Intro
With what's coming, it's more critical than ever to be prepared. u/ObamasPinkSock wrote a great post on Cheap and easy ways to prepare for long periods of martial law or civil war without power or water.
So here's a firearm buying guide to help interested patriots better protect themselves and their loved ones. This is to save you time, money, and the risk of buying the wrong gun.
Handguns
Affordable, concealable, transportable, and quick to deploy. Downsides are poor accuracy and range compared to rifles. Practical range is under 25 yards and it may take 3-6 shots to put down an aggressor. You also need more training to use a handgun effectively. Works well enough for home defense, concealed carry, inside a backpack, and cramped spaces like vehicles.
The best handguns are 9mm semi-automatics with removable magazines. 9mm is the bullet diameter, semi-automatic means one shot per trigger pull where each shot automatically loads the next round, and removable magazines let you swap out a new mag in under three seconds for another 15+ rounds at the ready.
Options:
$200-$300 - Walther Creed (formerly the PPX)
$300-$400 - Canik TP9
$400-$500 - Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Compact w/o thumb safety.
$500-$600 - Glock 19 gen 5 (or gen 3). Popularity means ease of finding aftermarket accessories like holsters and ugprades. Recommended upgrades: Magpul Magwell and Tango Down enhanced slide stop.
Ammo: Bonded jacket hollow point bullets are best. Example is the 124gr Federal HST round.
Pistol Caliber Carbines
These look like rifles but shoot pistol (handgun) ammo. They're softer shooting than rifles, not as loud or concussive, and are easier to aim than handguns. The longer barrel also adds extra velocity for better terminal performance. Pistol caliber carbines are Ideal for smaller framed people who don't have the time to do the kind of training a handgun requires. Rails let you easily mount red dot sights and white lights.
Options:
$200-$300 - Hi-Point 995TS. Cheap but reliable. Magazines are limited to 10 rounds though.
$400-$500 - Ruger PC9. Can be "broken" in half for easy transport. Fits inside a backpack. Takes 33-round Glock mags too.
$600-$700 - Beretta cx4 Storm. High quality and reliable.
Ammo: Likewise, bonded jacket hollow point bullets are best. Due to the longer barrel, higher pressure +P rounds like the 124gr +P Federal HST are more suitable here to get extra punch.
AR15 Rifles/Carbines in 5.56
Best all-around firearm if you don't need concealed carry. You get 30-round detachable magazines standard (except in commie states), accurate fire out to 600-700 yards, great ergonomics, rails for attaching optics / lights / grips / backup sights, adjustable stock length, versatility and modularity, and light weight compared to most rifles.
Suitable for home defense, hunting (check laws though), neighborhood defense, marksmanship training, tactical carbine classes, and fighting wars. The modern equivalent to the muskets used by the minutemen. Keep 'em lubed with Slip 2000 EWL and they'll run reliably.
Options:
$400-$500 - Smith & Wesson M&P15 Sport II. Damn good for the price. Not combat-grade but good enough for most people.
$750-$850 - Colt LE6920. The cheapest combat-grade AR. Very popular. The LE6720 is a lighter alternative but harder to find.
$1000-$1500 - Any AR from BCM, Daniel Defense, or Sionics. To get the best gun for the lowest cost, personally I recommend buying a complete lower from Aero Precision or Palmetto State Armory and mating it to a complete upper from BCM, particularly the 16" MCMR ELW BFH with Mod 4B charging handle and either a BCM or ToolCraft bolt carrier group.
Ammo: For bulk storage and training, Wolf Gold .223 is awesome. Clean and reliable. Magtech 556B is similarly priced but more accurate at distances greater than 500 yards, so it's a better option if you don't mind the slight increase in cost. For home defense, Hornady TAP 55gr or 75gr is expensive but a top choice, followed by Speer Gold Dot 62/64gr which is more reasonably priced and also very effective.
Buying online
You can use Gun Deals to compare prices on guns and accessories and Ammo Seek to do likewise with ammo. Check your state laws as some put restrictions on who/what can be bought.
When buying a firearm online, during checkout you select a local FFL dealer (federally license firearms dealer, aka a gun store) to ship to, and out of courtesy you should call or email them with your contact info and what you ordered. They then notify you when it arrives, and you go in and do the background check. There's usually an FFL transfer fee you'll have to pay, ranging $15-$75. Fair price is $35. So you pay for the gun online, and pay for the FFL fee + background check fee at the FFL dealer.
Note that for ARs, you can buy the upper half online and get it delivered straight to your door. It's only the lower, specifically the serialized lower receiver, that needs to be sent to an FFL and get the background check done.
