4_InquiringMinds ago

The saying make lemonade out of lemons applies here. By watching the patterns of what is removed it becomes clear what subjects are taboo by those that control the narrative. We are not going to get any straight answers from the gatekeepers/the system is not designed for such.

Gatekeeper Noam...

The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum – even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.

Engaging in endless debate with the gatekeepers about 'why was my post deleted'...make lemonade instead wink.

13Buddha ago

It is refreshing to see the best of you questioning pizzagate deletions. MF cannot be trusted.

carmencita ago

Yemen. That is what comes to mind. Horrid.

DoJustice ago

There is also an outbreak of Cholera in Somalia, where the UN just happens to be heavily involved.

carmencita ago

Yes, I know. There have been many cases of cholera for years on and off in Somalia and in Africa. Just so very telling now that we know the whole story. I totally believe this.

ESOTERICshade ago

Yemen. That is what comes to mind. Horrid.

Yemen is a beautiful country with a rich history. Check this out.

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/20700000/beautifull-yemen-yemen-20766015-1156-768.jpg

Yemen has been trying to protect itself from the globalist maggots for centuries. They build their habitats on hills for a reason. They are trying to protect themselves from scum like Israel and the U.S.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=yemen&t=palemoon&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2Finteractive.wxxi.org%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2Fhighlights%2FYemen.JPG

4_InquiringMinds ago

I've been looking at the pictorial you posted about Yemen. Beautiful and sad all at once. I will be passing it around. Most of the ppl I know go Yemen/where is that?

Thank you esoteric...thank you.

carmencita ago

How Beautiful and yet So Tragic at the very same time. I remember a few years ago seeing a map of Iraq and all the wonderful things that were there before we so brutally attacked the country and it's people. All for regime change and oil. So very sad and disgusting. This morning I saw on my news that the most revered of presidents are Obama and Clinton. We have learned nothing.

4_InquiringMinds ago

After we bombed Iraq I saw a pictorial of the night before/ppl went out and partied bc they knew what was coming, knew there was nothing they could do to stop it so spent that time being with friends and relatives before their lives were reduced to rubble. Saddam, installed by the cia, pissed the deep state off. He was a monster for sure but just like the monsters we have, most ppl were able to go on about their lives if they stayed out of the way/just like here.

Then...off to Libya

4_InquiringMinds ago

Either it is dinner time or run and hide :)

Mod conference...the peons are getting restless. This fucking cholera thread is showing up in comments in too many places.

What to do, what to do?

Well hell, we can't let them repost it/ppl might actually get the idea they could do digging again. Right now everything is perfect. We have them focusing on twatter of all things...can you believe it. Well true a lot of them are shills and trolls but hey, looks good and sets a nice tone.

MF...I'll drop to that :)

Well, they get upset all the time/best we ignore it. No way we can logically explain our way out of this...I mean really, what idiot thinks Roseanne is a sourced claim?

MF...I'll drop to that and raise you 2

Okay, now that is out of the way who's ordering pizza? Put your hand down MF...last time you forgot to order double cheese.

MF...can I have walnut sauce?

ESOTERICshade ago

MF...can I have walnut sauce?

He is too busy reading the latest issue of NAMBLA

4_InquiringMinds ago

He can read??????????????????????

SoldierofLight ago

He just looks at the photos.

IpointOutTrolls ago

He can read??????????????????????

Nobody is buying their cowardly bullshit anymore. These mods are full of it and everybody knows it.

septimasexta ago

Vitiligo (loss of skin pigment) seems to be associated with certain transplants:

"The exact etiology of vitiligo is unknown; however, there is evidence to suggest that it is most likely due to lymphocyte-mediated destruction of melanocytes occurring by both humoral- and cell-mediated mechanisms. Naughton et al2 showed that antimelanocyte antibodies were present in vitiligo patients. Sera from patients with vitiligo were shown to react with melanocyte surface and cytoplasmic antigens.3, 4 Yao-Hua Song et al5 showed that tyrosinase, an enzyme important in melanin formation, is a principal auto antigen of autoimmune vitiligo. Wankowicz-Kalinsha et al6 found increased amounts of melanocyte-reactive cytotoxic T cells in the peripheral blood of patients with vitiligo and were able to show a correlation between perilesional T-cell infiltration and melanocyte loss in situ, suggesting the possible role of cellular immunity in the pathogenesis of the disease. It is clear that the cause of this skin disorder is multifactorial.

A review of the literature revealed that all of the cases reported of vitiligo after stem cell/bone marrow transplant or after donor lymphocyte infusion, occurred in patients who had developed GVHD. GVHD was mild, grade I in some cases and more severe, up to grade III in others. In allogeneic stem cell transplant the patient and donor are usually matched for the MHC Class I (A, B) and MHC Class II (DR) antigens. GVHD could, therefore, occur due to mismatch of minor histocompatibility antigens.7 The development of GVHD is a multistep process in which the recipient tissues are recognized as foreign by the donor immune system, leading to the activation and expansion of various effector populations ultimately leading to T-cell-mediated direct cytotoxic damage of target tissues.

