retry? Would they retry instantly? Is the retry implemented as a callback of sorts, that might persist after closing the tab as long as it keeps looping? That might explain the constant inbound traffic.

Would they retry? Would they retry instantly?

It would retry the websocket connection this is handled by socketcluster.io

That still wouldn't explain behavior after closing the tab, it might cause weirdness if the tab was left open and cloudflare blocked you though.

Looking at your normal traffic though, it looks like any inbound update is accompanied by a smaller, but simultaneous and more or less proportional outbound spike. Like thisPNG or this. Maybe that would explain the similar constant outbound traffic?

What happens is your browser is subscribed to one or more lists of ids for whatever you're looking at. When a new item comes in you get the id. Your client has to request the data for that new content though and this causes some outbound traffic. I think there may be some cases where it does this unnecessarily for data you already have though.

This is why I suggested looking at the browser inspector. All of the traffic (other than fetching the js/images) happens over the /socketcluster connection and you can watch all the incoming and outgoing messages and they are largely readable and understandable.

blumen4alles ago

It is a great site, especially for seeing what reddit censors, doesn't load the comments on my Firefox based browsers though, so I have to use Brave or Opera usually. I try to mention it in comments here when appropriate so more goats know about it. Thanks for creating/maintaining it!

go1dfish ago

You're thinking of https://snew.notabug.io which is different. Your issues are likely due to content blockers disliking snew.notabug.io making offsite access to oauth.reddit.com and api.pushshift.io if you whitelist that stuff you should be fine.

https://notabug.io is newer, and totally separate from reddit, though it does reuse the UI style/code. The backend is all new and maintained by me and designed for eventual decentralization.

blumen4alles ago

Huh, I will try whitelisting those. Thanks for the tip! I keep my main browsers locked down, only use the others when I have to.

I really dig the nab.cx appearance. What is firehose, does that just display any recent site input?

go1dfish ago

Yeah the firehose is all submissions comments and chat as it happens

Wahaha ago

Where is the light offs button?

lord_nougat ago

Oh, that's the one that says "Delete account" on it.

go1dfish ago

https://nab.cx

Alternate frontends and configs, same backend.

Eventually, the plan is to allow anyone to point their domain to my service and customize the config for it. That way you can build your community at a url you own and if I become a tyrant you can take your ball to some other home.

Wahaha ago

I like the idea. Thanks for sharing, will check this out.

I also read you want to make this easy for others to set up. Are you familiar with containers and stuff, like Docker? That could make setup pretty easy, while allowing you to keep the necessary complexities.

go1dfish ago

Yeah I'm familiar with docker, and would like to offer docker setup eventually but dont want it to be a requirement.

I want you to be able to clone the repo, yarn build, yarn start (answer some config questions at some point) and have a running peer.

This doesn't preclude more advanced multi-machine setups; but that's what I want to be the default. This is another reason I moved away from redis; I can embed lmbd in node as just a npm install.

It's not there yet, but getting quite a bit closer.

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ggolemg ago

Thank you for it, I just wish it wasn't so slow. What would help the situation? Can we look at running the gun.db on redis maybe? Let me know how I can help.

go1dfish ago

It's slow for you now? Is it overusage of CPU, network latency etc...?

I did run things on redis for a a while but moved to lmdb.

Part of the slowness is inherent to the model, the idea is to let the client have end say over filtering and end view so it gets sent more data than it would get otherwise. Things are designed so the server can be relatively dumb and scalable.

The next stage of it is for me to return the site to doing http requests for gets rather than using websockets and this will potentially allow for more cdn cacheing etc...

Once I finish that up (probably next weekend) I'll do another writeup over the state of nab's design and try to get more devs involved.

This design will be amenable to moving the db back to redis, but that gets potentially quite expensive as data grows.

A goal of my design is for it to be cheap to operate and ideally easy to setup. Still working on the easy setup bit but getting closer. The newer design should allow for easy setups using lmdb, or more advanced setups using redis on the same codebase.

