His user name on reddit is Guy who Alefantis threatened Here it is Game of Thrones At least that is how I remember it. If that is the Same Guy. We should ask him to do it here. No one has asked any questions on that reddit post.
It's great to see you still active! I hope you get the chance to do an AMA. I'll just make an observation here about which direction I think the story should take.
After 28 months of citizen investigation, it is clear that the strongest case we can make is against the cover-up. You've done great work in this regard, because while the Pegasus museum itself is interesting, Jimmy Comet's attempts to shut you up are positively fascinating. You really did them major damage by standing up to his threats.
I originally talked about this way back in August of last year. What I said then obviously got under Jimmy's skin in similar if milder fashion to your project, because he felt compelled to come on Voat and try to steer me in a different direction, as I explained in November.
The key point is that these guys have been relatively complacent and undisciplined, and when confronted by someone who knows their tricks, they are not particularly skilled. They have relied much too heavily on the corrupt DC cops and protection from above. We can goad them into making more mistakes, and by demonstrating their vulnerability, we encourage others to come forward.
The result of two years of relentless pressure is that now, real victims are starting to turn up that can tie the Clintons directly to child sex trafficking. This at least is what I think happened with Jenny Moore. There were three different people who spoke with the young man who was raped by Bill Clinton. There is video of the interview. And Jenny's death was hugely suspicious. They were in a very nasty bind, since they couldn't let her go ahead and pester ICE and Homeland Security with her charges, but killing her would also draw attention to the story. All of that is a huge new problem for them.
I hope you'll have a look at my investigative series from last year (check my submission history), if you haven't already. But even more important than that is that we all keep picking away at the cover-up. It is the weakest point in their position.
I was around at the beginning and to me all the Instagrams and comments for We The Pizza, Jimmy Comet and others are what is so damning. Many of us have screen shots. The ping pong places too. Even the GIF on WL were full of Hot Dog and Pizza stuff in Austin at Str.....
Do we have to go through this every single time? I mean, seriously, do you imagine that asking this sort of lame question gets you somewhere?
The citizen investigation (or a major part of it) started when FBI Anon carried out his first AMA on /pol/ on July 2nd 2016, saying that he was involved in the Clinton email investigation. He said that if the full truth about the Clinton Foundation came out, it would bring down the government.
Then later in July, the DNC emails were leaked and Seth Rich was killed. Killing whistleblowers is a pretty clear indication of a cover-up.
I have already explained how the cover-up REALLY started back in June 2013, with the Glenn Beck whistleblower incident, and you have already dismissed that argument without (you say) even bothering to read it. So for simplicity, we'll call this the "latest" cover-up or the "current phase" of the cover-up. Strictly speaking, it has only been 27 months since Seth Rich was killed, not 28, but one can also date the start from the June 27 meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch on the airport tarmac. That was pretty clearly cover-up activity as well.
Any other dumb leading questions you'd like to ask, Counsellor? And have you picked a jurisdiction to flee to when the DOJ finally unfucks itself and gets down to work?
And have you picked a jurisdiction to flee to when the DOJ finally unfucks itself and gets down to work?
Why do you believe such stupidity? ......I guess the rest of the post explains that.
FBI Anon was bigger bullshit than Q. What the fuck does this mean? The server from Benghazi? WTF does this mean?
Question 1-006b
People do not realize how enormous this whole situation actually is
Can you elaborate on that?
The real point of interest is the Clinton Foundation, not the e-mail server. We received the
server from Benghazi, then from the server we found data on the CF. Then we realized the
situation is much worse than previously thought.
This one is funny too
Question 1-007
the entire government to be brought down
I very much doubt this.
She has SAP level programs on her server, which if made public, would literally cause an
uprising and possibly foreign declarations of war.
I'll play along.
We know that the highest classified emails were a 22 email thread where CIA and State folks talked very vaguely about the CIA drone program because they knew they were not on the secure system. The CIA drone program is a top secret/special access program and even though it's not a secret and routinely openly talked about any reference to it, even in a private email is TS/SAP. The emails didn't mention CIA or drones or any names or details because the officials were talking on their "low side" nonsecure emails so they put no real information in them. That's it that's the most dangerous thing on her computer.
