You can't find black budgets because they operate in cash, get laundered through cash businesses like Pizza Shops (the Pizza Connection Trial was the largest trial in federal history), then those business owners "DONATE" to non-profit organizations, like "Edible Schoolyard" where the tax return shows they throw $167,000 "Solstice" events, but only make $12,000 for their NGO.
https://i.imgtc.com/9R59NNj.jpg
From there, salaries are paid, vendors are paid, and the cycle starts anew, where the money, finally, ends up in the hands of politicians to keep the current party in power, or to systematically buy off anyone new who comes into power.
Russia, absolutely has a black budget, but Putin doesn't have to run it with the same amount of complexity. In fact, he pays himself the same way he pays US politicians (and politicians of other countries).
In this picture, you can see where Mossack Fonseca is part of Putin's money laundering chain to himself. He takes State money, pushes it through a layered series of financial entities, then gives it back to himself. Ruben Vardanyan one of several middle men in this process. This is how "oligarchs" are part of the money laundering process. An integral part.
https://i.imgur.com/gUq568m.png
Troika Dialogue, is a node of one of these nodes; the one that happened to be managed by Vardanyan. In the Panama Papers search, you can see how many other nodes are layered off of Troika Dialog, because third parties are an orgy of money launderers registering businesses.
https://i.imgur.com/E22QQzz.png
So, now, your entity is just a few pieces of paper in some random office in the Carribean, and, if they get busted, their secretary found to have 1200 businesses registered to her (though she is virtually penniless), and you are a drop in the bucket. That's how big black budgets are.
They consist of so much money THAT IT ISN'T ABOUT GETTING MORE RICH, IT IS ABOUT KEEPING EVERYONE ELSE POOR.
Troika Dialog paid into US politics, and that is what the the news is trying to hide from you. This document proves that (see the bottom.)
https://i.imgur.com/LIvDos0.jpg
This one proves John Podesta, separately from the Podesta Group, takes money from Ruben Vardanyan, who funded Joule and who funded other funders of Joule, like Flagship Partners, to help enrich and launder through his Armenian friends.
https://i.imgur.com/z1nFAcS.png
But Mueller, the Podestas and Manafort were all working with Yanukovych on another political operation group project, The European Center for a Modern Ukraine. Joule and Troika are far from the only money trail. Prince Charles was being paid in this same manner out of Troika, but that is practically just a symbolic payment. It references a much deeper financial relationship between all of these parties. That is really what these political operation groups are desperate to keep you from figuring out.
https://i.imgur.com/t1yCepx.png
So, now that the Podestas have Russian money, it is now US black budget money, and he gives it to Center for American Progress who gives it to Media Matters, which funds David Brock Internet shilling campaigns, like Shareblue, Correct the Record, etc.
They also launder it to enrich, themselves, of course, and that is the role James Alefantis plays:
https://i.imgur.com/BBTAFoD.jpg
https://i.imgtc.com/gxjaQlB.png
https://i.imgur.com/wfiuBe0.png
He has a pizza shop, a book store, and a number of small businesses and Transformer Art Gallery. He is part of the money laundering cycle. He has Russian black budget money. David Brock has black budget money. John Podesta, Tony Podesta, the Clintons, the Clintons multiple NGO's, etc.
Here is an Internet shilling machines' menu:
https://i.imgur.com/3at0cQV.jpg
So, drug money, gun running, human trafficking, etc, happens with the consent of government officials, then gets cycled around into manipulating how you vote and spend your dollar so that they are able to stay in power.
This is the real Russian collusion and it is far from the only game in town. Russians, themselves, don't bother trying to influence America. It isn't effective. THEY HIRE OTHER AMERICANS TO INFLUENCE AMERICA. Just like every other country does.
https://i.imgur.com/FK3teVo.png
That is why transparency of government is so important, because it is the only thing that will combat this. People in government need to be under the same level of scrutiny that intelligence bodies have been employing against the populace.
https://i.imgur.com/QJ4LMDT.png
https://i.imgur.com/MYpxVj7.png
https://i.imgur.com/A12G8wq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/L5ggzCO.png
The news is entirely organized around making sure you don't have a clear understanding of this process.
