I’m writing this because I feel it needs to be said since people are making Jem out to be a martyr.
Now mods are attacked because that’s the disinfo that Jem pushed because @Vindicator banned her after many warnings. People have tried to put blame on him, people have said him and some of us other mods are evil. It’s going too far. I was just a regular user when she was banned. I worked my way up and got to know everyone. It’s nothing like what she describes. There isn’t some mod conspiracy against whistleblowers. I have private tweets of her trying to convince me of that as well. People can be hateful....
Here is one example. Read my reply underneath so you get an idea of where I’m coming from.
People have been urging me to share. I mean no disrespect. I believe Jem did did do a lot of good. But, you guys shouldn’t just go believe everything she’s shared. She exaggerated CONSTANTLY. She always needed to feel important. Plus, she had been working with George Webb all along I believe.
I’m sure some of you are going to be pissed off. I’m sorry. But, you can read thru this and make your own decision, at least I’m putting it out there for you guys to decide on your own.
She made the following tweets. Note how on the last one, it shows George Webb.
These were from Dec 15th. Notice the bottom one shows George Webb...
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She sent more pictures privately on Twitter...
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This is where it’s time to pay closer attention. She sent me these private messages with pictures of James Alefantis, who was supposedly watching her, following her, etc.. As well as talking about a secret bathroom.
See the pictures here...
https://images2.imgbox.com/ef/2b/SdbRMpel_o.jpeg
Here is a personal video she sent me from inside Comet ping pong telling me about a secret room off the bathroom...
https://streamable.com/e7h14
She was always defensive of George Webb. ALWAYS. She didn’t like me until I went thru a period of liking him too. I think she knew him all along. I think she was working with George Webb. So on the same night after going to Comet ping pong, we had a conversation about George Webb. You can see how happy she was being with him. I wondered if they were a couple.
Here is that conversation...
Jem talking about George.
A couple of days later, George Webb made some tweets. It pissed a lot of people off. This is how it started... First, he was accused of child trafficking with James Alefantis. So he showed up at Comet ping pong WITHIN THE HOUR. He must have been pretty concerned to do that.
What made people become so angry was how he described James Alefantis.
He said “I met James Alefantis. He is playing a role as sex predator at CIA.
Good actor. Good CIA man”. He later deleted those tweets and wouldn’t answer people’s questions when they got angry. If it was so important for him to go within the hour, all he said about that was that he’s quite sure he didn’t know James?
Here are the tweets below...
George Webb Tweets
An angry tweet from a user
AFTER George made that tweet, I had a private twitter conversation with Jem. She made light of it and tries to convince me that when George Webb is speaking, he uses psychological warfare. If he was using psychological warfare, then why delete his tweets?
Her story was falling apart. What about the pictures she sent showing James Alefantis and his CIA friend staring her down and following her? What about the secret room off the bathroom that she sent me a video of? She didn’t know that George Webb would tweet what he did so she had to come up with excuses. That’s just a short conversation. But she ended it by saying she thinks James Alefantis is a Finder.
Here is that conversation...
Conversation with Jem about George’s tweet.
We had a long conversation, full of her exaggerating things as usual, on the Dec 20th. But then on December 22nd, I had more questions about why George would say that James Alefantis was a Finder and make light of it saying he’s a good CIA man.
The Dec 22nd conversation was her trying to make me feel sympathy for poor George. Her describing a different story about what happened. The whole story regarding the bathroom changed. She sent me the video the day she took it. How come the new story contradicts what she had said the first time?
George said he showed up within the hour because he was being accused of knowing James Alefantis. Why does Jem say she brought George to keep him them distracted while she looked around? If she found nothing to be wrong, why were the pictures that she sent me ones that made it look like she felt threatened? Plus the secret room off the bathroom. Why did that story change?
Why did everything she said suddenly change after George made that tweet? It ended with her acting irritated and telling me to withhold judgement. Then why did she willingly give me all the “fake” information a week before? Why did she start getting defensive when asked? She didn’t know he was going to make that tweet.
Here is that conversation...
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I’m just sharing this because it’s related to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong. It’s just an example to show you that she was a limited hangout. She mixed some truth with some disinfo. Others have had experiences as well, but they can share if they choose to.
I would like to say before I’m killed off, that what I have on Jem isn’t anything incriminating. It’s just her usual exaggerated stories and experiences. The only reason I’m not sharing all of it is because it doesn’t apply to pizzagate and I don’t feel right about it.
Since I have been attacked repeatedly, I shared in the comments yesterday how Jem was connected to “Sarah”. A total stalker. It’s probably a guy or a group. @Jem777 and @Gothamgirl were both connected to Sarah.
That’s why GothamGirl got so angry and tried accusing me yesterday or miraculously planting child porn on her phone when I’ve never met her in my life. She said that once I joined pizzagate, people started disappearing. Oh and I threatened to kidnap her child supposedly too. That was just SOME of what she tried to pull yesterday. http://imgbox.com/hw7mLGwR
Anyway, here is me showing how Jem was connected to Sarah and how I was being stalked...
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589301
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589525
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Blacksmith21 ago
Thank you for putting all of this out here Srayzie. Custodes vero.
Are_we_sure ago
Might as well post here.