What the fuck does this mean? The server from Benghazi? WTF does this mean?
It's not all that mysterious. If you substitute the somewhat clearer phrase "because of" for the word "from," it's obvious what FBI Anon is talking about. When the State Department was asked to turn over Clinton's emails relating to Benghazi, they only turned over eight of them. Then it eventually transpired that she was operating a private server, and after several years of delay, she turned over 33,000 emails from that while wiping the rest. From those emails it became apparent that she was engaging in "pay for play" and other corrupt practices relating to the CF. (Well, again technically there was other evidence apart from the emails that helped to establish that point, such as her engagements calendar which showed that the majority of her time that wasn't spent on other government employees was spent on CF donors. But the emails were essential to that finding as well.)
You can play dumb about the meaning of the word "from" and you can express astonishment about the "pay for play" allegations, but these are utterly uncontroversial points. They wouldn't normally merit being called a conspiracy theory, and they stand up quite well regardless of what anyone thinks about Pizzagate. There is, after all, an active FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation right now.
FBI Anon: She has SAP level programs on her server, which if made public, would literally cause an uprising and possibly foreign declarations of war.
Clinton Hack Lawyer: *The emails didn't mention CIA or drones or any names or details because the officials were talking on their "low side" nonsecure emails so they put no real information in them. That's it that's the most dangerous thing on her computer.
Well, yes and no. You've gone over the email chains in many previous threads, and I won't debate the technical issue of how they were classified because (a) you've largely gotten that right, and (b) it's irrelevant.
FBI Anon's response to Question 1-007 is particularly unrevealing and unhelpful, which I imagine is why you focused on that one. Here's another one where FBI Anon made a claim that I have never been able to verify:
FBI Anon 1-049: All I can tell you about the SAPs is HRC had them, and she did not have proper authority to have any of them. They were leaked to her by someone, and she did sell them to overseas donors. Possessing them alone makes her guilty of treason.
As I said, I don't know how FBI Anon knew this, or even if it was true. He very clearly threw in some misinformation and misdirection just to protect himself. I wouldn't waste any time defending the view he expresses of Jews and the Holocaust, for example. When he is asked if he "named the Jew" and he replies "The nose knows," he's almost certainly just fucking with /pol/. Likewise when he tells us that "life exists elsewhere in the galaxy" or "deporting all blacks would be a great thing". But in dozens of his responses, he states his main point very clearly:
FBI Anon 1-030: My message to you and everyone on this board is do not get distracted by Clinton’s e-mails. Focus on the Foundation. All of the nightmarish truth is there. The e-mails will pale in comparison.
FBI Anon 1-040a and 1-040b I will put it to you this way. You have three choices:
A) Turn over all of the information to the DOJ, make public a recommendation, the truth comes out, the entire world realizes how much the US is meddling in foreign affairs and we go to war. The civilian population realizes how much foreign money influences out government, and a civil war begins.
B) You cherry-pick the data to implicate the people already in the eye of public opinion, so the chips fall on the heads of a select few and the whole system does not crash.
C) You do nothing and watch the unstable political climate to gauge how you will respond.
I am confident if Trump wins she will be going to jail.
Here's the main thing that FBI Anon did not say in that first session: That the biggest "nightmare" he was trying to alert us to was child sex trafficking and the CF's involvement in it. He waited until his second AMA to delve into that, for example Question 2-079.
FBI Anon 2-079: Sex rings are popular in all governments, but pedophilia is primarily in British parliament & Saudi Arabia, and that’s why HRC and BC love foreign donors so much. They get paid in children as well as money. Dig deep and you can find it. It will sicken you.
So my broad reply to your nit-picking is that the current cover-up was of the Clinton Foundation's corruption and in particular its child sex trafficking, and that it started when Bill met Loretta on the tarmac.
Clinton Hack Lawyer: So the cover is Seth Rich plus tarmac meeting and what else? What's your best case?