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Vindicator ago
@thewebofslime, thanks for creating a well-written, easy to follow explanation. Unfortunately, I have to flair this for Rule 2 because you have no actual primary souces linked here at all. The pics are great and make it easy to read, but we also need the original source links so that people can vet your thesis for themselves. Please take the time to add that material so that we can leave this up. I will give you the 24 Hours Grace flair. Of course, if you may always post it as is to v/pizzagatewhatever, which does not have evidentiary requirements. Thanks.
thewebofslime ago
All of the business documents are "self-authenticating" in that they are good enough for court and meet the evidentiary requirements for courts within the US.
Voat seemingly has some of the sources banned, so it has become increasingly difficult to write a long post and include a bunch of links, then have the post rejected. Because, frankly, I don't have time to go hunt through every single link, again. I generally do go to the trouble, when writing, to include enough of the names so that anything can be Googled.
The Edible Schoolyard tax returns from 2013, as well as others, are easily Googled.
The Joule Docs email by Erynn Sepp is easily Googled, but the Uranium One money trail is best explored, in detail, in my other posts.
The Troika Laundromat is widely reported on. No news article will mention Joule, Troika Dialog, Ruben Vardanyan, Ian Telfer and the Clinton Foundation all in the same article. It doesn't exist. This is why you have to rely on the primary source documents.
Other than that, judicial notice should be recognized for the Russia reset and it is beyond the scope of a single thread to chase down and link every single donor to the Clinton Foundation who also donated to Skolkovo. The Joule Docs email proves the last picture and Ian Telfer's payment from his NGO to the Clinton Foundation are widely recognized by all MSM, but there is not going to be a single article you can find that also shows he gave to the Clinton Giustra Sustainable Partnership. That is why it is important people do their own research.
I'm not sure what else needs proving or sources. Most of it is pretty obvious and well known and reported upon.
Here are some of the sources, but... again... I can't actually include them in the post because "banned domains." I played around with it, to try to find which was correct, but there is clearly more than one.
https://i.imgur.com/FRrOvyq.png
Vindicator ago
In court, all evidence is presented to the opposing side for vetting -- the documents themselves -- and there are real consequences for fabricating evidence. We have no such help, here, so we require links to the original material.
As for everything that "can be easily Googled", if you desire to post here, you'll need to do that yourself and include the link in your thread. Otherwise, you can post in v/pizzagatewhatever, our subverse for unsourced submissions. I am not at liberty to give you an exception to the rules that the community decided upon and that everyone else must follow if they want to retain the freedom to participate in this subverse.
As for banned domains...the problem is easily solved by either archiving the link first and using the archive url (a better practice, anyway), or by adding a few spaces in the hyperlink to break it so that Voat doesn't recognize it. You can find the banned domains list in the sidebar at v/reportspammers so you know in advance which links to break.
thewebofslime ago
Unfortunately, the list for banned domains is very incomplete.
I did include the links, they are just in a picture.
My point was, there are only a few documents, of which are well known and people should not have trouble confirming them.
The pictures are illustrative, but well supported by documents which would be too voluminous to include.
However, the links to understand those pictures are included in the links at the bottom.
If you see any particular piece of evidence that needs additional citations, I can provide that. However, the standard is unclear. A screencap of an Instagram post is sufficient in some cases, but do I need to provide the link to the original post? What if it was deleted, or made private? What if that same Instagram post has been posted 1,000 times in this sub and related subs across multiple platforms? How much sourcing are we talking and for what piece?
I can get very specific and provide a great deal of sources, but we are limited to the 10,000 characters on multiple platforms.
So, I'm happy to address any deficiencies, I just don't know what, exactly is deficient.
Perhaps you can indicate which item needs sources? Not trying to be difficult, I just have no idea how to source a picture like this https://i.imgur.com/A12G8wq.jpg, if what I have up is not sufficient. Ian Telfer and other board members of Uranium One (while it was Canadian, still) paid directly into the Clinton Foundation and other Clinton NGO's using their own slush fund NGO's. It is incredibly common knowledge, easy to search for, and included in the list of links.
