That is 50/50, some people agree but some people disagree.
Safety is a good reason, but also as the evidence in the video shows, racking the bullet will make a big difference in the perception of the enemy. Brandishing, as we can see here, is a good way to deter a threat.
I personally would carry with a round in the chamber, but I understand why some would not.
i keep the shotgun in my bedroom with the pump half way down. i think that unmistakable racking sound is the best warning to get the fuck out of my home. but i don't want to leave the chamber empty and lose my +1 capacity.
Negative. If youve broken into my home with my kids and wife inside to do harm, i do not want you to have the opportunity to be able to walk out. You done fucked up boy. Supressed 300blk for the (mostly) silent win. No racking, no chambering, no warning. Im getting the drop on YOU (not you, the guy im replying to obviously, the degenerate fuck trying to harm my family). Why oh why would you want to give someone a heads up? Theyre there to hurt you. Do not forfeit an advantage. Also, have a disposal plan. Do. Not. Call. The. Police. They are not your friends. You have zero moral obligation to call them.
In reality the situation may be complicated, or you may not know exactly what's going on. Yelling at an intruder to get out and proving beyond a doubt that your armed might be a good option in some cases.
If you know it's a bad guy sneaking around in your house, sure just shoot. But what if you aren't sure, maybe one of your kids is sneaking in late or something? I can think of many situations where I might want to warn first.
I personally also like the safety aspect of having a large motion required to get the gun ready, so its an easy choice for me, but I understand how people might prefer otherwise. I might feel differently if I lived in a dangerous place.
Yeah i was thinking of keeping 2 pans in my room that i could start banging together and yelling "youre gonna get shot, youre gonna get shot", going to see and then coming back to my room assembling a firearm and throwing it at them, unloaded of course, just in case they have a good reason for breaking into my home.
Not too sure about your last bit of advice. (have a disposal plan, do not call the police). Let's be honest, the sound of a round going off in the middle of the night is going to garner a lot of attention and probably have your neighbors calling the cops anyway. Also then there's your family who has to be in on the lie.
They were in your house, you feared for your life so you shot them. Castle doctrine says you're in the right.
This is how a drink kid that thought your house was his gets shot. Plenty of people are doing time for shooting a silhouetted "intruder". I agree with the sentiment though.
The only reason I could see wanting to have that sound is in case it wasn't an intruder but just someone who came home late. The racking sound gives then at least a few moments to say "Dad, it's me!"
Since you know you have to be sure of your target before you pull the trigger, and since youve got a light mounted on your defense piece, its very unlikely youd shoot a family member. Telegraphing your position and armament, as well as the risk of failing the drill and having malfunction doesnt help the situation.
There are several cases of people not being sure of their target and not having a light mounted on their weapon, and accidentally killing a family member. It is a legitimate risk.
There are things called tactical flashlights I even heard some come on those old-style pick a teeny rail’s
I’m fucking with you.And I actually agree I’m not there to deter somebody I’m there to kill them they done fucked up and I’m there to make sure justice is done
We both recognized that either side had merits and at its core was merely a disagreement of opinion while supporting the fundamental right of self defense and blowing the ever living hell out of a violent home invader.
One prefers to say "get out bang bang" the other one says "bang bang get out"
When I first came to voat 4 years ago, this was the first thing I noticed. Reddit is like a constant argument, on voat (most users) are willing to admit mistakes, ignorance, and actually apoligize when wrong.
view the rest of the comments →
ketoll ago
She didn't understand "Get out of my way."
She didn't understand "Leave me alone."
She didn't understand "Stop blocking my car from leaving."
But she understood loud and clear the sound of a bullet being chambered into that handgun.
Some people don't understand anything other than physical threats. You can't reason with a violent instigator.
NakedWarrior ago
You should already have a round in the pipe tho.
CHeritageP ago
That is 50/50, some people agree but some people disagree.
Safety is a good reason, but also as the evidence in the video shows, racking the bullet will make a big difference in the perception of the enemy. Brandishing, as we can see here, is a good way to deter a threat.
I personally would carry with a round in the chamber, but I understand why some would not.
DIARRHEA_FIGHT ago
i keep the shotgun in my bedroom with the pump half way down. i think that unmistakable racking sound is the best warning to get the fuck out of my home. but i don't want to leave the chamber empty and lose my +1 capacity.
CHeritageP ago
Absolutely 10000% valid.
The shotgun racking sound is exactly what I was thinking.
Shotinthedark ago
It just alerts me to the fact that you have a gun and in what room that gun is in. No I know to shoot first and rape your family second.