Code is at:

https://github.com/notabugio/ and https://github.com/chain-gun

Barfin ago

yeah fix yo damn site

jimibulgin ago

There is another site kind of like Voat. It is ostensibly a news aggregator, but it also as a lot of original content like memes and pictures and stuff. I think it gets astro-turfed sometimes, but really, what social site doesn't these days?? I think its call ReadIt or Reddit or something like that.

mtlmjk ago

Bwaaahahaha

Adminstrater ago

Voat is unique. You will find others, you will not replace this place.

I hope the maintenance issues stop, but I would rather have intermittent access than no access what so ever.

pimplepeter ago

i agree with this sadly. It is unique. other sites are "similar". but the general vibe and intellect is unmatched.

MoteMoteKek11 ago

You right brained docile faggot.

Armpit_and_Ass ago

at least i only get kicked in the balls three times a day instead of five

generic_voat_name ago

Go outside faggot and do something else.

undertheshills ago

But it's dark and I live near niggers

generic_voat_name ago

Grow some balls bitch.

0rion ago

Honestly, this is the best advice anyone has given so far.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

Cya!

Afterlife ago

Always the chans. 16 is doing all right

blumen4alles ago

Not that I found. I read on Poal yesterday (when Voat was down, again) that now they have it so you can also see who dv's your comments (you have to be a certain level member). I bet that really pisses off fuckwit gabara and the SBBH fags. I think it is a great idea, and given how quickly I was attacked (by gabara) at the suggestion we do something similar here tells me all I need to know about them.

I am not jumping ship yet though. It gets frustrating but my loyalty won't allow me to quit.

GoldShekelSteinBerg ago

@gabara sucks kike cock.

ShakklezthaKlown ago

we should do that here. dv brigades would be exposed instantly.

smokratez ago

Poal is too many old atheist faggots jerking off about space, while they are too dumb to realize they are in a sand nigger cult.

Hyst ago

I suggested that idea here about a year or two back and the Soapbox kikes came down hard on my account. I'm amazed more people aren't aware of their site wide manipulation.

TheWorstImaginable ago

They're BUILDERS, you fucking kike! /sarc

Nosfewratsjews ago

Team Israel (JIDF in Tel Aviv and their puppet FBI in Langley, respectively) has successfully isolated and run off most people who are both aware and vocal.

The rest of the sleeping community either doesn't notice, doesn't care to defend them, or both.

Nosfewratsjews ago

I read on Poal yesterday (when Voat was down, again) that now they have it so you can also see who dv's your comments (you have to be a certain level member).

It's almost like nobody has ever made this recommendation before! ("What can be done?" #2: https://voat.co/v/ideasforvoat/3243355/). SBBH attacked that idea, too - what a (((coincidence)))!

SBBH has an embassy on Voat, it's just that their Voat tactics are not effective with Poal's technical system. Doesn't mean the joint Tel Aviv and Langley task force won't adapt, eventually.

Peter Thiel probably bought Putt out so he could experiment with the community (especially the Qews) using Palantir, and Poal.co is probably the by-design fallback to let Palantir study people migrating from one to the other, likely to monitor variances in behavior based on the rules and technical features. From one walled garden to another, so to speak, since Poal has just implemented the best of the recomendations on Voat that got ignored by Putt and the rest of the management over time.

Wouldn't be surprised if Putt isn't involved in develoment of a new platform, or even Poal since Poal keeps implementing all the Voat preview features and/or Voat's best recommended features by the user-base. Voat might as well be abandoned at this point, and if I was Putt I sure as hell wouldn't advertise the new location because the SBBH Jew/FBI subversives and the brainless useless eater Qew plebs would follow like a horde of locusts and destroy the new location just like they consumed and destroyed Voat.