As to a document like Edible Schoolyard, it is on their website, in pdf format, is found by Googling "Edible Schoolyard Tax Returns 2013" and is included in the list of links.
The Upvotes.Club menu, in my opinion, speaks for itself, and it is definitely one of the banned domains, which is why I took the time to screenshot the whole page. Besides the screenshot, the link is included in the list of links.
Additionally, everything in my posts can generally be searched for in https://old.reddit.com/r/TheWebOfSlime, using the search function, because every news article I read is automatically posted with no effort on my part. Additionally, every article is archived, screenshotted and, eventually, grabbed by my websites' database at https://webofslime.com. The text of the articles is also grabbed to automatically populate on the site.
Point being, I am happy to source anything, as I have literally everything I encounter saved, but I face restraints in post sizes, banned domains and I am unclear on the level of sourcing I should be providing for what sources.
For that reason, it would be great if I understood which part of this post was post was not sufficiently sourced.
Thanks.
Crensch ago
Nobody gives a shit.
Then they're not links. Links are clickable. ADDRESSES can be text-only.
Then you should have no problem providing links to them.
Stop wasting my mods' time with your laziness.
@Vindicator @argosciv
thewebofslime ago
Why be such a condescending asshole about it? Why call me lazy? I am the least lazy person you interact with. In the middle of all of this, I do GIS mapping and reconnaissance for emergency incidents and I have training and certifications as a soldier, firefighter as well as in search and rescue, beyond my work in IT. You are being childish by calling me lazy.
https://pic8.co/sh/Tn9F8Y.jpeg
I have been unfairly targeted, repeatedly, in this sub, with claims that my posts are not "pizzagate related" when they damn well are. If I make a good post... it gets buried with crap using vote manipulation. Maybe 1 in 10 posts actually survive, which is why I almost completely stopped posting here. I include my work here AFTER it has been posted in 20 other places. If I include citations in the comments, the post gets deleted. This has been a double standard for a long time.
Your own stickies are usually not as well sourced as my work.
This is why you have never gotten rid of the idea that you guys are compromised.
All I was asking is which item potentially needs more sourcing because your rules about what is cited and what is not varies greatly.
Asking me to spend four extra hours citing something, when I have a job and a family, is asking too much and now you are just wasting my time AND being a derogatory jerk and there is no cause for that.
https://webofslime.com/
I keep everything.
What item actually needs sourcing? Do I need to source something like this?
https://i.imgur.com/XXBTS0s.png
or this
https://i.imgur.com/AqqO2DK.png
or this
https://i.imgur.com/rNuva6s.png
or this
https://i.imgur.com/n0PD0ua.png
?
You see the difference, right?
There is no link for some stuff; like many news articles that I have, but, to me, just the screenshot is good enough.
That is why I am asking WHAT NEEDS CITATIONS?
It seems a lot more prudent to just identify what in my post is questionable, because now you are the one wasting everyone's time. I shouldn't even have to provide all of those links I provided, if I was held to the same standard as a lot of other posts that end up at the top; like blatant misinformation every single day that rises to the top.
So, delete it, or tell me what actually needs a source. Your rules aren't clear and they never have been and your application of the rules have never been consistent.
My work speaks for itself. My data collection speaks for itself. The link to my website confirms all of this information, so does free advertising count as a citation? (I don't actually monetize, in any way.) Maybe you would prefer a more attention whore approach, like David Seaman?
By your standards, if applied equally, everything should be fine by just linking to https://webofslime.com, which contains the text for all of the relevant articles, that attempts to include 2 archive links to each article and a screenshot.
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I have enough accounts on Voat that I can test when I am being targeted and when I'm not. When MillenialFalcon disappeared, a lot of the downvoting campaigns against me stopped, coincidentally. I had hoped that this was the end of it.
If someone, anyone, just gave me something to work with... like a name or a document, where you find the sourcing is lacking, then I can search it up in a matter of seconds.
Otherwise, you are basically asking me to rewrite the whole thing and holding me to a standard that no one else in this sub is held to.