In this patient, we hypothesize that GVHD was most likely the inciting factor leading to the production of melanocyte-specific cytotoxic T cells and the development of vitiligo several months later. This case is unusual in that vitiligo presented one and a half years after stem cell transplantation." https://www.nature.com/articles/1705137

realityisinsanity ago

Michael Jackson had vitiligo

darkknight111 ago

Interesting read.

For the non science majors viewing this thread, the shorthand is that in auto immune disease the host's immune system goes maverick and regards "self" tissue as an enemy and attacks it, causing disease. Our immune system works on a "us vs them" premise. The cytotoxic T cells (CD8) work by recognizing an "altered self" marker (common in virus infections) and induces a self destruct sequence in the infected cell (working properly, like a "mercy kill"). In this case, targeting cells responsible for skin pigment.

4_InquiringMinds ago

Are you saying the demand for Melanin-rich organs bypasses organ rejection on a more permanent basis?

septimasexta ago

That was my conclusion after reading the whole article. If more melanin is present in the organ, perhaps the risk of vitiligo is reduced. I am not a scientist. Perhaps someone with a medical research background could confirm this?

ESOTERICshade ago

That was my conclusion after reading the whole article. If more melanin is present in the organ, perhaps the risk of vitiligo is reduced. I am not a scientist. Perhaps someone with a medical research background could confirm this?

@jangles is the big brain on this subject.

4_InquiringMinds ago

And @Vindicator while we are at it...you know the speculation thingy...

Resident nut case Rosanne tweets Qanon is Bill Hicks...again twatter the bastion of sourced claims right?

Instead of removing that submission you reply with this...

Vindicator 1 points (+1|-0) 34 minutes ago

LOL. She was complaining about her chronic pain issues earlier. Probably mixed her meds again. Giving this an "Accuracy in Question" flair.

You gave it a flair, how nice.

Pat answers like you just gave re srayzie's excellent post are not enough. If that is all you have then you are not naive...you are um, something more. We just need to get really clear on who's who and who is really for the children.

Then again you could run and hide :)

Vindicator ago

Look, 4, my preference is to leave up anything I can and let the voats decide, using flairs to mitigate posts being used against this investigation. MF just removes. The only claim being made by that Roseanne tweet thread was that Roseanne tweeted it. That was sourced. Srayzie's thread had multiple claims which were not sourced, either by her or the article she quoted.

you are um, something more

Shareblue "mods are compromised" talking point -- confirmed.

4_InquiringMinds ago

@srayzie post was removed by MF rule 1

Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities

PG has posts up discussing julian's twitter, trump and rothchilds fortune, roseanne tweets, person identified trump dossier, Q on weiner

Where is the relevance per rule 1? If rule 1 is to be applied evenly then there are a plethora of posts that should be removed. Rule 1 is used by MF to remove anything he wants. When asked for an explanation...nada. You can say...

Shareblue "mods are compromised" talking point -- confirmed.

shareblue till you are blue in the face/it does not change what is happening. Either the rules apply to ALL or something needs to change. Compromised definitely. Are you part of it/remains to be seen.

There are members here that do impressive research. They deserve to be treated with respect/they are not. This is not a Q forum. srayzie takes her Q interest to the Q sub/where it belongs. Unless a Q post can directly relate per rule 1 it should be removed. If it does relate to rule 1 should be flared speculation.

For those fixated on roseanne's latest tweets they should make a tweetwatch sub.

I'm on the fence about you vindicator...but if you are really you this is what you have happening on pg. Many intelligent dedicated researchers have left. The depth of most posting is juvenile at best. The sub is littered with lots of one line topics. PG looks more like the daily scandal sheet than any indepth research. It went from researching to a daily news feed/taking the daily news from just any ol' place/many that publish for clicks.

You can say shareblue all you want (which gives me pause just what you are really about) or acknowledge what is happening to the sub. If it is not clear...there is little to none real research going on and when someone posts something of quality, something that could really lead to 'more' MF removes it. If you can't see that you are naive/or doing diversion/dunno.

The members here that put time and considerable effort into research are treated like they are some unruly children that need to be brought into line while others that post really stupid stuff are given a free reign. I mean honestly, have you not noticed the degradation of the posts? How could you not? Tell me how a twitter rant has anything AT ALL ABOUT HELPING THE CHILDREN????? Tell me please.

And if the sub is not about helping the children...who by the way languish in cages waiting to be tortured while ppl masturbate over the latest Q or twat or trump/then what is the purpose of the sub?

@ESOTERICshade, @carmencita, @AngB23, @NoBS, @darkknight111

NoBS ago

You have lost sight of the objective. The children are being raped because "most" well mean citizens are in denial. Your heavy handed approach is burning bridges and helping the clueless remain ignorant. By censorship which controls the narrative.

Think long term and get the fuck off that high horse, and help the newbies take BABY steps.

Vindicator ago

I can't help but notice the heavy use of innuendo in your complaints, 4:

Unless a Q post can directly relate per rule 1 it should be removed. If it does relate to rule 1 should be flared speculation.