Heh. You probably already realized this, because while you're something of a one-trick pony, you're not stupid. But you're not getting my best case. We've been well past that point for months now. You'll see my best case when it's part of an indictment, or when Glenn Greenwald explains it to everyone on The Intercept. Confronting the shills on Voat was a very, very useful exercise, but it has become mostly played out. As I've said several times, I don't come here in search of information or to convince the handful of people who aren't sockpuppets. I just come to keep you all looking over your shoulders.
However, if you want to keep cherry-picking questions that you think are safe for your side, in hopes of learning something, be my guest. I can play that game.
From those emails it became apparent that she was engaging in "pay for play" and other corrupt practices relating to the CF.
Actually this was not found at all.
Clinton Hack Lawyer: *The emails didn't mention CIA or drones or any names or details because the officials were talking on their "low side" nonsecure emails so they put no real information in them. That's it that's the most dangerous thing on her computer.
LOL. You think I'm a lawyer and I work for the Clintons? Insane.
FBI Anon 1-049: All I can tell you about the SAPs is HRC had them, and she did not have proper authority to have any of them. They were leaked to her by someone, and she did sell them to overseas donors. Possessing them alone makes her guilty of treason.
As I said, I don't know how FBI Anon knew this, or even if it was true.
Dude, we know this absolutely NOT TRUE. Bullshit on the leaks. Bullshit on selling them. Triple Bullshit on possession.
Double bullshit on Treason.
What is true is that emails considered SAP were on her server and how did FBI Anon know this? It was known for months before he commented. It was known since January 2016. Here's a story from February discussing the fact it was about the drone program, this is before the details of these emails were released and the fact they were vague, had no details, no names. FBI Anon is trying to exploit this unknown by filling it in with bullshit speculation. The emails are SAP simply because the drone program is SAP. Had the emails been actually dangerous, this would have blown up and gone beyond Hillary. The senders of the emails would have been guilty of crimes.
The issue with Clinton with regard to classified info HAS ALWAYS common "spillage" which is pretty wipespread throughout the government. Spillage is when classified info gets into nonsecure systems. It never involved classified documents, she would view classified into in HARD COPY after it was taken off SIPRNET, (the "high-side" secure system). This involved references in non-secure emails to classied info or programs on "low-side" non secure email accounts. That is, the issue originated on emails SENT TO Clinton. You can't send an email from SIPRNET to clintonemail.com because SIPRNET is not connected to the regular internet. The private server is non issue in this case. The folks writing the emails were using their non secure state.gov or cia.gov or nsc.gov email accounts. The issue would be the same if she used a state.gov account. When receiving emails from non secure accounts, there's no expectation that you are dealing with classified material like there would be on SIPRNET. This is why classified documents are always obviously marked.
So my broad reply to your nit-picking is that the current cover-up was of the Clinton Foundation's corruption and in particular its child sex trafficking, and that it started when Bill met Loretta on the tarmac.
My broad reply to your nitpicking is a wide ranging and evidence free conspiracy theory......based on a fake FBI agent on 4chan.
You'll see my best case when it's part of an indictment, or when Glenn Greenwald explains it to everyone on The Intercept.
hahahaha. Also there will be unicorns and rainbows. And everyone gets a pony signed by Glenn Greenwald himself!
"Cringeworthy James Alefantis Interview w/ Megyn Kelly [12/5/16]"
James, exactly how many bullets were fired? Where were they fired? When were they fired? No one heard them, or saw him shoot...LOL!
Remember, YOU WEREN'T THERE. LOL!
I completely agree. They are vulnerable for the first time in their existence. They over extended themselves with the censorship/coverup. This was only a temporary fix and I’m not sure they realize that.
Glad you agree. As for whether they understand how bad the situation really is ... well, sort of. They understand that the changes Trump is making at FBI and DOJ are gradually becoming irreversible. Even if they were to win back the House (unlikely), they wouldn't be able to impeach him. Even if they won back the Senate too, and impeached him, they'd only get Pence instead. I think Pence is rightly pissed at being called a pedophile and the worst serial killer in American history, and among the many things that the FBI and DOJ will do (under Pence or Trump), they will hunt down the people who did that -- "Tory Smith" and Alexandra Meadors.
