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letsdothis2 ago

Definitely the pool at Biltmore Estate. Looks like military to me. So... As that Archer series was based on James Bond who, of course, was a spook..

Author examines ways Biltmore mansion intersected with US history - http://www.dispatch.com/entertainmentlife/20171008/author-examines-ways-biltmore-mansion-intersected-with-us-history

as Kiernan chronicles in “The Last Castle,” her new work of nonfiction, Biltmore was a financial catastrophe, even for someone with the wealth of a Vanderbilt. It took Vanderbilt’s widow, Edith, to salvage Biltmore for generations to come

I first saw Biltmore when I was a teenager. My father was stationed in Fort Jackson in South Carolina and my mom drove my sister and me up to look at the house. ... It really made quite an impression on me as a kid.

There were a lot of things I came across. ... Some were trivial but fascinating, such as Edith’s family’s role in the creation of the teddy bear. I never saw that coming.

Ah, so that's the connection between teddy bears and the Vanderbilts and pizzagate.. Also, a book on the historical context of the house.. thoughts of another UK mansion and its WW2 military connections came to mind - Bletchley Park- so, what would this 'historian' have in the pages of that book...

The Last Castle: The Epic Story of Love, Loss, and American Royalty in the Nation's Largest Home - www. amazon.com/Last-Castle-American-Royalty-Nations/dp/1476794057/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

“The Last Castle is a soaring and gorgeous American story that gripped me from the very first page. With a historian’s keen insight and a poet’s gift for language, Denise Kiernan depicts life at Biltmore with such skill, I felt like I was there through it all: weddings, divorces, elaborate (and slightly bizarre) balls, financial glory, financial ruin, murder, suicide, natural disasters, betrayals, love, loss, despair, and triumph.

Nope, written more like a soap opera than a historical document of the estate' history. Given the author is a daughter of a military man, I found that interesting. Maybe some of the estate's secrets are being kept firmly under wraps? Looking further afield...

Biltmore Estate hid precious art during World War II - https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article9097334.html

In the new World War II movie “The Monuments Men,” George Clooney and Matt Damon are army officers assigned to save historic artworks before they are plundered or destroyed by Hitler.

Asheville’s Biltmore Estate played a similar top-secret role when precious art was stashed at the big house during the war.

Famous works by Rembrandt, Raphael, Anthony van Dyck – even Gilbert Stuart’s George Washington portrait – were whisked away from Washington’s National Gallery of Art by train and hidden at the estate to protect against possible attacks.

“It was all done in secret,” said Darren Poupore, chief curator.

According to Cecil Vanderbilt, the house was open to the public in 1930 in an effort to pay for its upkeep. Then closed at the beginning of World War 2, and reopened again in 1946.

I bet it was a place for more than the storing of art. The closest military camps are Fort Jackson and Fort Bragg. Cecil himself served with the British Royal Navy. Just sayin....

think- ago

Asheville’s Biltmore Estate played a similar top-secret role when precious art was stashed at the big house during the war.

Famous works by Rembrandt, Raphael, Anthony van Dyck – even Gilbert Stuart’s George Washington portrait – were whisked away from Washington’s National Gallery of Art by train and hidden at the estate to protect against possible attacks.

Very interesting. Didn't know that.

I bet it was a place for more than the storing of art.

Yep, sounds probable.

letsdothis2 ago

The CIA School of Assassination at Fort Bragg - http://ciaschool.tripod.com/

Almost all of the instruction in the guerrilla warfare school was classified. The most secret was the top secret training in assassinations and terrorism. And at that time, we went to a different building that had a double barbwire fence around it, and guard dogs.

That's interesting because there is a connection between Jackie Kennedy and Biltmore:

From "Antler Hill Village: The Casual Side of Biltmore" pdf:

Antler Hill Village Attractions

The Biltmore Legacy – The “Fashionable Romance” exhibition held Feb. 12 – July 4, 2016, features Vanderbilt family wedding celebrations in Antler Hill Village & Winery. The exhibit showcases stories and heirlooms from 60 years of Vanderbilt family weddings, including a re-creation of Cornelia Vanderbilt Cecil's beautiful wedding gown and veil, and the family veil worn by both Jacqueline Kennedy and her cousin, Mary Lee Ryan Cecil, at their weddings.

letsdothis2 ago

Now on a more esoteric vein: antlers, harts and the hunt:

Experience the thrill of The Hunt [at Baltimore] - https://www.biltmore.com/blog/article/experience-the-thrill-of-the-hunt

We are honored to announce the release of our newest wine—The Hunt. Inspired by the celebration of feasts based on estate hunts

The Hunt is also a nod to Biltmore’s legendary architect, Richard Morris Hunt, who worked closely with George Vanderbilt to create the iconic French Renaissance-style chateau, which would be his final masterpiece of creative design and technological innovation.

Richard Morris Hunt - freemason and architect of the pedastal of the Statue of Liberty

https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2635157/13310891

Hart is an archaic word for "stag"... Specifically, "hart" was used in medieval times to describe a red deer stag more than five years old.