At what point does all this become as obvious to the rest of you as it already is to us? How many more times does reality need to beat you over the head before you see what's going on?

Chimaira92 ago

Wouldn't be surprised if Putt isn't involved in develoment of a new platform, or even Poal since Poal keeps implementing all the Voat preview features and/or Voat's best recommended features by the user-base.

Thats because the people who went and made Poal were loyal users to Putt/Atko who helped implement key features and the main issue was that the Canary was never updated in a timely fashion, making it essentially useless. Thats if I recall correctly.

Phantom42 ago

Hey, you said Qews!

Finally someone else uses it.

Nosfewratsjews ago

It's the most accurate description for the subset of users we could come up with.

Phantom42 ago

Indeed.

subscribetopewdiepie ago

What killed voat was idiots calling for violence and got the site served by the feds.

Wahaha ago

What killed voat was the feds calling for violence and got the site served by the feds.

What?

MOGA ago

A while back 5 or so bad actors started making posts and comments directly calling for and threatening violence on various specific individuals. It was obvious they were intentionally posting shit that regular users would never post, and they did it all of a sudden and coordinated.

It was a matter of debate whether they were working for a news outlet or an agency. It seemed to me just so they could tell their bosses "Look, 20 different people upvoated this call for murder" or "5 different people commented approvingly" so either Vice could write a story "exposing the illegality and viciousness of the supremacists" or Agent Smith could get a warrant for user information/ IP logs from Voat.

Regardless of who initiated it, Smith got his warrants first, and Putt had to make a post telling Voat to "cool it with the threats" and explaining how he had to 'cooperate with law enforcement' without going into the specifics that a gag order would silence. Vice posted an article almost immediately after Putt made the post, decrying how Voat's admin had to berate it's users for being violent white supremacists. The warrant canary hasn't been updated since.

Chimaira92 ago

I think thats a bit too black and white.

Comments like "Americans have the right to regulate themselves as an armed militia unit, this is the proper reasoning behind the 2nd Amendment" could be considered a call to violence.

It was obvious they were intentionally posting shit that regular users would never post, and they did it all of a sudden and coordinated.

Can you link to any archives of any of the posts?

MOGA ago

I didn't archive anything, just telling Wahaha what I observed. There were a lot of direct targeting comments made. There was a post about a NYT writer that someone had commented with his twitter handle and address and said something like "We need to shoot this guy in the head, who here is close to this neighborhood, pm me" and others along the same lines.

Anyone who has been here more than a week knows there is a huge difference between saying "When shtf the bankers need to be strung up first" and saying "this specific branch manager is Jewish, here is a picture of his car, someone needs to / I'm going to / plant a bomb." Most know of the line between a political view (Blacks are destroying my city) and a direct threat/ call to violence (This specific black person robbed a liquor store in my city and we need to execute him).

I only saw directly 3 different accounts, and the ages were 6 mo, 8 mo, and 1.3 years and they all had several hundred to a thousand scp/ccp, so it seemed on the surface to be regular users.

capnflummox ago

Vice posted an article

All you stated was invalidated by this sentence fragment.

TheWorstImaginable ago

I've done that, indirectly. Violence is the only thing that will save us.

subscribetopewdiepie ago

So organize anti government acts on a board monitored by the government?

TheWorstImaginable ago

Not organize, raise awareness that things are going to have to get gnarly

subscribetopewdiepie ago

If that's all people were doing voat wouldn't have gotten served.

TheWorstImaginable ago

I think it's been shown that most incitement, child porn posts etc have historically been saboteur types. I could be wrong.

Broc_Lia ago

Everywhere is monitored by the government. If you can sign up and post, then so can an alphabet boi.

subscribetopewdiepie ago

So again, what are you trying to accomplish?

Chimaira92 ago

The utilisation of Free Speech.

The governments should fear the citizens, not the other way around.