It is not speculative that someone claiming close access to Trump is dropping information on 8chan who has repeatedly said Trump is going after the pedo elite. That's a fact. "Speculative" in the context of v/pizzagate rules means "unsupported by linkable information". I can give you numerous links to information supporting the idea that Q is someone important and close to Trump.

Q is also directly related per Rule 1. Not only because he repeatedly mentions child trafficking, but because we need to monitor events and further leaks to determine whether the pedo-busting claims made by Q pan out. We also need to take advantage of the Q leak phenomenon to distribute the best of the research we've done here for the past year. Did you complain about posts on FBIAnon, who started people looking into what later became known as "pizzagate" clear back in July of 2016?

Why do you want to prevent people from talking about it?

PG has posts up discussing julian's twitter, trump and rothchilds fortune, roseanne tweets, person identified trump dossier, Q on weiner

Julian's twitter is directly relevant because the censorship of those who have revealed pizzagate-related information is part of the definition of pizzagate. Roseanne's tweets are relevant because she is one of the few celebrities pushing for investigation of pizzagate -- by name! -- and has been censored for it, on Twitter and elsewhere. The attempt to create a paper trail to get Trump impeached so he cannot expose the pedo-rapists among Clinton's cabal is OBVIOUSLY directly related to pizzagate. Weiner and his nasty bullshit, likewise.

You imply these are unrelated and unimportant. You imply MF and I are trying to silence researchers. But what is really happening here is that YOU are trying to silence researchers, tamp down enthusiasm for the latest Q hints, and cast mods in a bad light for doing their jobs. You disingenuously pose as a concerned researcher, but you're not doing anything to build up the investigation or other researchers at all. You're just taking advantage of people's bruised feelings after their posts are removed to stir shit up.

Sounds like Shareblue to me.

4_InquiringMinds ago

and cast mods in a bad light for doing their jobs

Sheesh vin...mods are doing a fine job with that all on their own/I just point out the obvious like many others.

job description...do whatever we want whenever we want/chastise anyone who points out irregularities, oh and intimidation for those that intimidate easily wink.

4_InquiringMinds ago

Julian's twitter is directly relevant because the censorship of those who have revealed pizzagate-related information is part of the definition of pizzagate. Roseanne's tweets are relevant because she is one of the few celebrities pushing for investigation of pizzagate --

re roseanne/comment I just made on another thread

Successfully keeping ppl engaged in what we have already uncovered. Distraction...instead of more researching. She's not saying anything that hasn't been repeated time and time again. Her tweets aren't doing anything to help the children sitting now in cages. Just juicy gossip bc gossip is it's own addiction and the gatekeepers know this.

re julian...if you think wiki is not a CIA created limited hangout and julian is not cia there is really no response that would do any good. Perhaps understanding controlled opposition would help but since you are a gatekeeper the discussion would be pointless.

because the censorship of those who have revealed pizzagate-related information is part of the definition of pizzagate

Oh, like the censorship here?

4_InquiringMinds ago

You disingenuously pose as a concerned researcher

More later but to clarify, I have never for one minute put myself in the same category as the dedicated researchers that are still around or that have left/lot of them have left btw, or hadn't you noticed? The dedicated researchers are in a class all there own and I can only marvel and respect their tenacity.

You're just taking advantage of people's bruised feelings after their posts are removed to stir shit up.

Good heavens vindicator...the shit has been stirred up for a long time/where the hell have you been?

4_InquiringMinds ago

Posting the entire original thread. If this doesn't clarify what pg and specifically MF is about nothing will.

But then we have Vindicator...so @Vindicator what's up with MF deleting this thread? Do we need to keep room for all the Q stuff...or god forbid, Julian's twitter was down. I really want an answer to this Vindicator. You come off as the 'good cop'. Can't figure out if you are for real and just very naive or a very savvy offset to MF. I am so tired of all this pussy footing around. Ppl here are doing their damnedest to help the children (I'm just a cheerlurker as one member so eloquently put it) and general snark patrol...but some members work their butts off digging till bleary eyed only to have well researched rabbit hole digging submissions tossed in favor of...well, let's see pg headlines today..brb

Rosanne Barr identifies Q as Bill Hicks/um, okay but isn't he dead already?

Let's try again...

BREAKING: Person Who Gave Anti-Trump Dossier to Buzzfeed Has Been Identified

OMG...how earthshattering/buzzfeed none the less...how does this relate to pg?

Let's try again...

Be still my heart...another Rosanne tweeting about pizzagate/that's been up for 10 hours. Maybe MF dropped too much lsd...might want to ck on him.

Let's try again...this one must be a ringer/it's been up for over a day

Trump to appropriate Rothschild fortune/love the description in the opening...

Is this the real 'make America Great Again' masterstroke

So please dear moderator of both subs...a logical clear explanation why @srayzie submission was deleted and the other earth shaking ones adorn the front page?

We want answers not some vague mumbo jumbo.

~ srayzie posted

This article was made earlier this year but I haven't seen anything like this. It's a great article and FULL OF LINKS. It's related to pizzagate because it's about the elites role in child trafficking, organ harvesting and much more.