This post does not have the original link and almost acts as way to PREVENT people from seeing what has been posted , most recently: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3092901
This post is not Pizzagate related: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3093860
This post has not mentioned how it is related to Pizzagate: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3093750
This post has nothing to do with Pizzagate: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3091881
This post is barely strung together with "Read More", "Read more": https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3087272
At least a couple of other posts have blatant disinformation about symbols; which have never resulted in proving anything and that is just on your front page RIGHT NOW.
So, Crensch, do what you have to do. I'll continue to do what I have always done.
Crensch ago
Because I choose to.
Because you are.
"I'm not like those other girls."
Cool story, bro.
I don't believe you, nor would I care. Your behaviour here is intellectually lazy, and I don't give a fuck if you're Superman IRL, you're a retard that can't follow the rules, here.
I don't believe you. If this was a submission, you'd need to source that claim with a link.
Prove it.
It would have been the smart move.
Maybe you should knock some of those places off of your spam route.
The rules are pretty simple, so not following them means you're either stupid, or lazy.
You know, I think you could quite your day job with that one. Keep it up, comedy really works for you!
It has nothing to do with the groups wanting to compromise this place trying to consensus crack that narrative into the zeitgeist. No sir. Not possible, or even probable. It's because we enforce the rules!
If you were capable of comprehending the text in the sidebar, you wouldn't need to ask anything at all.
Boo-fuckin'-hoo, puddin'.
There was a guy I hired once, as a favor to an acquaintance of mine. The kid had just turned 18 and needed a job. He was slow, and more than a little stupid. Thought he could ride out the clock on me, and get me to pay him more for his work.
One day he showed up very late, and I asked him why he was late. He told me, "I was at my GIRLFRIEND'S house," as if that was some kind of valid excuse.
How embarrassing.
I don't care that your job sucks and your family resents you. I don't care that you come here to shit up the place since everyone else shits all over you IRL
I'm not asking anything. Follow the rules, or get your shit removed.
Your existence is a waste of everyone's time. I can glean that just from your pathetic, beta, bitch-whining about how we don't bend the rules for such a special snowflake.
I bet your mother coddled you well into your adult years.
I bet your father was never once proud of you, if he even stuck around to watch the trainwreck of your life.
Nobody gives a fuck about your honeypot website.
Maybe you should keep reading the fucking sidebar until you understand it.
Don't care, and I'm not doing your homework for you, loser.
How does it feel to waste your time going down this path of attrition that will only result in you losing?
Nobody cares what you think.
Have you ever heard of the RTFM method?
It stands for:
Read
The
Fucking
Manual (or sidebar)
You must realize that you're the one wasting everyone's time, because you keep trying to project that fault onto me.
And again, nobody cares about your opinion, or what you think is prudent.
Well, maybe you have some useless links of horseshit that didn't need to be there. Like the entirety of this one. You should probably remove that one, for sure.
The rules aren't about the veracity of claims, retard. The rules are about formatting to make it reasonably feasible to check the veracity of a submission's claims.
You don't get to make demands, momma's boy.
Your reading comprehension issues are not anyone else's problem.
It sounds like that squeaky fart just before projectile liquid shit comes out.
I can't hear it over the sound of your inability to read the sidebar.
Your website counts as precisely dick. It's nothing more than you making a webpage in order to pretend to have some kind of legitimacy here. I could make a webpage that says you're a pedophile and a liar, then link it here. If we let you link to yourself, then we'd have to allow me to do that very same thing.
But you wouldn't know anything about that, because you have a family that hates you and takes all your sidebar-reading time.
Nobody cares about you, either way.
Did writing this line make you feel like more of a man?
Sure, because I can then link to https://crenschPGFTW.com and claim you're a pedophile and anti-PG, and the mods would have to allow it. Then I'd make a new article on my TOTALLY AWESOME WEBSITE each day that I'd post... maybe multiple times per day. How would you like that, soyboy?
More of that posing you think makes you sound more masculine, or intimidating, or something? I smell weak all over your words.
Nobody gives a shit about you.