H3r0n ago

Kill all lobbyists

Nosfewratsjews ago

Uhh, no. What killed Voat was the management abandoning it.

subscribetopewdiepie ago

Putt admitted to being served awhile back, that's why he went quiet.

StarbuckAndCasey ago

When/if he comes back and makes a comment/post you will see slurpy dick-sucking replies the jews would be proud of.

Hyst ago

Genuine question, do you not remember Putt siding with the Qtards asking the rest of the community to treat them kindly because Putt said he liked them and wanted them here?

I mean aren't we also still in isolation mode?

DrSelfAppointed ago

https://i.imgtc.ws/KwziMvq.jpg

The great betrayal. Never Forget.

Hyst ago

Ohmylordthough-- How could I have known about that situation I described. I DIDN'T EXIST BACK THEN!?

Nosfewratsjews ago

Was it before or after the "Angel" investor?

Hyst ago

Actually well before it if I'm remembering correctly. It was around the very first wave of the Qultists.

Nosfewratsjews ago

So back when Putt was still trying to figure out how to monetize Voat.. before the "Angel" investor.

blumen4alles ago

I don't think he was looking for money for the Q-cumbers. He was looking for numbers. It seemed to almost double our user-base very quickly. I don't mind them for the most part. I try to be nice and help when I can, they seem to be good people with their hearts/intentions in the right place. Granted many of their submissions aren't the best, and it annoys me how almost every QRV post is anonymous & tagged NSFW - when it isn't NSFW, and I dislike anon stuff for the most part.

Still, they are exposed to many red pills if they use this site, even if they mostly stick to their Q related subs. Most of my front page is now HDLunited or hiddenlol - they are an active group with great content that reminds me of old Voat.

I try to give them a break, after all they are just another version of myself.

Hyst ago

There's honestly something that separates the cultists from the rest of Voaters though. In my eyes they're not much better than SJWs, because after being lied to a thousand times they're still zealots. There's no reasoning with them. I try to be kind as well, and at first I had patience with them and would try to engage them in conversation-- but it was useless. I mean seriously though, I would ask them pretty straight forward questions about some of the known Q predictions that fell flat and they would straight up say that Q never made those predictions. Then it's like ok well the community certainly believed it and was regurgitating it over and over. Oh those were just shills. It's kind of mind numbing.

I mean they were seriously pushing the idea that secret military tribunals were killing off high level "traitors". If you ask them about that now they act like you're a crazy shill. It's fucking insane...

And much like SJWs, if you ask them to put their beliefs in their own words they're almost always incapable of doing so. They just regurgitate talking points.

kneo24 ago

I try to be nice and help when I can, they seem to be good people with their hearts/intentions in the right place.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

tokui ago

the nsfw is bc of soapfaggots bullying there with porn.

fault: soap civnat kikes

963189_137 ago

Why are the Qews so retarded? How many of them are chatbots?

Nosfewratsjews ago

I have heavy opinions here, but no evidence so I will abstain from sharing my theories.

With that said, the number of chatbots or news posting propaganda bots on Voat are both Legion, and not limited to just the Qews safe spaces.

963189_137 ago

Yep, I agree. They probably couldn't 'master the human domain' without them. Anything to keep the prols from revolting against an illegitimate and unfair 'globalist government' full of subhumans that will enslave us and our children (not that there is any difference between the jew government and the subhuman trash government that came after it).

Nosfewratsjews ago

Q was the best PSYOP for the "Homer Simpson" part of the US Citizen population I've ever seen.

963189_137 ago

Truth! I can't believe how rabid those cult members are...and how strange their beliefs are when you get into it with them. They actually believe that if WW1WAG things would be different than they are now...how crazy is that? I mean, if WE ALL GO THERE, HOW CAN THINGS BE DIFFERENT? Hell-O?

Nosfewratsjews ago

There is no such thing as a non-violent Revolution.

Government does not fix itself.