Haiti Cholera: A Biological Weapon For Organ Trafficking?

“Cholera is an infection of choice for those unfortunately slated for organ harvesting. Cholera doesn’t really harm the organs, but allow them to pull the plug when they claim the child is at death’s door.” — Pah abe

Haiti Occupied: The International Horrors Metered out on the Helpless The UN soldier are proxies for the US war in Haiti. Seven months after the earthquake, they imported the cholera bacteria. The US has used bioweapons and tested chemical weapons on its own people. Haiti present an even easier target for its nefarious biowafare activities. In fact, both Russian and Venezuelan officials claimed, immediately after the 2010 Haiti earthquake, that it was geoengineered by the US. The Russian Northern Fleets in the area at the time of the Haiti earthquake, reportedly said the Haiti earthquake was caused by “a flawed US Navy ‘earthquake weapons’ test before the weapons could be utilized against Iran.”

The Laboratory: Haitians call the CIA, US intelligence, their Duopoly, UN/NGOs and the Deep State (BIS) banksters, the “Laboratory.”

Haiti has a long history of being the Guinea Pigs for US Laboratory tests. Haitians have been the victims of their organ trafficking, child sex rings, prostitution, foul vaccines, rape, forced pregnancies, free trade zone import quota frauds, deaths quads, drug smuggling, money laundering, gun trafficking, human trafficking and humanitarian frauds in Haiti. The Laboratory (Deep State) conducts false flag operations to destabilize and test the public reactions, experiment and refine their attack weapons.

“It’s far worse than (Èzili) depicted Sarah….the inhumane slaughtering of her people in the hands of DynCorp Organ, LTD, UN ‘Peacekeepers’, and the trained gangs that rained terror upon the populace to keep them in line.”

Are folks ready to understand this? To understand that rape is a tool of war, and the mind trauma, disfunction and sexual orientation confusion and insecurities this particular abuse brings, especially when practiced on innocent children and babies, are a US-Euro colonial tool of war, dependency, domination and mass destruction. Sexual programing is a traditionally tool used to break the strongest Blacks among us and to feed the elites’ bloodlust, literally and figuratively as agents of genocides.

Besides, biological toxins such as UN-imported cholera in Haiti, rape, psychological abuse and dislocation are a form of warfare that has destroyed Black families and colonized communities since the era of the TransAtlantic Trade and Arab Slave trades.

This stood out to me. We have talked here in the past and wondered why black people seem to be the biggest targets. The following makes sense...

Melanin-rich organs are superior in value and highly valued by the vampire elites. They believe themselves superior but need Black bodies to feed their for-profit prison industrial complex and eternal wars to continue worldwide for the systemic genocide against Black and brown communities, where the Neanderthugs get a steady stream of melanin-infused organs for harvesting.

Pah abe confirms melanin-infused organs are superior products by telling us that the bi-racial babies in Haiti are harvested by the wealthy billionaires to be used as body parts. He postulates the Rothchild/Rockerfeller clans need their blood in these donor children so their bodies don’t reject the organs.

That's something we can look into.

Some of you will remember, I noted that a reliable source informed us, back in 2010, at the outset of the cholera outbreak that USAID’s first “relief” dollars for the cholera victims went to buy 200,000 body bags! You may also recall, the incident, when the doctors at Mirebalais we questioned about why the bodies of those who were said to die of cholera were not returned to the families of the cholera victims for at least a funeral? We were suspiciously stonewalled. Then finally told it was because they were getting properly buried by the doctors and staff, in body bags to avoid further contamination of the earth. And when we said why can’t the grieving families attend those funerals or “disposal” activities. No answer. A great portion of human trafficking happens at oil rigs, at the over 1000 US military basis around the world, and on the high seas for the pleasures of sick oligarchs and their servants who use the women and children and sometimes, discard the bodies at sea. The UN is teeming with pedophiles. Haiti orphanage Hoax: The Haiti orphanage system, like the US foster-care system, are places where defenseless children are sitting ducks for molesters and all sorts of predators. The pedophiles hide at Haiti orphanages, which are little more than private fund raising instruments for the enrichment of the owners. It’s not about the welfare of the children, but making a living off the misfortunes of abandoned children.

The Jesuits and Vatican in Haiti: The Jesuits and Catholic Church own more land in Haiti than any other entity except for the Haitian government. There’s no doubt their schools, properties and Order of Malta affiliated orphanages and guest houses in Haiti are a hotbed for pedophilia and traumatizing Haiti children not just through their fake history as do-gooders but through rape and sexual molestation.

Haiti is also one of the richest countries in oil, iridium, gold, copper and has mountains after mountains of the most rare earth metals in the world. Although strategically denied by the US-Euro diplomats and over thirty thousand NGOs masturbating on Black pain in Haiti, Èzili’s HLLN regularly details Haiti Riches, way before US client president and prime minister, Michel Martelly and Jean Max Bellerive admitted our wealth while letting the Clintons make us international beggars with fake quake relief.