Leave it to a spoiled little momma's boy to expect everyone else to do their work for them. How do you even live with yourself?
If I knew tomorrow I'd have to wake up and live life as you, I'd slit my own throat tonight.
Nobody gives a fuck how much effort you put into anything. Nobody.
Lying comes naturally to those raised in single-mother households.
Waste everyone's time? Yeah, if your dad was worth anything at all, he left you and your useless mother in the dust long ago. How were those child support checks?
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Vindicator ago
In case you genuinely want to better understand our expectations, WoS, I am going to take the time to respond to the rest of this comment.
Wrong. The post has the archive link, which contains the original link. Archive links are as good if not better than the original, as I said in my first reply to you.
Wrong. We have had numerous submissions over the past six months investigating the tranny push as an element of globalist attempts to increase the supply of kids for sex. If children have the right to choose whatever sex they want to be, don't they logically have the right to choose to have sex with whoever they want?
If you spent any time reading our subverse, you'd know this has been a hot topic of conversation here for a while now.
Do you actually need this explained? This IS pg:
Wrong. Any news about pedophile priests is 100% pizzagate, "the sexual abuse of kids by the global elite" per the definition in the sidebar.
Did you actually read any of it? The guy started grilling Sheer about pizzagate and the Clinton Foundation at a town hall meeting:
Given these completely false claims you've made, I am coming to the conclusion you really aren't serious about helping this investigation. Are you really here to shit-stir and try to push the "Muh...Voat is compromised. Mods are censors!" BS?
argosciv ago
Lol'd at the implication that NXIVM isn't pizzagate related.
Vindicator ago
The only one of those links I would say doesn't require a link is the Stormy Daniels one. All the rest are not well enough known. That's how we avoid fake news like Millenium Report, NeonNettle, YourNewsWire and Veterans Today. I've seen the post screenshots of fake Wikileaks emails which never existed, for example. Or post on a well known story without links, but add tidbits of too-good-to-be-true bullshit so conservatives will share it and look like idiots. Do you want us to be that way?
Our users adamantly voted against allowing that. Sorry, man.
Thank you for your military and first responder service, WoS. That is far more valuable than anything you'll ever post here.
As I said before, spend some time collaborating with others here, and you will quickly get a feel for what folks expect.
think- ago
Yes. You need to source everything. It's really simple. The rules are simple, really.
You know - as everyone who has interacted with me over an extended period of time will confirm, I'm rather stubborn. That's why I often like other people who also have this trait.
But I can tell you that this approach here in this context will lead to nowhere - if you continue to do your posts the way you're doing them, they will continue to get flaired. It's pointless.
It's also pointless to whine about the way you feel you get treated by the mods (after Millenial_Falcon left).
Some time ago, you complained that the mods tried to suppress info about the Edible Schoolyard project by deleting your posts about the topic.
It turned out that you ever only submitted one post about this topic that later got deleted, because you didn't edit it.
You didn't even bother to correct your allegation in your OP, although I asked you to present evidence for it, and you couldn't prove that there were several posts that got deleted.
My point is: Instead of just doing your homework, you go around and complain about the mods, when the only issue is that you don't feel like adhering to the rules.
It's a blatant lie that no one else is 'held to the same standards' as you are.
So please, please, for the sake of this investigation, ditch your stubborness and your self-pity, and just do what everybody else needs to do here: provide adequate sources. It's not that difficult. Really.
think- ago
Yes. You'd need to include the citations in the OP. If you run out of space, you can continue your OP text in the comment section, but the sources need to be in the OP, not seperately in the comments.
Crensch ago
https://archive.fo/nAHEW
@Vindicator
I think he fucked up here, but I'm not positive. I'm too busy to fully analyze this, but admitting to having that many alts seems pretty suspicious.
Vindicator ago
Yes, it's not good. Also concerning is the laundry list of submissions supposedly in violation of the submission rules that aren't actually in violation of the submission rules. I addressed them individually.
Crensch ago
The veracity of the claims has nothing to do with the rules, fuckbag.
Follow the submitting rules, or get your shit removed. Do it too much and get banned. I don't give a shit.