Anyone who tries to convince you that the worlds problems will be solved if you just don't do anything and let them handle it with your best interest in mind is peddling lies you are responsible for seeing through.

You can't save everyone. Not everyone should be saved.

963189_137 ago

Truth again. I wouldn't even want to try. I am only interested in my own people and of those, only the productive people who are not parasitic on society.

whatdoesthereeesay ago

whats dv?

1_61803399 ago

Lol, down votes.

963189_137 ago

You can see who dv's your comments here?

Hyst ago

You're fired.

963189_137 ago

Finally! Thanks, boss...I have been waiting for someone to fire me. Now seriously, can you see who downvotes your comments?

blumen4alles ago

No, you can't. You can on Poal if your account is 6 or higher. I think at 8 or higher you can see who dv's your submissions.

963189_137 ago

Thank you, fellow Kraut. I appreciate your service.

blumen4alles ago

It is annoying when you ask a simple question and someone gives a smartass answer. You are welcome :)

dunklederf ago

this was suggested before as a feature for voat, i think everyone pretty unanimously agreed it'd be a good idea.

blumen4alles ago

Except for the "Voat SRS" crew. They want to remain hidden to most of us.

dunklederf ago

only those opposed to transparency have something to hide

blumen4alles ago

Well I had a stalker for a while, would use searchvoat.co to find every comment I made and downvote it. Still my CCP kept rising, I just had to make my comments count. I think the jews were trying to annoy or discourage me so I would quit Voat.

Wahaha ago

Don't you go making arguments for the government installing live feeds into everyone's living rooms.

ratsmack ago

Just hang out on Poal, Minds or Gab until it comes back online.

Wahaha ago

Not Gab. Gab openly censors shit they don't like.

ratsmack ago

Okay, give me an example... I've seen the same BS many times over and no one has shown me something that was censored.

ratsmack ago

That's just pedo shit and should be banned from all sites. In fact, all porn should be forced behind paywall's with nothing available for free.

I guess you also believe CP should be available.

Wahaha ago

I'm saying you can't claim to be uncensored when you censor the stuff you hate. Hence Gab should be avoided if you want a free platform and not just a different flavor of censorship. If you're unable to appreciate what a free platform entails, then please leave Voat. You're kind always leads to more censorship. Maybe I could interest you for other places that enjoy censoring things they don't like. I heard Twitter is pretty good at selectively enforcing rules to ban people they don't like, too.

TestForScience ago

Remember when Putt banned that Aged guy for posting his faggot cartoon-kids bullshit, then half the site got mad at him for it so he undid the ban?

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fightknightHERO ago

is poal free from censorship?

if so, what subs are noteworthy? i've seen the frontpage and it's basically 9gag faggotry without the redpills

963189_137 ago

Free from censorship? VOAT is not 'free from censorship'. You need to pay attention to the subtleties of VOAT. Start talking about bioweapons and the whole site goes down. I can almost guarantee that the moment I start talking seriously about what needs to happen in terms of race-specific bioweapons to PRESERVE OUR OWN PEOPLE that the site will go down and it will stay down for about 30 minutes. There are somethings that they just don't want you to think about. They desperately want you to 'fight a conventional war' where they will gradually murder all of you. The last thing on the fucking planet they want is for ANY OF US to survive. White genocide is real.

Shotinthedark ago

So what type of bioweapons are we talking about? Pitbulls with aids would be pretty effective.

HarlandKornfeld14 ago

if so, what subs are noteworthy

Its userbase is small compared to Voat, even with all the issues here. Just browse the "all" section.

ratsmack ago

It's no different than Voat.

fightknightHERO ago

but it fucking works

which means it either didn't caught the ire of ZOG yet, or it's not an obstacle for ZOG

every time a service gets extremely popular and redpilling, it gets either taken over or plainly shoah'ed

i still miss stream.me

963189_137 ago

That is because they are trying to stop or stall the inevitable civil war in the USA. They know they will lose and they don't want to lose their grip over the whole planet. There is A FUCKING LOT at stake here. We are the largest military on the planet. We are the only thing that can stop them and restore ORDER.

jimibulgin ago

is poal free from censorship?

