This user has attacked mods, lied about mods, accused mods of crimes, supported known liars and disinfo shills, and has some very suspicious things going on with the account, including death threats on me and @Vindicator linked to the username. Sorry in advance for the suckfest this is, but it seems dealing with these particular types of usernames requires a lot of background information and behavioural pattern context. The bottom line is these "people" lie, and lie, and lie some more, and lie again, and double down constantly; it never stops, and the lies seem accepted by other users in their group which causes the unwary normie to think the accusations and lies legitimate.
For those that are interested in the context and Springer-tier drama showing she lies and accuses srayzie of awful things and why user @zyklon_b is relevant, you will find it all here.
Gothamgirl threatens mods with having spoken to the police
Gothamgirl accuses srayzie of being responsible for the disappearance of pizzagaters, threatening to kidnap her child, and PUTTING CHILD PORN IN HER PHONE
This is what happens when you ask Gothamgirl to support her claims. Then she goes on to ask if I'm knocking Titus' work, too as if that's some kind of untouchable sacred cow. Apparently what I MISSED in the "Here's a .pdf that it's not safe to download, just take my word for it that the contents are real!" thread is this drivel:
soon to be new By age kennedy Missing identification card?runk rn and I'd hope you'd do Qhe *ork for meXXX As for *haQ drove me Qo DG, iQ *ould definiQely have Qo do iQh Qhe experimenQal aspecQ Qhey bring forQhX MeQal kinda alays gives Qhis !hey, you're angry and *eirdX Guess *haQ, QhaQ's OK!! And honesQly DG furQhers QhaQ by saying !hey, Qhere are primal subconscious urges deep *iQhin youX Defying Qhem and indulging Qhem makes you sQ
That nothing whatsoever came of. It's the kind of thing I would do if I was doing something bad and had unlimited funds to send people out posting crazy shit that kinda looked like it might be a lead in order to keep the 'investigation' going in perpetuity.
For some reason during all of this, username @StephaniePaddock decides to post this threat against me and @Vindicator, and this one includes @gamepwn for some reason. Coincidence? Maybe. But how did GothamGirl find out about it just to claim she had nothing to do with it? Another happy coincidence that she stumbled upon it? Again, maybe. But why does her paramour, (proof of claim) @zyklon_b's bio say "I am a performance artist ALL here is satire." and the username claims, "Performance art."
For the record, I, like @srayzie, like zyklon_b... or did. But he has the motive, the same words, and the shitposting plausible deniability badge for being a shitposter. If you were framed, Zyklon, my apologies, but instead of telling that bitch to be cool, you supported her in continuing her attacks despite me being involved and you knowing what happens when I get involved; hell, you even said you knew she was in the wrong, dude.
To /v/PizzagateNoMod @Gothamgirl posts complete horseshit numbered up to 162 there, apparently copied from some random website that very clearly posts low-tier bot wordsalad. It's not just 162 submission, because many are separated into parts like this one "LHOHQ "Info/search" #125 Part 3". More of her posts have just the 1 upvote and zero comments than not, suggesting that nobody has found anything of value in anything she posts. Entire pages of 1upvote/0comments show up in her history.
Checking this page, you can see she has 911(exactly) posts to PizzagateNoMod, which suggests she was posting horseshit simply to reach that number for some symbolic message to others or for some unhinged psychological need. Her submission and comment most downvoted tells a story of someone who submitted such useless and nonsensical shit that nobody cared to really investigate what she was writing, and that her comments were so boring that her most downvoted have happened in the past 2 weeks.
To me, all of this suggests that she is a mostly-botted (or insanity-driven) account that has been activated for the deep state's last Hail Mary play to distract you all and cause burnout on the mod team with Jem777's unsubstantiated "death".
Anyone care to defend Gothamgirl? Anyone care to make a case for her not to get flaired? If so, bring your A game below. I am more than happy to change my position based on new evidence or other perspectives on the evidence.
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ESOTERICshade ago
I think the Jem situation was probably a flash in the pan and a weird anomaly that will disappear on its own you guys will stop calling attention to it.