Accessories
Lights -- Every gun should have a white light on it. Surefire, Streamlight, and InForce in order of quality/reliability. You need to positively identify a threat before even thinking of pulling the trigger. Last thing you want is to kill a child or spouse by accident because you couldn't see them too well in dim lighting.
Holsters -- Guns like Glocks don't have manual safeties. That's good because under stress you may forget or fail to flip the safety off and die because you couldn't get off a shot in time. As such, the holster is the safety as it covers the trigger area. Holsters are needed for concealed and open carry, but for home defense you can get away without having one.
If you keep a loaded handgun bouncing around loose in a bag or purse, it better be in a holster or trigger cover like the RCS Vanguard 2.0. Look to Bravo Concealment, Raven Concealment, and Safariland for your holster needs. This is where it pays to have a popular gun like the M&P or Glock and a popular light like the Streamlight TLR or Surefire X300 series. Holsters for other combos are harder to find.
Slings -- For long guns like pistol caliber carbines and AR15s, slings are generally a good idea. Takes the load off your arms if patrolling, standing around all day during a carbine class, pulling sentry duty, hunting, and so on. The Vickers Sling and Proctor Sling are my favorites. For home defense, slings are a tangle hazard and take a few seconds to put around you, but they do keep a bad guy from yanking the gun away from you.
Handgun sights -- On a handgun, regular iron sights do the job. Think more in terms of quick combat sights than precision target shooting sights. Handguns are used at close ranges and speed is more important than fine precision. Laser sights can be helpful for the lesser trained since it's more point and click. Red dots on handguns increase accuracy but reduce speed and require considerable training to use effectively, so they're not a high priority here.
Red dot sights -- On rifles/carbines these are highly recommended. It's literally a red dot superimposed on what you see through the optic. Where the dot is, the bullet goes (notwithstanding holdovers and bullet drop of course). The problem with regular iron sights is that you can focus sharply on the front sight or on the target, but not both, so one or the other will be blurry and it takes longer to get everything lined up. With a red dot, it's point and click and everything is in focus. Unlike a laser, a red dot has battery life in years and is more reliably visible in all conditions. Options in order of budget: Primary Arms Advanced Red Dot with rotary knob, Aimpoint Pro, Aimpoint T2. Note that if you have uncorrected astigmatism in your eye, a red dot will look distorted and reduce your accuracy, so if that's the case for you then look into a 1x prism scope like the Primary Arms Cyclops.
Magnified optics -- If you need to shoot past 100 yards, then magnification helps considerably. It also helps if someone is shooting at you from behind cover, even at 50 yards, where only half their face and maybe a knee might be poking out. Magnification helps you identify whether it's a hostile or the neighbor kid cowering behind a bush.
AR15s are precise enough that you do need magnification to make full use of its potential. For fixed magnification optics, cheapest good option is the Primary Arms 3x with the ACSS reticle, and best high end choice is probably the Trijicon ACOG TA31 with green ACSS reticle. They also make scopes with variable magnification, also known as LPVOs (low power variable optics) that go from 1x to 4x, 6x, or 8x. Anything under 300 yards: Trijicon TR24G, otherwise the Primary Arms 1-6x ACSS does the job.
Ear protection -- Foam or rubber earplugs worn beneath an electronic earmuff like the 3M Peltor Sport or Peltor Comtac III.
Eye protection -- 3M/Peltor SecureFit 400 or better.
Safety
The four rules of firearms safety: 1) Treat every firearm as if it's loaded, even if you "know" it's not. 2) Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy. 3) Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you've made the decision to shoot. 4) Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
If you have kids, roommates, bad neighborhood, etc. you'll need to lock up your gun to prevent accidental firearm deaths and theft.
Training
Take classes, watch videos, dry fire, practice!
If you're prepping for serious SHTF defense against armed groups, then read Contact! by Max Velocity.
Good luck.
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AlexanderMorose13 ago
This is the love our country needs to stay united and stay together. I'm prepared for when the worst happens. I will do my best to defend my neighbors as much as I can defend myself. I've lived here for 4 years. My neighbors are my family. The old couple down the street gave me a cupcake with a candle on my birthday. I was honored that they even remembered. An armed America is a safe America. Stay safe everyone, God Bless.
cattarhero ago
I know that the AR platform rifles are accurate and easy to operate, but I consider them too delicate and require too much maintenance for a long term survival situation. That and the original ammo was developed as a varmit round. In fact, the military is now considering going to a larger caliber to increase stopping power. I was issued an M16 for a few years in my younger days and I wouldn't want to trust one again if I had a choice. At least back then I had an armory full of gunsmiths to keep it running for me. Now I need something more robust and reliable.