You can say "Jews did 9/11" on Poal and you won't get banned. Does that answer your question?

Any new uncensored site will go full 1488 within about a month.

Astroqualia ago

"Any new uncensored site will go [CIA - 1488] within about a month"

FTFY

As if the intelligent people dont realize that the CIA honey pots any popular free speech site with "hate group bullshit" to turn away normies and make the site able to be posted about as "alt right wing racist paradise" to which even more normies will be turned away from.

Wahaha ago

No, I'm more concerned about the stuff people that say "Jews did 9/11" don't like. For example a jailbait sub or something like that. It's only free from censorship when you can post stuff the site owners hate.

jimibulgin ago

valid point.

Or are you just looking for jailbait pics?

TheWorstImaginable ago

google image search. I can't find pics of legal age teen sluts without finding 10:1 weird as fuck risque photoshoots of 11 year olds in bikinis spreading their legs. It's pretty revolting.

Wahaha ago

I've got all the jailbait pics I need, which is zero. It's just the only stuff I can think of that is legal and non-political that people on Voat dislike enough to want it banned. Though, I think I prefer Loli stuff as a kind of canary for free speech, since it's just drawings. On the other hand I'd concede the jailbait thing with that position, which I don't like, either, mostly because I hate the concept of moral police. It's kind of a difficult topic, but if I'm going to err, I want to err on the side of freedom, meaning I'd rather have one thing less on the "things to ban" list.

fightknightHERO ago

Any new uncensored site will go full 1488 within about a month.

ain't that the truth... i do question who inhabit the site though, as it is clear voat is the superior site when it comes to seeking redpills and memeful content

THEx1138 ago

The enemy is at the gates and you want to leave? Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

0rion ago

Dude fuck off with this faggy LARPing bullshit. Voat is clearly dying, and Puttitout clearly gives no fucks.

But hey, keep sucking the ghost of his dick and burying your head in the sand.

Nosfewratsjews ago

All by design to see how people will react in a closed environment once the oxygen is cut off.

chris ago

lmao @ the ghost of his dick

TestForScience ago

Yeah, well, I went to take my place in the guard tower but there was a fucking sign on the door that said "Out of Order" and the door was locked.

THEx1138 ago

TOO FAT FOR THE STAIRS?

clamhurt_legbeard ago

That's what the British did during the Blitz. Whined and bitched when they had to take shelter.

Sour attitudes help everyonenin times of struggle.

0rion ago

Would those be the same Brits and Blitz where they went to war with their fellow whites in the name of the jew?

What a shitty analogy that was.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

in the name of the jew

No, you must be mistaken. Where did you hear they went to defend Jews? Nobody cared about them.

Learn facts.

0rion ago

Eat shit and die boomer, if you really understood your history you'd know that most Western nations had been infiltrated by Jews long before WWII, and the real reason they attacked Germany is because they tried to break away from their ponzi scheme banking system. The war was 100% fought in the name of Judaism, and to pretend otherwise is a sign of extreme ignorance, boomerism, or just plain stupidity.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

british were jew controlled

jew controlled britain tried to break away from jew controlled banks

thats why they attacked the Nazis

cool story

0rion ago

Eh, I guess I expected too much for you to be open minded and question what you've been told. I guess being a boomer, you can't help it.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

insults people

surprised when they don't listen to him

lol

Try reading the book Presuasion.

0rion ago

You started it you inbred fucking ree ree.

clamhurt_legbeard ago

How did I start it when I wasn't even talking to you?

Hmm.

SanFranTrailerPark ago

Should make an engine that amalgamates multiple sites so we can participate in all until one clearly takes over.

ggolemg ago

Notabug.io and host our own portal