Ol_Hickery ago
Negative. If youve broken into my home with my kids and wife inside to do harm, i do not want you to have the opportunity to be able to walk out. You done fucked up boy. Supressed 300blk for the (mostly) silent win. No racking, no chambering, no warning. Im getting the drop on YOU (not you, the guy im replying to obviously, the degenerate fuck trying to harm my family). Why oh why would you want to give someone a heads up? Theyre there to hurt you. Do not forfeit an advantage. Also, have a disposal plan. Do. Not. Call. The. Police. They are not your friends. You have zero moral obligation to call them.
Maker_Wolf ago
In reality the situation may be complicated, or you may not know exactly what's going on. Yelling at an intruder to get out and proving beyond a doubt that your armed might be a good option in some cases.
If you know it's a bad guy sneaking around in your house, sure just shoot. But what if you aren't sure, maybe one of your kids is sneaking in late or something? I can think of many situations where I might want to warn first.
I personally also like the safety aspect of having a large motion required to get the gun ready, so its an easy choice for me, but I understand how people might prefer otherwise. I might feel differently if I lived in a dangerous place.
Ol_Hickery ago
Yeah i was thinking of keeping 2 pans in my room that i could start banging together and yelling "youre gonna get shot, youre gonna get shot", going to see and then coming back to my room assembling a firearm and throwing it at them, unloaded of course, just in case they have a good reason for breaking into my home.
Airborne_Hillbilly ago
Yep. 100% if you enter my house at night, without being invited, while I sleep-you die before you realize you done fucked up.
TripleZ ago
Not too sure about your last bit of advice. (have a disposal plan, do not call the police). Let's be honest, the sound of a round going off in the middle of the night is going to garner a lot of attention and probably have your neighbors calling the cops anyway. Also then there's your family who has to be in on the lie.
They were in your house, you feared for your life so you shot them. Castle doctrine says you're in the right.
Literally-Oppressed ago
This is how a drink kid that thought your house was his gets shot. Plenty of people are doing time for shooting a silhouetted "intruder". I agree with the sentiment though.
whyamIevenhere ago
The only reason I could see wanting to have that sound is in case it wasn't an intruder but just someone who came home late. The racking sound gives then at least a few moments to say "Dad, it's me!"
ManchesterT ago
There's no "dad it's me". You don't shoot through doors or at darkened silhouettes.
You shoot verified threats only.
itsALWAYStheBANKERS ago
Since you know you have to be sure of your target before you pull the trigger, and since youve got a light mounted on your defense piece, its very unlikely youd shoot a family member. Telegraphing your position and armament, as well as the risk of failing the drill and having malfunction doesnt help the situation.
whyamIevenhere ago
There are several cases of people not being sure of their target and not having a light mounted on their weapon, and accidentally killing a family member. It is a legitimate risk.
itsALWAYStheBANKERS ago
Problem solved with a WML and adequate training. Buying a gun doesnt make you a gun fighter. High quality kit and high quality training can help.
Ol_Hickery ago
Fair enough, my kids are too small for that right now. Either way, you shouldnt be putting rounds in a target without knowing if it is a valid target.
POTUShasnoballs ago
There are things called tactical flashlights I even heard some come on those old-style pick a teeny rail’s
I’m fucking with you.And I actually agree I’m not there to deter somebody I’m there to kill them they done fucked up and I’m there to make sure justice is done
CHeritageP ago
You realize your argument is just a personal opinion and not fact right?
Ol_Hickery ago
Yes, 100%. But so is yours.
AnotherRedditRefugee ago
Wow, that was way more civil then i expect from voat. What the hell is going on here.
Phantom42 ago
I really have no idea. Fuck you though.
AnotherRedditRefugee ago
Ah that's better, I feel like I'm home again.
And fuck you niggerfaggot.
CHeritageP ago
We both recognized that either side had merits and at its core was merely a disagreement of opinion while supporting the fundamental right of self defense and blowing the ever living hell out of a violent home invader.
One prefers to say "get out bang bang" the other one says "bang bang get out"
:D
Tuftedtitmouse ago
When I first came to voat 4 years ago, this was the first thing I noticed. Reddit is like a constant argument, on voat (most users) are willing to admit mistakes, ignorance, and actually apoligize when wrong.
reddigee ago
It's almost like civility it's defined by how PC you are or how much you tow the party line.
You dumb faggot.
Ol_Hickery ago
Clownworld friend. Its fucking clownworld. Haha. Hope all is well in your world.