So there is no escape, and the footsoldiers understand that individually. They're probably stoned or drunk a good deal of the time, even more than before. But I think staff meetings at the child-sex-trafficking cartel are probably still characterized by a lot of phony good cheer. There's always some scheme to rest your hopes on. Even when Hitler's bunker was being shelled and Berlin was surrounded, he still drew arrows on maps like it meant something. I'm sure John Podesta and David Brock are scribbling madly on a whiteboard somewhere.
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septimasexta ago
Tell him to post his AMA on VOAT so we don't have to join Reddit.
carmencita ago
His user name on reddit is Guy who Alefantis threatened Here it is Game of Thrones At least that is how I remember it. If that is the Same Guy. We should ask him to do it here. No one has asked any questions on that reddit post.
IsThisGameOfThrones ago
Would love to participate in an AMA here.
SoberSecondThought ago
It's great to see you still active! I hope you get the chance to do an AMA. I'll just make an observation here about which direction I think the story should take.
After 28 months of citizen investigation, it is clear that the strongest case we can make is against the cover-up. You've done great work in this regard, because while the Pegasus museum itself is interesting, Jimmy Comet's attempts to shut you up are positively fascinating. You really did them major damage by standing up to his threats.
I originally talked about this way back in August of last year. What I said then obviously got under Jimmy's skin in similar if milder fashion to your project, because he felt compelled to come on Voat and try to steer me in a different direction, as I explained in November.
The key point is that these guys have been relatively complacent and undisciplined, and when confronted by someone who knows their tricks, they are not particularly skilled. They have relied much too heavily on the corrupt DC cops and protection from above. We can goad them into making more mistakes, and by demonstrating their vulnerability, we encourage others to come forward.
The result of two years of relentless pressure is that now, real victims are starting to turn up that can tie the Clintons directly to child sex trafficking. This at least is what I think happened with Jenny Moore. There were three different people who spoke with the young man who was raped by Bill Clinton. There is video of the interview. And Jenny's death was hugely suspicious. They were in a very nasty bind, since they couldn't let her go ahead and pester ICE and Homeland Security with her charges, but killing her would also draw attention to the story. All of that is a huge new problem for them.
I hope you'll have a look at my investigative series from last year (check my submission history), if you haven't already. But even more important than that is that we all keep picking away at the cover-up. It is the weakest point in their position.
Mommyplayer571 ago
I was around at the beginning and to me all the Instagrams and comments for We The Pizza, Jimmy Comet and others are what is so damning. Many of us have screen shots. The ping pong places too. Even the GIF on WL were full of Hot Dog and Pizza stuff in Austin at Str.....
Are_we_sure ago
What cover up occurred?
28 months? When did this begin and what was the start of it?
SoberSecondThought ago
Do we have to go through this every single time? I mean, seriously, do you imagine that asking this sort of lame question gets you somewhere?
The citizen investigation (or a major part of it) started when FBI Anon carried out his first AMA on /pol/ on July 2nd 2016, saying that he was involved in the Clinton email investigation. He said that if the full truth about the Clinton Foundation came out, it would bring down the government.
Then later in July, the DNC emails were leaked and Seth Rich was killed. Killing whistleblowers is a pretty clear indication of a cover-up.
I have already explained how the cover-up REALLY started back in June 2013, with the Glenn Beck whistleblower incident, and you have already dismissed that argument without (you say) even bothering to read it. So for simplicity, we'll call this the "latest" cover-up or the "current phase" of the cover-up. Strictly speaking, it has only been 27 months since Seth Rich was killed, not 28, but one can also date the start from the June 27 meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch on the airport tarmac. That was pretty clearly cover-up activity as well.
Any other dumb leading questions you'd like to ask, Counsellor? And have you picked a jurisdiction to flee to when the DOJ finally unfucks itself and gets down to work?