USAyyye ago
Good news is that over the past 15 years, competition and demand has created a renaissance in AR manufacturing. Costs went down, quality went up, features and reliability improved, and more lethal rounds were developed. In other words, the kinks have been worked out to where a good AR can now go thousands of rounds without malfunctions, and without cleaning just lubrication.
Examples of what you can get now: hammer forged tapered barrels, stronger bolts, improved extractors, much better magazines (Magpul and Lancer), smoother triggers, mil-spec buffer tubes, slim and lightweight free float hand guards that extend out 10-15 inches, 600-1000 lumen weapon lights, red dot sights with 5 year constant-on battery life, wobble-free snag-free collapsible buttstocks, vertical or angled foregrips, pistol grips to fit every hand, and a pistol brace (instead of stock) if you want an 10-12" barrel without paying $200 for an tax stamp.
With ammo, you can now get heavier rounds like 77gr that are good out to 700-800 yards and do a nice job at CQB distances, bonded soft point bullets that are known to drop deer on the spot, hollow points, and special all-copper barrier blind rounds. And if that's just too puny, you can go 300 blackout or 6.5 Creedmoor, or step up to a 308 or 6.5 Grendel.
Anyway just saying times have changed and if you handle a good one like BCM, Colt, or Daniel Defense you'll see it's far ahead of the old M16s.
DarktoLight247 ago
Handguns require classes and shit in my state. I suggest going to your gun store and tell them what you want it for and they will help you. Shotgun is good to have, can get it the same day with little fuss. My gun shop got me to buy a 9mm upper and a lower separate, to get around hand gun laws and get a short barrel length and walked out same day. Slapped a red dot on and good to go. 9mm has hollow points that collapse and reduce possibility of going through the enemy and into your daughters bedroom. AR15 isn’t necessarily the best home defense gun, it’s better for longer range.
USAyyye ago
9mm carbines are great for indoors. AR15 will have slightly less penetration through multiple walls (55gr round vs 115gr) but more concussion and noise and single-shot lethality. I can use an AR both indoors and outdoors, though, whereas a 9mm carbine as a sole gun wouldn't be all that useable past 100 yards. All depends on your threats and surroundings. Glad you were able to get the upper and lower separate and bypass that retarded law.
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obvious_throwaway1 ago
I stopped reading there.
USAyyye ago
Your loss. Hit with a 9 beats miss with a 45. All pistol rounds suck compared to rifles, and they suck so much that the "stopping power" of 9 vs 40 vs 45 becomes irrelevant. What matters more is shot placement and follow up shots, and the 9 is not only more controllable but you get twice the round count versus a single stack 1911, plus the option of high capacity 31 round mags with a Glock.
wasupwitdis ago
Good post PATRIOT very informative....however to keep it simple for most who may not have a lot of knowledge of firearms. For home defense short barrel (18-20 in barrel) shotgun why? It has a lot of stopping power it is basically a point and shoot weapon. For someone carrying imo a 38 caliber revolver why? It will get the job done. Has little chance of misfire.as you say training is essential also safety. Dont get me wrong your post is very well put. I am directing this toward those that have little knowledge or experience with firearms but still would like to feel they can protect themselves. If you feel it necessary to have multiple firearms keep in mind to keep calibers matching. You do not want to be fumbling around in a crisis situation looking for the right ammo. I have been a firearms instructor with local LEO for over 26 years. Have taught many classes to citizens and cadets. This is just a simple guideline.......
USAyyye ago
Thanks for your feedback. I agree that shotguns have great stopping power and the pump actions are quite affordable. There are a couple downsides that come to mind though.
The first is ammo capacity, being able to hold only 5-8 shells. Against one assailant that's fine, especially if you bunker up in the bedroom with shotgun trained on the door. Against two, maybe. Three is cutting it close. Home invasions are known to involve up to seven or eight people on rare occasion. In the dark, with movement, one is likely to miss as well. So I think higher capacity is pretty important. Better to have and not need than vice versa.
Second is people being prone to short-stroking the pump action under severe stress. That can be fixed with training but it's not as foolproof as semi-auto action. So I'd prefer a semi-auto shotgun in that case. But then you have to make sure your choice of ammo cycles the action reliably, so it's not as flexible ammo-wise as a pump action, and the cost is higher vs pump action.