American Universities that set up shop there do live experiments on children after infecting them with a host of diseases, particularly cholera, then purposely treat the children with vaccines and all sort of trial drugs. After they the experimental children die or are killed, they don’t even return the bodies to the naïve and unsuspecting mothers who just want their children healed from diseases that they infected the kids with in the first place. Worse, they don’t return the bodies to the mothers but sent them in ice bags to the US for study and dissection. Cholera is an infection of choice for those.

The following is just beyond my comprehension. These poor kids. It's just unbelievable...

The Elites such the David Rockefeller impregnate women to harvest organs later out of their own offspring they keep in certain orphanages for securing body parts that will surely not reject their donor bodies when they come back to kill or take out selected organs. A virtual new race of biracial children are now being raised in Haiti for that very purpose of organ harvesting for parents who will never see the children except when the child organs are placed in the parents bodies in their latter years of old age or when in need of new liver or other organ.

srayzie ago

I replied to you thru DM

carmencita ago

Thank you for your honest rendition of the horrors of the Elite. Incriminating is what it is. Also, thank you for your honest evaluation and request about @srayzie. We all are wondering what the answer to that question is. I am not expecting an answer, though we certainly deserve one.

srayzie ago

I replied to her thru DM. I think Vindicator is good. I don't know if maybe Millenial Falcon has more authority or what. I just don't get why MF would delete it. I even described how it was relevant to pizzagate. All I can think of is that it must be an important topic that someone doesn't want us focusing on.

4_InquiringMinds ago

All I can think of is that it must be an important topic that someone doesn't want us focusing on.

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

carmencita ago

This. Organ Harvesting is the Scourge evidently that the NWO Elites do not want told. They want us to focus on sex trafficking. That is why they have allowed all of the accusations to come forward. But bring up ORGAN HARVESTING and we get immediately Shut Down. Something very telling about that imo.

srayzie ago

It's horrifying that these people will have "offspring" only be raised in an orphanage or something, only for the purpose of taking their organs at a later date if needed. That is beyond sick. A good person would give their own life for their children. These people have children for organs? Wtf.

I remember one of them, a Rockefeller or Rothschild that had more heart transplants than anyone in the world. I think 7 of them. Well no wonder. He has offspring or they just kill off a match. It blows my mind.

carmencita ago

I think that was David Rockefeller who just died at around 100 yrs. of age. He had many hearts in order for him to live. I am sure they were the best ones in the world, brought on a Silver Platter. Yuck. The same with Dick Cheney. Wonder what number he is on. I have lost count. My guess is 3 or 4. Another useless scumbag.

srayzie ago

I don't know. I don't even want to live on past my hundreds like these people. I'd rather go be with the Lord and past loved ones by then. It would be much more peaceful then surrounded by this corrupt world.

carmencita ago

I hear ya. I so very much agree.

Vindicator ago

MF probably removed that because it's full of unsourced claims. It really belongs in pgwhatever.

IpointOutTrolls ago

MF probably removed that because it's full of unsourced claims. It really belongs in pgwhatever.

You will go "down" in history

jangles ago

correct

ESOTERICshade ago

oh for fucks sake...all this irrelevent Q turd bullshit is allowed to stay up and this post that goes to the heart of the Clinton Foundation money racket concerning children gets deleted. Nobody is buying this bullshit anymore.

jangles ago

I agree but the post is too shattered and not sourced like we agree to for posts on v/pgate

4_InquiringMinds ago

but the post is too shattered and not sourced like we agree to

And so are the other posts that litter pg. This post actually has more substance than all the news blurbs that litter the page. Post is shattered? Really? Let's get back to roseanne's twatter...now that is something we can really sink our teeth into.

ESOTERICshade ago

I agree but the post is too shattered and not sourced like we agree to for posts on v/pgate

Do you think there is a melanin connection? What is it with melanin? I think there is some connection with melanin but I don't fully understand it unless it is more simple than I realize, like maybe it just makes organs more strong and stable? There is something going on with melanin but i'm not sure I understand it.

jangles ago

dmt

ESOTERICshade ago

dmt

wow

darkknight111 ago

I am a microbioloist by training. I can verify that the claims hold water based on what I know about Vibrio cholerae.

It is the perfect murder weapon for child organ trafficking based on its pathology.

AngB23 ago

@darkknight111 Sorry in advance if this is a completely ignorant question...riding on literally 1 hr of sleep right now. Cholerae can be passed by dirty water, correct? Like dirty water from perhaps, MINING?

My latest researches have been, again, the mining angle. I know some say the whole “Q” angle is stupid and so forth, but I have picked up a few nuggets to research like Peter Munk/Barrick Gold. We all know these greedy assholes mine in mostly, the very poorest areas, pollute villages and traffic in Ppl for slave labor.

Another angle that I was reading about all night which maybe far fetched BUT fits in perfectly with the cholerae. Peter Munk also has donated major cash to a cardiac hospital https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2017/09/19/peter-munk-donates-100-million-to-the-peter-munk-cardiac-centre.html

They are know for TRANSPLANTS. So, what better way to supply organs than if you also own a mining company and have access to to dying people from cholerae? Other organs not needed, they can sell off in the black market. I also found an interesting list of mining “donors” to CGI/Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership (CGEP)

http://cgepartnership.com/media/faqs/

I have more info about mining and payoffs to politicians or putting corrupt politicians in power (AKA Haiti Martelly with Clinton). I always thought this entire “ring” was all connected somehow. The payments I feel is somehow connect to HSBC and fine art “auctions”.

darkknight111 ago

I'll look into the mining angle but I know cholera is spread via the oral/fecal mode of infection.

