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Blacksmith21 ago

This is some Og/PG stuff right here. Culinary forensics.

I did a quick look at NoVA ag coops were CPP would have shopped for bulk tomatoes and not a lot of info out there. It's pretty easy to hire someone to contract grow X lbs of Y, Q, and R tomatoes for a certain price. You can grow a lot of tomatoes on an acre. Roma and San MArzano are determinant (I think) and are vining - grow up for big yield. Heirlooms are indeterminant (I think) and are a bush tomato. The first two are standard for canning tomatoes.

That's a pretty big canning operation.

"Where does he store the 10,000 cans at bucks that isn't already being used by bucks for food storage itself?" - At 3 lbs heirloom/roma mix averaged @ 2.00/lb contract grow (or for free paid in children) per jar, that's 6.00 (3 lbs per jar) + canning costs in labor, packing material, etc. + 2.00 (that's low) = 8.00 per jar X 10,000 jars = 80,000 for sauce X 5 pizzas per jar = 400,000 pizzas / 360 days (less holidays lol) = 1,111 pizzas per day. Bullshit.

Regardless - I go back to comments I've made earlier about "common construction techniques" used in DC. 5000 Conn Ave NW sits at 300' above sea level. Basements were typically constructed at the time when the block was developed. The land is flat, so if they dug one or more basements - which we know there are - they would have dug basements for all - it is EASIER to build - less work and materials! I'm pretty confidant that at some point, there was a basement and that it may have been sealed from view. These vile creatures are tunnel rats and have no problem digging and building subterranean quarters. There are basements down there.

There is minimal history on the this region of DC I've been able to dig up - input welcome.

septimasexta ago

Thanks. Many others contributed. I just pulled it together. What do you think the green image is on the CPP Sauce label? Am I missing something? Is this a "special" sauce?

Blacksmith21 ago

Here's a still: https://files.catbox.moe/or8iyr.JPG

To me, it looks like the top of a kids head peeking over the bottom of the label with a pair of seedlings popping out of the kid's head. What is more interesting to me is the fact that the jars are labeled, including a nutrition label. That would indicate the jars are for sale...and they are: https://www.cometpingpong.com/shop/comet-tomato-sauce

Moreover, I noticed that the description says: "Toigo Farms" - http://toigofarms.com/ located in Carlisle, PA. Interesting "logo" (woodcut) for the farms - woman and child.

Then I found Toigo Foundation, named for Robert Toigo, which offers scholarships for MBA students and is linked to Drexel, located in Philadelphia. A quick visit to toigofoundation.org, yielded this photo on their front page: https://files.catbox.moe/19l6do.JPG

Notice anyone familiar?

@vindicator @molochhunter @srayzie @darkknight111 - Could this be a potential new location for the rumored farm? I think the "Toigo" family is tied in through the farms (family name/money).

Vindicator ago

So I wonder if the basement "killroom" pics from Alefantis' Instagram match building permit records for Buck's?

Blacksmith21 ago

I'm trying to find the DCRA page to search historical permits. I found one for live permits, but doesn't list old ones. Also see that DCRA requires shop drawing upload for plan application. No luck yet finding if they can be viewed online. That would be some shit, is to look at the drawings which accompanied CPP, Bucks, etc. permits.

https://eservices.dcra.dc.gov/obpat/default.aspx

Vindicator ago

I know in my county, the county parcel map site listing all of the pieces of property and taxes etc. also links to historical permits.

Blacksmith21 ago

Are you watching Fox News by any chance?

Vindicator ago

No, I was not. Something interesting?