Are_we_sure ago
Why do you believe such stupidity? ......I guess the rest of the post explains that.
FBI Anon was bigger bullshit than Q. What the fuck does this mean? The server from Benghazi? WTF does this mean?
This one is funny too
I'll play along.
We know that the highest classified emails were a 22 email thread where CIA and State folks talked very vaguely about the CIA drone program because they knew they were not on the secure system. The CIA drone program is a top secret/special access program and even though it's not a secret and routinely openly talked about any reference to it, even in a private email is TS/SAP. The emails didn't mention CIA or drones or any names or details because the officials were talking on their "low side" nonsecure emails so they put no real information in them. That's it that's the most dangerous thing on her computer.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/hillary-clinton-emailed-on-cia-drone-strikes-in-pakistan/news-story/efde9067d7fb60434e94f5b9300ada5d
So the cover is Seth Rich plus tarmac meeting and what else? What's your best case?
SoberSecondThought ago
It's not all that mysterious. If you substitute the somewhat clearer phrase "because of" for the word "from," it's obvious what FBI Anon is talking about. When the State Department was asked to turn over Clinton's emails relating to Benghazi, they only turned over eight of them. Then it eventually transpired that she was operating a private server, and after several years of delay, she turned over 33,000 emails from that while wiping the rest. From those emails it became apparent that she was engaging in "pay for play" and other corrupt practices relating to the CF. (Well, again technically there was other evidence apart from the emails that helped to establish that point, such as her engagements calendar which showed that the majority of her time that wasn't spent on other government employees was spent on CF donors. But the emails were essential to that finding as well.)
You can play dumb about the meaning of the word "from" and you can express astonishment about the "pay for play" allegations, but these are utterly uncontroversial points. They wouldn't normally merit being called a conspiracy theory, and they stand up quite well regardless of what anyone thinks about Pizzagate. There is, after all, an active FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation right now.
Well, yes and no. You've gone over the email chains in many previous threads, and I won't debate the technical issue of how they were classified because (a) you've largely gotten that right, and (b) it's irrelevant.
FBI Anon's response to Question 1-007 is particularly unrevealing and unhelpful, which I imagine is why you focused on that one. Here's another one where FBI Anon made a claim that I have never been able to verify:
As I said, I don't know how FBI Anon knew this, or even if it was true. He very clearly threw in some misinformation and misdirection just to protect himself. I wouldn't waste any time defending the view he expresses of Jews and the Holocaust, for example. When he is asked if he "named the Jew" and he replies "The nose knows," he's almost certainly just fucking with /pol/. Likewise when he tells us that "life exists elsewhere in the galaxy" or "deporting all blacks would be a great thing". But in dozens of his responses, he states his main point very clearly:
Here's the main thing that FBI Anon did not say in that first session: That the biggest "nightmare" he was trying to alert us to was child sex trafficking and the CF's involvement in it. He waited until his second AMA to delve into that, for example Question 2-079.
So my broad reply to your nit-picking is that the current cover-up was of the Clinton Foundation's corruption and in particular its child sex trafficking, and that it started when Bill met Loretta on the tarmac.
Heh. You probably already realized this, because while you're something of a one-trick pony, you're not stupid. But you're not getting my best case. We've been well past that point for months now. You'll see my best case when it's part of an indictment, or when Glenn Greenwald explains it to everyone on The Intercept. Confronting the shills on Voat was a very, very useful exercise, but it has become mostly played out. As I've said several times, I don't come here in search of information or to convince the handful of people who aren't sockpuppets. I just come to keep you all looking over your shoulders.
However, if you want to keep cherry-picking questions that you think are safe for your side, in hopes of learning something, be my guest. I can play that game.
Are_we_sure ago
So her server. OK.
Actually this was not found at all.
LOL. You think I'm a lawyer and I work for the Clintons? Insane.
Dude, we know this absolutely NOT TRUE. Bullshit on the leaks. Bullshit on selling them. Triple Bullshit on possession.
Double bullshit on Treason.