My Interactions with her
The first I remember interacting with JEM777 was when I challenged her claims that Barrack Obama knew Bill Ayers when he was in Weather Underground and not two decades later when Ayers was no longer wanted by the police and the two of them worked on a way to improve public schools in Chicago. (At first I assumed she was a man.) She claimed that this photo of Obama and Ayers was from a Communist meeting in the 1970s.
It was so crazy a claim I made a thread about it (A thread which Vindicator deleted as off topic), you don't need to know any of the true story to know that the picture was not from the 1970's when Obama would have been a teenager and way before Seattle's Best Coffee whose logo is in the picture even existed as a company. If you actually spent two minutes doing a real investigation, you would know your claim didn't stand up.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2179065
Another time I called her out for falling for a photoshopped picture of Obama, a wildly obvious fake.
So she didn't like me poking holes in her false stories.
The Thread
Here's the thread that caused her and her friends to falsely accuse me.
I'll explain my posts and my thinking and let folks decide what they will. Someone mentioned threats don't seem my style and I'm pretty confident you can see my usual style in this thread.
Couple of key points, one thing I didn't understand was how paranoid JEM777 was. Perhaps she was facing genuine threats in her real life but I knew none of her back story. I just knew this was a person who made crazy, easily disprovable claims and wouldn't admit when she had the facts wrong. Her paranoia seems to really kick in as the thread went on.
Another thing to consider, despite what many here want to believe, these are all true.
Antonin Scalia died peacefully in his sleep.
The conspiracy theory that he was killed is nuts.
The conspiracy theory that he was killed AND John Podesta had him killed is nuts squared.
There is no vineyard at the ranch he was killed. (I personally debunked this.) It was a goofy piece of faked evidence that was faked to try to make it fit a particular email from John Podesta. An email that was truly about Bernie Sanders.
Jeffrey Dahmer has nothing to do with pizza-gate. He has nothing to do with Louis Bourgeois.
Her Arches series started before anyone heard of Dahmer. The Arch of Hysteria, therefore, cannot be based on a photo of one of his crimes. (I personally debunked this too.) I'm pretty sure none of his crime scene photos were released until years after his trial. Again this is fake linkage to try to tie pizza-gate to actual crimes.
The Clinton Hit List meme is bothering fake and hysterical and I never thought I would be chatting with folks who believe in it.
Now to the thread.
She makes a comment about a "Russian Bribery Scheme to sell the US Uranium to Russia-a national security threat."
I call BS and lay out the facts.
Since she is going to lose the argument on the facts, she changes tactics and makes it a out me. Claiming I work for Clinton and Soros. She then does something I consider hilarious. She acts like she has super inside knowledge
The news about Soros donating his money is from the mainstream media and his folks confirmed it on the record. It hilarious to pretend this is some big secret. So I replied with an extended joke pointing out her big secret was confirmed on the record and reported by the NY Times, Fox News and others. I replied in the voice of someone who works for Soros, I.E. a character
Note two things, one the heavy, heavy use of irony on my part and two this is not even aimed at JEM777. It's aimed at someone who works for George Soros.
And the punchline is fake evidence of the kooky Scalia fantasy.
That is not a vineyard, kids. It's fraudulent evidence.
So no threats made against JEM777 and she doesn't claim this was a threat. Instead she claims I'm for causing birth defects in babies. I'm not kidding. Knowing she had lost the argument she tried to move the goalposts and makes an exceptionally manipulative and dishonest argument. She linked to images of
And asked me
She implied that by correcting her facts I was in favor of babies born with deformities. At no point we're we discussing depleted uranium weapons at all. She was trying to manipulate the argument and have me make some emotional mistake that would make it look like I was all form deformed babies.
In short, she was being incredibly dishonest. So I called her on it. I created an even more manipulative, dishonest argument as an example of what she just tried to pull on me. I made my argument absurd to highlight her manipulative tactics. Note the use of italics indicating I'm not the one talking.
What's that you sell mattress? Well how do you defend this
Not only is this not a threat, is not even a joke threat. And it's not aimed at her. I was attacking her argument and her character and a dishonest trend in discourse on here in general.
Here's the full thread. At another point she claimed I deleted this thread to hide it. Of course, this is false.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2197944
Dressage2 ago
You are full of shit. Scalia was murdered. Now because I said itis truth, it is. You think if you say something therefore, it is truth. Take you bullshit, shilling ass roadshow down the road. We had you figured out long time ago. They would have made you a mod, but you don’t have good board side manners. You have always been too obvious. @carmencita @GothamGirl
Pizzalawyer ago
How can you say Scalia was murdered? You are making the same kind of unsupported claims that JEM777 made. Now if you said there is some circumstantial evidence that suggests Scalia may have been murdered, that would make for a more credible proposition.
Dressage2 ago
I merely said that to make a point. Some say he wasn’t and others say he was.AWS thinks if he says it, therefore truth. Bullshit I call. Research for yourselves to come to a truth you can live with. Then people can feel like they made an informed decision.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
People on this board have been discrediting pizzagate for the past 9 months, every single time that they post some reference to "Q drops." So to surmise that a sudden death of an investigator is suspicious and she was probably killed is really not a leap.
carmencita ago
Lol. For Real. Don’t hold back.