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Blacksmith21 ago

This is some Og/PG stuff right here. Culinary forensics.

I did a quick look at NoVA ag coops were CPP would have shopped for bulk tomatoes and not a lot of info out there. It's pretty easy to hire someone to contract grow X lbs of Y, Q, and R tomatoes for a certain price. You can grow a lot of tomatoes on an acre. Roma and San MArzano are determinant (I think) and are vining - grow up for big yield. Heirlooms are indeterminant (I think) and are a bush tomato. The first two are standard for canning tomatoes.

That's a pretty big canning operation.

"Where does he store the 10,000 cans at bucks that isn't already being used by bucks for food storage itself?" - At 3 lbs heirloom/roma mix averaged @ 2.00/lb contract grow (or for free paid in children) per jar, that's 6.00 (3 lbs per jar) + canning costs in labor, packing material, etc. + 2.00 (that's low) = 8.00 per jar X 10,000 jars = 80,000 for sauce X 5 pizzas per jar = 400,000 pizzas / 360 days (less holidays lol) = 1,111 pizzas per day. Bullshit.

Regardless - I go back to comments I've made earlier about "common construction techniques" used in DC. 5000 Conn Ave NW sits at 300' above sea level. Basements were typically constructed at the time when the block was developed. The land is flat, so if they dug one or more basements - which we know there are - they would have dug basements for all - it is EASIER to build - less work and materials! I'm pretty confidant that at some point, there was a basement and that it may have been sealed from view. These vile creatures are tunnel rats and have no problem digging and building subterranean quarters. There are basements down there.

There is minimal history on the this region of DC I've been able to dig up - input welcome.

septimasexta ago

Thanks. Many others contributed. I just pulled it together. What do you think the green image is on the CPP Sauce label? Am I missing something? Is this a "special" sauce?

Blacksmith21 ago

Here's a still: https://files.catbox.moe/or8iyr.JPG

To me, it looks like the top of a kids head peeking over the bottom of the label with a pair of seedlings popping out of the kid's head. What is more interesting to me is the fact that the jars are labeled, including a nutrition label. That would indicate the jars are for sale...and they are: https://www.cometpingpong.com/shop/comet-tomato-sauce

Moreover, I noticed that the description says: "Toigo Farms" - http://toigofarms.com/ located in Carlisle, PA. Interesting "logo" (woodcut) for the farms - woman and child.

Then I found Toigo Foundation, named for Robert Toigo, which offers scholarships for MBA students and is linked to Drexel, located in Philadelphia. A quick visit to toigofoundation.org, yielded this photo on their front page: https://files.catbox.moe/19l6do.JPG

Notice anyone familiar?

@vindicator @molochhunter @srayzie @darkknight111 - Could this be a potential new location for the rumored farm? I think the "Toigo" family is tied in through the farms (family name/money).

Vindicator ago

So I wonder if the basement "killroom" pics from Alefantis' Instagram match building permit records for Buck's?

Blacksmith21 ago

I'm trying to find the DCRA page to search historical permits. I found one for live permits, but doesn't list old ones. Also see that DCRA requires shop drawing upload for plan application. No luck yet finding if they can be viewed online. That would be some shit, is to look at the drawings which accompanied CPP, Bucks, etc. permits.

https://eservices.dcra.dc.gov/obpat/default.aspx

Vindicator ago

I know in my county, the county parcel map site listing all of the pieces of property and taxes etc. also links to historical permits.

Blacksmith21 ago

Are you watching Fox News by any chance?

Vindicator ago

No, I was not. Something interesting?

MolochHunter ago

didnt we already establish that the farm was that piggery where they have machinery to dispose of dead pigs and do colonial era re-enactments ?

Blacksmith21 ago

Claude Moore Colonial Farm? I remember that convo. I have my doubts. It's a National Park (not that it matters). It's smack in the middle of McLean too - not in remote location. I think Podesta may have hones his butchering skills there, but would be a bit brazen to render children.

That said, if the tunnel network, in close prox to Langley, is as extensive (would have to cross under Potomac) where kids could be brought from DC straight in....

I still think it's a more remote location in a surrounding county in VA, maybe MD.

srayzie ago

Wow great work. I can’t believe that tomato sauce label. Then the Toigo Farms logo. Geez. Was that Valerie Jarret? These people are so sick.

Blacksmith21 ago

Yup - VJ. No coincidences. Connected by "Comet Pingpong Sauce".

think- ago

Connected by "Comet Pingpong Sauce".

LOL

@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall

septimasexta ago

Great research Blacksmith! Glad you brought up "Mark Toigo, CEO of Toigo Farms, is also the Director of DC Central Kitchen -"

I was about to make the following post, which ties in Alice Waters, Joan Nathan (cookbook author, friend of Alefantis) mentioned in the VOAT link at the bottom of my original post, D.C. Central Kitchen, Tony Podesta, and a fundraising group called Sips & Suppers:

"Monday, February 2, 2015 Washington Social Diary WINTER WARMTH FROM GOOD FOOD AND CHARITY by Carol Joynt

"In only its seventh year, the annual January Sips & Suppers fundraising weekend has become a fixture of the Washington winter social calendar. The brainchild of three notable chefs, DC’s own Jose Andres and Joan Nathan, and Berkeley, CA., foodie icon Alice Waters, it raises money for two organizations that are key in aiding the homeless in the nation’s capital – DC Central Kitchen and Martha’s Table. This year they hit close to $600,000."

"“The hosts are key to the success of the event,” says Nathan, adding they get chosen in two ways – they ask or they are asked. This year the hosts included Washington Nationals superstar Ryan Zimmerman and his wife, Heather; philanthropists George and Trish Vradenburg, lobbyist Tony Podesta, author Quinn Bradlee, The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward and Elsa Walsh, Graham Holdings’ Marcus Brauchli, media and tennis consultants Ray and Nina Benton, Politics and Prose bookstore owners Lissa Muscatine and Bradley Graham, and restaurateur James Alefantis, among many others. The Bentons and the Vradenburgs go back to the beginning. There were 33 dinners in all. Waters, Nathan and Andres typically journey around town from dinner to dinner, popping in to say “thank you.”" http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/across-the-nationacross-the-world/2015/washington-social-diary-3 LOTS OF PHOTOS AND MORE INFO

think- ago

Well, please do a post about, @septimasexta. Very interesting.

Blacksmith21 ago

All sorts of sketchy folks in that article, including a neighbor's brother LOL. The whole DC-arts-culinary-philanthropy scene is filled with these creeps. Probably the same in any large city, really.

septimasexta ago

We need an ARTS REFORMATION. The arts have been HIJACKED by these vile people.

Yuke ago

I just made a post yesterday with a theory about the probable codeword 'Panda' being code for Asian kids (the post is in the Desmond is amazing thread and refers to a half-asian fashion designer being referred to as Panda because he has the Asian heritage). When I saw the labels of that sauce what I saw was a little Asian kid peeking over a wall or counter or something. What do you think?

septimasexta ago

Is this how you explain the crude comments on Jimmy Comets Instagram photos with panda images (#cumpanda)? http://themillenniumreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/NEKj3rl.png

You might be on to something.

Yuke ago

It's just a theory at the minute but ever since reading that guys comments about being called it because he's of asian origin it really made me think that it could be. I'll be keeping an eye on it and hoping to find something else to either confirm or deny that one.