AngB23 ago

Hhmmmm...ok. Kinda crushed my mind set then. Please let me know if there’s any connection when u get the chance

darkknight111 ago

http://www.iucngisd.org/gisd/species.php?sc=561

Found your answer. Cholera's native environment is aquatic ecosystems. Exists harmlessly in shellfish and other aquatic animals. Spread through contaminated food and water.

Your thinking of dirt as in "earth based". This environment is where botulism, anthrax, and tetanus are native too. I can explain their adaptations if desired.

AngB23 ago

I just did a quick search, but I don’t understand too in depth scientific jargon like you do. Cholerae can be caused by mining. Something about the minerals unearthed, seeping into the water systems? One article was an old one..the other was a very in-depth scientific one.

If you search mining and cholerae, there are a ton of different articles that mention the two together.

darkknight111 ago

Pretty much. Disrupt the ecosystem, the bacteria spreads to water systems (probably alongside planktons it lives with), cholera spreads.

4_InquiringMinds ago

Another thing to consider/mining operations have sewage to dispose of. How is it handled? Would it not be 'cost effective' to do something onsite that disposes of it quickly, easily and w/o any safeguards. Wherever there are ppl there is sewage. I find it hard to imagine that owners of these mines who don't give a wit for the workers or local populations take the time to treat sewage in a responsible manner.

fogdryer ago

You are saying that their organs are still usable???

darkknight111 ago

Yes.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.medgadget.com/2016/11/new-cooler-keeps-organs-right-temperature-prior-transplantation.html/amp

Basically you keep the organs preserved until they're ready for transplant. Older methods include keeping the organs cold to slow degradation.

AngB23 ago

Holy shit......did not know this. Info here is the holy grail. Thank you for this valuable info bcuz that’s the one area I couldn’t figure out- organs from like a car wreck, can only last so long before transplant. THIS explains a lot

fogdryer ago

How long is that for

4_InquiringMinds ago

wave foggy :)

Read the posts if you want to understand/it's pretty darn clear. The whole post is excellent and very educational.

Short answer...yes

Expanded answer...also good cover for kidnapping, harvesting those that don't have cholera

ESOTERICshade ago

It is the perfect murder weapon for child organ trafficking based on its pathology. Even more so due to being perfect for a cover up to the crime too.

Right now the not perfect coverup is the people deleting these posts right? Why would this get deleted but posts that say some anon arrested George Soros stay up? This forum has gone beyond retard.

4_InquiringMinds ago

MF probably removed that because it's full of unsourced claims. It really belongs in pgwhatever.

So you are saying that a thread that has been up for 10 hours about trump and buzzfeed, fake dossier is relevant to pg? And buzzfeed is considered a reliable source? By whom?

In the description which in the title says...wait for it, SPECULATION/this makes it revlevant to pg? How?

And if that can pass as 'approved for pg' why is srayzie's submission that has some speculation and some references not okay but the other one that is speculation is okay. Can you please explain that? Are there different rule for different types of submissions? If so what are the different 'rules' so we can all be clear.

It was all designed to smear Trump, and the dossier was meant to keep him from winning the presidency. Killary IS #pizzagate and her paying for this during the presidential campaign assuredly connects this to #pizzagate.

Come on Vindicator...you can do better than this.

Under the removed submission this comment really sums it up quite well...

probably got deleted because, if you're correct, we now have a trail to follow.Find where cholera outbreaks are, find who is gathering the bodies ,viola you have the traffickers.

Or let's try this for relevancy...Rosanne tweets about pg

Pray for the children of this world who are held in slavery. Those of us who have fought long & hard for them have quickened heart beats 2night. #MAGA

So all any nutcase has to do is tweet pg and the post is relevant? Is that what you are saying? Twitter chatter the bastion of what, sourced claims??????????

fogdryer ago

Mods are not consistent

NoBS ago

"Mods are not consistent" end quote.

You are wrong. If dividing the community can destroy the credibility of this site, then the Pedophile apologist win.

M F is kicking our ass in public and the cunt is a protected control freak fucking over free speech like a virginal prepubescent sex slave.

IpointOutTrolls ago

Mods are not consistent

They are consistently full of shit.

4_InquiringMinds ago

Mods are not consistent

foggy, they are VERY CONSISTENT, you just need to open your eyes and see the pattern.

srayzie ago

Thank you. Millenial Falcon won't even reply to me telling me why it was deleted.

NoBS ago

Censorship is why Obama won a second term. Mother Falcon is the maturity of well regulated oppression and control.

The most powerful evil has to be a control freak, this generations Pol Pot. Lenin, Mao and Hitler can be called Millenial Fucker.