I also think the flairing is a bad idea. It is a very slippery slope and it could devolve into mods flairing posters just because they think a poster is obnoxious. That is a privilege no mod should have in a supposed free speech zone.
It will also create division between posters and mods. Mods will be seen as "special" people and v/pizzagate will probably gain the reputation of being a place with gatekeeping mods. People will be afraid to truly speak their mind.
Making threads like this also feeds the trolls. They probably feel like they are winning and getting under your skin. If you start flairing people I think it might lead to a never ending situation of the same trolls testing the mods with new alts.
Sarah has been here a long time and will probably always be here. Instead of engaging it, which is what the trolls want, I would ignore it.
Vindicator ago
These are all valid points, ES. But how would you recommend dealing with users who take advantage of Voat's "Comments are Sacred" prime directive to regularly lie and deceive other users for the purposes of damaging the forum? This is one of the few tools Voat provides to deal with that.
Ten months ago, when Jem's false claims and manipulation stirred so many people up, I addressed the disinfo directly and politely. No one remembered that, however, in Voat's labyrinthine, ever-moving maze of comments and replies. All it took was one tweet by George Webb to throw this subverse into chaos for going on three weeks now.
The mod team has worked very, very hard to run this sub the way most users want, so that their hard work and research are not suppressed or subverted by forum sliding shills. We are not at all interested in creating a chilled atmosphere where people are afraid to speak, and have taken a strong position when we see that happening (as you know). There is absolutely no reason a person who respects other users and the community mission would ever GET a flair.
We have had this "privilege" all along, ES, and we have never once used it, let alone abused it. If a mod were to abuse it, it would give you ample ammo to appeal to Voat at large and have them removed. In that sense, it actually exposes mods to MORE oversight.
You can certainly make the argument that this might chill people's ability to just sling shit whenever they feel like it, which is a time-honored tradition on Voat at large. But this isn't Voat at large. It's a focused sub with a pointed mission that a small army with unlimited funding is paid to disrupt. People have the entire rest of Voat to vent their spleen, and username flairs earned here don't show outside of this sub.
On the other hand, allowing people to get off scott free for making baseless accusations against other users and mods DOES have a chilling effect on speech. You succeeded in driving the vast majority of those interested in researching Q to a whole different subverse in this manner.
@think- @Crensch
ESOTERICshade ago
I understand the accusations that were made against the mods in the Jem case were untrue. I get it.
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BUT just because you think someone is lying or trying to deceive does not mean they are. They might just understand the subject matter better than you do. Your occult knowledge is pretty weak, at best
The Q Larp becomes more ridiculous every week. A TON of people don't believe it is real. I spoke my mind on the subject. Q is an anonymous source that contributes nothing and as far as pizzagate goes, the Q larper just rehashes OUR research once in a while. This sub is for pizzagate, not a laboratory to examine anonymous larpers.
Vindicator ago
Jem told everyone I doxed her IP address and sent thugs to beat her up in her house, Esoteric. Just exactly what does that have to do with me "understaning occult knowledge" or not? I don't need initiation into gnostic mysteries to discern that kind of concern trolling bullshit. You can't just wave away her baseless claims with more baseless claims that a privileged few have special insight. At least not on v/pizzagate.
ESOTERICshade ago
That is bullshit and we all know it. You would never harm another Voat user and I know that. You never doxed anybody and you didn't dox Jem. Mods can't even see IP addresses. You have never done that and you never would in my opinion. Jem got banned because Jem could not follow the posting rules. I watched it all in real time. Jem got banned because of Jem. Jem understood the posting rules and refused to comply to those rules. I do not hold you, Vindicator, responsible for that. Jem did that to herself. I know that.
I will stand by my comment on that. Bro....everything in the occult world is about "duality" and everything has a "opposite." I tried to tell you one time that in an occult sense that "sarah" means "the mother of the Jews" but you just was not having it. If you don't believe me just look it up dude. I have a reason for the things I say ok? I love ya dude, but study....