What is true is that emails considered SAP were on her server and how did FBI Anon know this? It was known for months before he commented. It was known since January 2016. Here's a story from February discussing the fact it was about the drone program, this is before the details of these emails were released and the fact they were vague, had no details, no names. FBI Anon is trying to exploit this unknown by filling it in with bullshit speculation. The emails are SAP simply because the drone program is SAP. Had the emails been actually dangerous, this would have blown up and gone beyond Hillary. The senders of the emails would have been guilty of crimes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/06/us/politics/agencies-battle-over-what-is-top-secret-in-hillary-clintons-emails.html 182436
The issue with Clinton with regard to classified info HAS ALWAYS common "spillage" which is pretty wipespread throughout the government. Spillage is when classified info gets into nonsecure systems. It never involved classified documents, she would view classified into in HARD COPY after it was taken off SIPRNET, (the "high-side" secure system). This involved references in non-secure emails to classied info or programs on "low-side" non secure email accounts. That is, the issue originated on emails SENT TO Clinton. You can't send an email from SIPRNET to clintonemail.com because SIPRNET is not connected to the regular internet. The private server is non issue in this case. The folks writing the emails were using their non secure state.gov or cia.gov or nsc.gov email accounts. The issue would be the same if she used a state.gov account. When receiving emails from non secure accounts, there's no expectation that you are dealing with classified material like there would be on SIPRNET. This is why classified documents are always obviously marked.
My broad reply to your nitpicking is a wide ranging and evidence free conspiracy theory......based on a fake FBI agent on 4chan.
hahahaha. Also there will be unicorns and rainbows. And everyone gets a pony signed by Glenn Greenwald himself!
septimasexta ago
James, can you explain this photo? 8th photo down. Now we know why David wears glasses. LOL! https://www.camprehoboth.com/letters/2000/july-28-2000-campshots Here's to you Barney! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5NrqqK60OI
septimasexta ago
"DC Mayor and City Council Honor Peter D. Rosenstein" http://www.thegeorgetowndish.com/thedish/dc-mayor-and-city-council-honor-peter-d-rosenstein HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETER!
septimasexta ago
"What cover up occurred?' JAMES, Your sick, twisted PUBLIC Instagram photos went PRIVATE.
Are_we_sure ago
Hi, if you think I'm James Alefantis, you're mentally ill.
And that's not a cover up.
septimasexta ago
https://realitycallsshow.com/banned-from-youtube-james-alefantis-instagram-account-images-pizzagate/ https://www.instagram.com/p/BOqd9OZA2TJ/
septimasexta ago
Really? That's your best reply? LOL! Like I said, low on the Totem pole.
septimasexta ago
"Cringeworthy James Alefantis Interview w/ Megyn Kelly [12/5/16]" James, exactly how many bullets were fired? Where were they fired? When were they fired? No one heard them, or saw him shoot...LOL! Remember, YOU WEREN'T THERE. LOL!
IsThisGameOfThrones ago
I completely agree. They are vulnerable for the first time in their existence. They over extended themselves with the censorship/coverup. This was only a temporary fix and I’m not sure they realize that.
SoberSecondThought ago
Glad you agree. As for whether they understand how bad the situation really is ... well, sort of. They understand that the changes Trump is making at FBI and DOJ are gradually becoming irreversible. Even if they were to win back the House (unlikely), they wouldn't be able to impeach him. Even if they won back the Senate too, and impeached him, they'd only get Pence instead. I think Pence is rightly pissed at being called a pedophile and the worst serial killer in American history, and among the many things that the FBI and DOJ will do (under Pence or Trump), they will hunt down the people who did that -- "Tory Smith" and Alexandra Meadors.
So there is no escape, and the footsoldiers understand that individually. They're probably stoned or drunk a good deal of the time, even more than before. But I think staff meetings at the child-sex-trafficking cartel are probably still characterized by a lot of phony good cheer. There's always some scheme to rest your hopes on. Even when Hitler's bunker was being shelled and Berlin was surrounded, he still drew arrows on maps like it meant something. I'm sure John Podesta and David Brock are scribbling madly on a whiteboard somewhere.