4_InquiringMinds ago

opps, thought that was a pm

fogdryer ago

I think this post is already in here cuz I was looking to post this myself

Anyway, what the hell guess Gates and Kissinger had a merry xmas hearing this news !!!! I feel such rage against their leader Depopulation !😡

septimasexta ago

The Clinton Foundation "cholera hospital" should be investigated.

"Deutsche Bank Americas recently hosted an event at 60 Wall Street to bring awareness to the cholera epidemic in Haiti and to highlight its support of Haiti’s first permanent cholera treatment center, which is being built by MASS Design Group and Centre GHESKIO. The event featured remarks from Chelsea Clinton, Vice President of the Clinton Foundation, as well as representatives from MASS Design and Centre GHESKIO and Gary Hattem, President of the Deutsche Bank Americas Foundation and Managing Director of the Community Development Finance Group. Deutsche Bank has committed a $265,000 grant in support of the center.

Located in Port-au-Prince, the Cholera Treatment Center will help to address the worst cholera outbreak in recent history. Introduced by foreign recovery workers following the 2010 earthquake, the ongoing disease epidemic in Haiti to date has resulted in around 670,000 cases and caused 8,217 deaths according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. The outbreak has been exacerbated by a common lack of access to basic sanitation and clean drinking water, as well as the breakdown of infrastructure due to the earthquake." https://www.db.com/usa/content/en/Chelsea-Clinton-on-Haitis-new-cholera-treatment-center.html

AngB23 ago

HUGE! Thank you!

septimasexta ago

Doctors Without Borders linked to Haiti Cholera Treatment Center. Read article details. They trained staff and set up protocols in 2010. http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/news-stories/voice-field/haiti-cholera-treatment-and-prevention-training

Doctors Without Borders/ Rockefeller connection: Heir to Rockefeller Fortune Dies in New York Plane Crash June 14, 2014 11:25

"An heir to the Rockefeller fortune has been killed in a plane crash in New York, the billionaire family has announced.

Richard Rockefeller died when his plane, a single-engine Piper Meridian turboprop, crashed in foggy weather just minutes after taking off from an airport near White Plains in Westchester county, New York."

Richard Rockefeller was the son of philanthropist David Rockefeller Sr and the great-grandson of oil tycoon and philanthropst John D Rockefeller.

He had been returning from New York where he had been celebrating his father's 99th birthday on Thursday. The aircraft came down less than a mile away from the airport, striking trees and missing a house in Harrison by only a few feet, according to police and airport officials. US safety agencies have launched an investigation.

Airport manager Peter Scherrer said Rockefeller, 65, was the only passenger on the aircraft when it crashed at 8:08 a.m. The plane disappeared from radar and authorities lost contact with the pilot. At 8:23 a.m. police were notified that a plane had crashed in the hamlet of Purchase, Scherrer said. Visibility during this time was "very low" at around a quarter of a mile, he added.

Anthony Marraccini, Harrison police chief, told Bloomberg News: "The plane was broken into pieces, and some pieces were lodged in pine trees. Some of the main fuselage remained intact."

A Rockefeller family statement, released by a family spokesperson, said: "This is a terrible tragedy. The family is in shock. Richard was a wonderful and cherished son, brother, husband, father and grandfather. He was an experienced pilot and respected medical doctor. It is just horribly sad."

According to his biography on the Rockefeller Brothers Fund website Rockefeller was a practising doctor until 2000 and taught medicine in Maine from 1982 until 2000. He was president of the Health Commons Institute, a non-profit organisation dedicated to improving medicine in America, and chairman of the US Advisory Board of the medical aid charity Doctors Without Borders from 1989 until 2010.

Victoria Bjorklund, a Doctors Without Borders founding volunteer, said: "Richard was so committed to the principles of Doctors Without Borders -- the belief that everyone had the right to access medical care. He was absolutely critical in sharing those principles with a wide array of supporters at a time when the organisation was not well known in the US. He will be sorely missed."" http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/heir-rockefeller-fortune-dies-new-york-plane-crash-1452640

Dr. Richard Rockefeller, Founding Member of Doctors Without Borders USA, Dies in Plane Crash June 13, 2014

"NEW YORK—June 13, 2014—Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) was deeply saddened to learn of the tragic death of Richard Rockefeller, Ed.M., M.D., who was killed today when the single-engine plane that he was piloting crashed outside of Westchester County Airport, and extends its deepest sympathies and condolences to his family.

Through his vast philanthropic network, passionate public speaking on the right for access to medicines, and field assignments in South America, Africa, and Southeast Asia, Dr. Rockefeller was instrumental to the founding of MSF in the United States. In 1989, working with his father David Rockefeller, Dr. Rockefeller helped MSF establish its roots in the United States by hosting a small start-up team at 30 Rockefeller Center, inside the offices of Rockefeller & Co.