Hart in medieval hunting :

The king of all the wild animals was the deer, and more precisely the hart, which is an adult male of the red deer. The hart was classified by the number of tines, or points, on its antlers. An animal should have at least ten tines to be considered worthy of hunting; this was referred to as a "hart of ten."[3] Deer could be hunted in two different ways: par force ("by strength" and hereunder par force de chiens ("by force of dogs" )), and bow and stable.

Remember the Hart family and Fort Bragg (CA) story? Just thinking...

Zzzmmm333 ago

The lights in the pool have obviously been installed after the pool wasn't being used, or has it ever been used? As you don't run conduit and wires through a pool for fuck sake.. @exposethecriminals

letsdothis2 ago

From the article: Experience the thrill of The Hunt [at Baltimore] - https://www.biltmore.com/blog/article/experience-the-thrill-of-the-hunt

The Hunt’s striking label was inspired by the strong lines and rich heritage of an extraordinary firearm in Biltmore’s original collection and features a photograph of the finely wrought engraving of a vintage Auguste Francotte shotgun crafted of walnut, steel, and silver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francotte

Francotte is a weapons manufacturer in Liège, Belgium. It can be traced back to 1805, and is still in operation today.

Elite hunting: https://www.africahunting.com/threads/auguste-francotte-any-thoughts.22883/

They were a top shelf double builder - far more guns than rifles - but that was true of everyone else. Abercrombie and Fitch imported them into the US between the wars.

The bizarre history of Abercrombie & Fitch — and how the retailer is transforming yet again - http://uk.businessinsider.com/abercrombie-fitch-crazy-history-2011-4?r=US&IR=T

Abercrombie has transformed many times over the years.

It went from an outdoor gear shop in the late 19th century to a retailer known for oversexed, borderline-softcore pornographic ads. It was later maligned, and it looks like it's headed towards tame basics.

According to the company's Facebook page, David T. Abercrombie founded the company's first store in 1892. It sold hunting and fishing equipment and was called David T. Abercrombie Co.

During Abercrombie's peak, customers included Ernest Hemingway and Teddy Roosevelt, Bloomberg reports.

In 1988, it was swept up by The Limited for $47 million, according to Bloomberg.

The A&F catalog is arguably one of the most talked-about advertising vehicles in history. Parents hated its blatant sexuality, which is in part why kids were drawn to it.

In 1998 A&F launched abercrombie for ages 7 through 14, and in 2000 it opened its subsidiary, Hollister.

Related voat post:

More on the connection between Jeffrey Epstein and Leslie Wexner (The Limited/Victoria's Secret)

Wexler was Epstein's "mentor," and possibly his only financial client, which apparently raised some suspicions over the years. Wexler also possibly gave Epstein a mansion in New York that he rarely spent time in. (Here's a link to a prior thread from another contributor with some more info on the connection between Epstein and Wexler: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1548489 )

The New York Times article describes some oddities of the house when remodeled for Wexler, especially a bizarre bathroom. And apparently Bill Cosby lived across the street:

Visitors described a bathroom reminiscent of James Bond movies: hidden beneath a stairway, lined with lead to provide shelter from attack and supplied with closed-circuit television screens and a telephone, both concealed in a cabinet beneath the sink.

Telegraph 2015 article: Billionaire tycoon behind Victoria’s Secret 'keeps his multi-million Cotswolds estate away from prying eyes'

For years, the locals have watched the shooting parties coming and going from Foxcote House, a glorious 17th century stately home on the edge of the Cotswolds.

Mr Wexner flies his American family and friends into the Cotswolds estate by helicopter for shooting parties each autumn. He has built a giant hedge around Foxcote House to shield it from prying eyes.

He runs his business empire from a non-descript office building in Columbus, Ohio, but once a year in time for the shooting season, Mr Wexner and his entourage travel to the Cotswolds and decamp to Foxcote House, built in 1740, which sits atop a hill close to the honeyed stone village of Ilmington, Warwickshire.

Mr Wexner has largely succeeded in keeping his ownership of Foxcote out of the public eye despite the fact that he bought the estate 18 years ago for about £3m.

The Wexners fly in to the estate by helicopter for the annual pheasant shooting season each October, hosting traditional British shooting parties for his American friends in an adjoining former Catholic chapel.

“They fly people in from America to do the shooting. They fly in by private jet and then a huge helicopter. They are extremely nice but very, very private.”

Interesting..

letsdothis2 ago

On Liege, Belgium: Worldwide Anti-Trafficking Org with links to Dutroux, Clinton & Haiti opposite the White House - Founder worked for Hillary to weaken laws on international trafficking of prostitutes!

The Nexus Institute. Global Anti-Human Trafficking experts. Opposite the White House. https://nexusinstitute.net/

King Baudouin was named as a pedophile by one of the X-girls in the Dutroux scandal.

http://www.royalfoibles.com/sex-with-king-baudouin/

"At the end of these cellars there was an audience room where about fifty spectators were assembled. X3 recognized King Baudouin, his brother Albert, who at that time was Prince de Liege, and their uncle Prince Charles."