Third is the spread pattern of buckshot. The size of a fist at room distance. That's tight enough that you still need to aim as carefully as you would an AR or PCC. Down a hallway you might get two foot spread which isn't bad. The issue is that any buckshot that doesn't hit the body will hit a wall and penetrate and possibly go into the neighbor's house. So up close you still need to aim with care, and at distance you'll get buckshot missing and penetrating walls. Can be fixed with birdshot but birdshot shouldn't be used for self-defense anyhow as it'll pepper a perp but not reach the vitals.
With an AR or PCC it's one round where you want it, with good penetration, and follow-up shots are also way faster and easier to control. So you have more precise application of projectiles, which means increased safety for any innocents behind/around the target.
And fourth is range. You're limited to 100 yards at best, 50 more like it. As long as society is stable and the main threat is mere home invasion, range isn't a problem. But if things go south and some psycho is taking pot shots from 100+ yards away, you'd be pinned down. Hitting a small target at that range with shotgun slugs is tough. AR with scope, no problem.
So all in all, as good as a shotgun may be, I think a rifle or carbine with a zeroed scope or red dot is overall more versatile and reliable. You can carry and store more rifle/pistol rounds than shotgun shells. You can reload in seconds and have another 30 rounds at your disposal. You can reach out to 600 yards easily with an AR, etc. That's why I prioritized the rifle or carbine.
38 special revolver, that's a question of revolver vs semi-auto pistol. Revolvers are simpler to operate and there's no slide to rack which may be tough for arthritic hands or weak hands. I guess I'd rather hand an untrained grandmother a 38 special over a Glock 19 for that reason. Downsides are low capacity, 5-6 rounds, and not being able to reload them quickly. Even the Glock 19 has 15+ rounds and mags can be swapped in seconds. I prefer being over-prepared than under-prepared, hence more rounds = better in my view. The Glock also takes 31-33 round mags which is an incredible advantage in a tough situation over 6 rounds.
Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing yours.
yellowoodneepuks ago
Great piece for the un-initiated and the comments are ensightful as well- Thank You!
LibTearsNoBrakes ago
Sawed off shotgun is all you need. You'll take out every motherfucker in the general vicinity.
Xeqshunr ago
I would still like to see a 12ga, medium choke, chambered for 3in, shotgun on there just because it can do it all reasonably well without a lot of training. Nothing can blow holes in stuff like a load of 00 buck, and the psych value is second to none. For a pump the Mossberg is a good choice and Stoeger for a semi auto that's reasonble and Rock solid dependable without the kick. Aka the wife and kids can manage it in a pinch.
DarktoLight247 ago
Mossberg also now makes a shotgun with a magazine eliminating the reloading time concern.
USAyyye ago
Semi-auto shotgun with a reliable magazine would be awesome. Sucks to carry big shotgun magazines on you though, but better than loose shells.
LurkMaster ago
I'll add many firing ranges allows to try various handguns before purchase. An important thing many forget is to get a hand gun that fits your hand. I have big hands and like a larger grip. Those with smaller hands may prefer smaller narrower grips. The better your grip, the less kick back you will experience.
I strongly suggest new gun owners get some practice shells. use these to become familiar with loading and unloading magazines, dry fire practice and general gun handling.
Then take time to practice, practice, practice....
USAyyye ago
Laserlyte makes a 9mm laser cartridge that fits into your barrel like a round does. When you pull the trigger, it briefly shoots a laser to let you know where the bullet would have gone. You have to rack the slide each time on most semi-autos (unless the gun has second-fire capability) but for practicing at home it's an awesome training tool. That is, draw gun from holster and shoot at a light switch at various distances and from various positions. You start building muscle memory on the draw and aim, and that allows you to point-shoot more accurately when the time comes. Just be sure to hit the firing range too, as controlling recoil for accurate double taps / hammer pairs / controlled pairs is a skill that can only be developed with live ammunition.
AbjectDynamite ago
My only add is it would be wise to know what the law is in your state for armed conflicts. Where I'm at.. 3ft or less (and preferably much less) is about the range for a reasonable belief of risk of death or substantial bodily harm. The farther the threat is away from you, the less argument you have for realistically being threatened.
helpfulhuckleberry2 ago
3 ft. seems extremely dangerous if they are armed also.
AbjectDynamite ago
I know.
USAyyye ago
Folks, I know shotguns, revolvers, 1911s, AKs, 22LR for hunting, etc. each have their advantages (and fans) but given post length constraint I stuck to the most practical choices given budget, availability, quality, and application. Thanks for your understanding.
Mogumbo ago
Just give me a chemistry set and watch me work my magik