“Richard gave so much of his life to support Doctors Without Borders,” said Dr. Deane Marchbein, MD, president of MSF-USA. “He made so many vital contributions that have helped Doctors Without Borders provide independent medical humanitarian assistance to millions of patients in over 70 countries. The entire Doctors Without Borders family extends its profound condolences to Richard’s family. We are devastated by his loss.”" http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/news-stories/press-release/dr-richard-rockefeller-founding-member-doctors-without-borders-usa-dies

carmencita ago

Doctors Without Borders has been Infiltrated for quite some time. Infiltrated like many other Organizations. This was one of their plans right from the start, imo. Pulling out the good people and inserting the criminal element.

septimasexta ago

Cholera outbreak on Bill Clinton's watch!

UN Admits: Bill Clinton-Run Haiti Mission ‘Played Role’ in Cholera Outbreak by SAMUEL MAXIME31 Aug 2016 “Over the past year, the U.N. has become convinced that it needs to do much more regarding its own involvement in the initial outbreak and the suffering of those affected by cholera,” UN secretary general deputy spokesman Farhan Haq said, the New York Times reports.

Still, the global organization appears to be fighting any possibility of paying damages and, just as alarming to observers, the Obama administration has remained silent on the matter.

Bill Clinton was head of the United Nations mission to Haiti at the time and managing billions in earthquake reconstruction money when, in October of 2010, a base of soldiers from Nepal began dumping septic waste into the country’s main river. The Artibonite River, located in the town of Mirebalais, is the island of Hispaniola’s longest and most important river. Located in the heart of island, the contaminated water ran through other rivers, creating a stream of death through Haiti’s waterways." http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/31/un-blame-clinton-era-cholera-outbreak/

AngB23 ago

From article:

“In the fall of 2010, months after a devastating earthquake struck Haiti, a new disaster began: a cholera outbreak that killed thousands of people and continues to sicken people across the country.

Experts determined that the source of the disease was a U.N. peacekeeping camp. And now, nearly six years later, the United Nations has admitted it played some role in the deadly outbreak.”

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/08/18/490468640/u-n-admits-role-in-haiti-cholera-outbreak-that-has-killed-thousands

fogdryer ago

How does this fit in with the satanist If they depopulate them where they gonna get their next organ from Oh, wait, that’s me and you ! 😡

darkknight111 ago

3rd world countries often have a higher birth rate than 1st world countries, likely offsetting higher mortallity rates and shorter life spans due to shitty conditions.

Think of it as being like a grisly "farm" and you'll see why it makes sense.

AngB23 ago

Exactly....

AngB23 ago

Damn, I’ve stayed away for awhile due to all the deleted posts and shills. Looks like MF still hasn't been tossed out and great threads are still deleted. SMDH

4_InquiringMinds ago

@AngB23

Damn, I’ve stayed away for awhile due to all the deleted posts and shills.

That actually is their goal. Well, even if they succeed things have a way of coming back and biting you in the butt. Doing intentional harm to the children by running a controlled narrative...let's just say dishonesty is it's own reward/sooner or later.

4_InquiringMinds ago

Ah, now it all makes sense, cholera for organ harvesting. Really very logical. No way to even track bodies, mass graves must dispose of quick bc cholera ya know. And of course any others you can pick off and write off as cholera.

Deleted from pg, but of course...under the sticky Double Flairs asking for suggestions mine was...

Relevant so Removed

ESOTERICshade ago

Ah, now it all makes sense, cholera for organ harvesting. Really very logical.

Yep. Make people sick, sanitize the organs with a bath solution of some sort, throw their body in a pile, next....Then they steal their mineral resources. These people are wicked beyond the devil. And the mods around here are "something" else too....

ESOTERICshade ago

@Blacksmith21

[–] Blacksmith21 0 points (+0|-0) 40 minutes ago

This may turn out to be more significant than we think down the road. Nice find.

I think you might be right. I think there is something about the melanin connection, maybe, that I fundamentally get, sort of, but i'm not sure yet

Blacksmith21 ago

It is same reaason for the interest in DNA test kits and InQTel's investment in a "cosmetics" company which prepares custom preparations based on your "genetics".

ESOTERICshade ago

read @jangles in this thread

ESOTERICshade ago

[–] Blacksmith21 0 points (+0|-0) 2.8 hours ago (edited 2.5 hours ago)

It is same reaason for the interest in DNA test kits and InQTel's investment in a "cosmetics" company which prepares custom makeup concoctions based on ones "genetics".

What is your take on that situation? There is something I am missing on this situation. @jangles understands it I bet. There is something I am not connecting on that but I know its there.

Blacksmith21 ago

It's kind of hard to come up with any reason other than DNA indentification purposes:

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/08/cia-skincare-startup/

jangles ago

planning to get this in a developing post, thank for the ping

ESOTERICshade ago

planning to get this in a developing post, thank for the ping

You are welcome. I always value your opinion. You are a sharp cookie.

jangles ago

thnx, and eye Yemenite organ trafficking

carmencita ago

I can't wait for your post. The cholera happening in Yemen has constantly been on my mind. It was even on the news but now it seems to be gone. Out of sight out of mind. That is their mo. The more we post on this the better. We used to do it and now it gets deleted. I think before we discussed it more in the comments and not as the Titled Post. Either way more visibility is our goal. Look forward to reading your post.

Blacksmith21 ago

This may turn out to be more significant than we think down the road. Nice find.