I’m writing this because I feel it needs to be said since people are making Jem out to be a martyr.
Now mods are attacked because that’s the disinfo that Jem pushed because @Vindicator banned her after many warnings. People have tried to put blame on him, people have said him and some of us other mods are evil. It’s going too far. I was just a regular user when she was banned. I worked my way up and got to know everyone. It’s nothing like what she describes. There isn’t some mod conspiracy against whistleblowers. I have private tweets of her trying to convince me of that as well. People can be hateful....
Here is one example. Read my reply underneath so you get an idea of where I’m coming from.
People have been urging me to share. I mean no disrespect. I believe Jem did did do a lot of good. But, you guys shouldn’t just go believe everything she’s shared. She exaggerated CONSTANTLY. She always needed to feel important. Plus, she had been working with George Webb all along I believe.
I’m sure some of you are going to be pissed off. I’m sorry. But, you can read thru this and make your own decision, at least I’m putting it out there for you guys to decide on your own.
She made the following tweets. Note how on the last one, it shows George Webb.
These were from Dec 15th. Notice the bottom one shows George Webb...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/07/ZumZSoXv_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/d5/2d/J8t6FMJp_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/6e/25/RTJCxGbk_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/e4/ae/WwGK7UUc_o.jpeg
She sent more pictures privately on Twitter...
https://images2.imgbox.com/f7/fc/B4LLAHVm_o.jpeg
This is where it’s time to pay closer attention. She sent me these private messages with pictures of James Alefantis, who was supposedly watching her, following her, etc.. As well as talking about a secret bathroom.
See the pictures here...
https://images2.imgbox.com/ef/2b/SdbRMpel_o.jpeg
Here is a personal video she sent me from inside Comet ping pong telling me about a secret room off the bathroom...
https://streamable.com/e7h14
She was always defensive of George Webb. ALWAYS. She didn’t like me until I went thru a period of liking him too. I think she knew him all along. I think she was working with George Webb. So on the same night after going to Comet ping pong, we had a conversation about George Webb. You can see how happy she was being with him. I wondered if they were a couple.
Here is that conversation...
Jem talking about George.
A couple of days later, George Webb made some tweets. It pissed a lot of people off. This is how it started... First, he was accused of child trafficking with James Alefantis. So he showed up at Comet ping pong WITHIN THE HOUR. He must have been pretty concerned to do that.
What made people become so angry was how he described James Alefantis.
He said “I met James Alefantis. He is playing a role as sex predator at CIA.
Good actor. Good CIA man”. He later deleted those tweets and wouldn’t answer people’s questions when they got angry. If it was so important for him to go within the hour, all he said about that was that he’s quite sure he didn’t know James?
Here are the tweets below...
George Webb Tweets
An angry tweet from a user
AFTER George made that tweet, I had a private twitter conversation with Jem. She made light of it and tries to convince me that when George Webb is speaking, he uses psychological warfare. If he was using psychological warfare, then why delete his tweets?
Her story was falling apart. What about the pictures she sent showing James Alefantis and his CIA friend staring her down and following her? What about the secret room off the bathroom that she sent me a video of? She didn’t know that George Webb would tweet what he did so she had to come up with excuses. That’s just a short conversation. But she ended it by saying she thinks James Alefantis is a Finder.
Here is that conversation...
Conversation with Jem about George’s tweet.
We had a long conversation, full of her exaggerating things as usual, on the Dec 20th. But then on December 22nd, I had more questions about why George would say that James Alefantis was a Finder and make light of it saying he’s a good CIA man.
The Dec 22nd conversation was her trying to make me feel sympathy for poor George. Her describing a different story about what happened. The whole story regarding the bathroom changed. She sent me the video the day she took it. How come the new story contradicts what she had said the first time?
George said he showed up within the hour because he was being accused of knowing James Alefantis. Why does Jem say she brought George to keep him them distracted while she looked around? If she found nothing to be wrong, why were the pictures that she sent me ones that made it look like she felt threatened? Plus the secret room off the bathroom. Why did that story change?
Why did everything she said suddenly change after George made that tweet? It ended with her acting irritated and telling me to withhold judgement. Then why did she willingly give me all the “fake” information a week before? Why did she start getting defensive when asked? She didn’t know he was going to make that tweet.
Here is that conversation...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/f1/1rWUwIiH_o.jpeg
I’m just sharing this because it’s related to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong. It’s just an example to show you that she was a limited hangout. She mixed some truth with some disinfo. Others have had experiences as well, but they can share if they choose to.
I would like to say before I’m killed off, that what I have on Jem isn’t anything incriminating. It’s just her usual exaggerated stories and experiences. The only reason I’m not sharing all of it is because it doesn’t apply to pizzagate and I don’t feel right about it.
Since I have been attacked repeatedly, I shared in the comments yesterday how Jem was connected to “Sarah”. A total stalker. It’s probably a guy or a group. @Jem777 and @Gothamgirl were both connected to Sarah.
That’s why GothamGirl got so angry and tried accusing me yesterday or miraculously planting child porn on her phone when I’ve never met her in my life. She said that once I joined pizzagate, people started disappearing. Oh and I threatened to kidnap her child supposedly too. That was just SOME of what she tried to pull yesterday. http://imgbox.com/hw7mLGwR
Anyway, here is me showing how Jem was connected to Sarah and how I was being stalked...
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589301
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589525
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Blacksmith21 ago
Thank you for putting all of this out here Srayzie. Custodes vero.
Are_we_sure ago
Might as well post here.
My Interactions with her
The first I remember interacting with JEM777 was when I challenged her claims that Barrack Obama knew Bill Ayers when he was in Weather Underground and not two decades later when Ayers was no longer wanted by the police and the two of them worked on a way to improve public schools in Chicago. (At first I assumed she was a man.) She claimed that this photo of Obama and Ayers was from a Communist meeting in the 1970s.
It was so crazy a claim I made a thread about it (A thread which Vindicator deleted as off topic), you don't need to know any of the true story to know that the picture was not from the 1970's when Obama would have been a teenager and way before Seattle's Best Coffee whose logo is in the picture even existed as a company. If you actually spent two minutes doing a real investigation, you would know your claim didn't stand up.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2179065
Another time I called her out for falling for a photoshopped picture of Obama, a wildly obvious fake.
So she didn't like me poking holes in her false stories.
The Thread
Here's the thread that caused her and her friends to falsely accuse me.
I'll explain my posts and my thinking and let folks decide what they will. Someone mentioned threats don't seem my style and I'm pretty confident you can see my usual style in this thread.
Couple of key points, one thing I didn't understand was how paranoid JEM777 was. Perhaps she was facing genuine threats in her real life but I knew none of her back story. I just knew this was a person who made crazy, easily disprovable claims and wouldn't admit when she had the facts wrong. Her paranoia seems to really kick in as the thread went on.
Another thing to consider, despite what many here want to believe, these are all true.
Antonin Scalia died peacefully in his sleep.
The conspiracy theory that he was killed is nuts.
The conspiracy theory that he was killed AND John Podesta had him killed is nuts squared.
There is no vineyard at the ranch he was killed. (I personally debunked this.) It was a goofy piece of faked evidence that was faked to try to make it fit a particular email from John Podesta. An email that was truly about Bernie Sanders.
Jeffrey Dahmer has nothing to do with pizza-gate. He has nothing to do with Louis Bourgeois.
Her Arches series started before anyone heard of Dahmer. The Arch of Hysteria, therefore, cannot be based on a photo of one of his crimes. (I personally debunked this too.) I'm pretty sure none of his crime scene photos were released until years after his trial. Again this is fake linkage to try to tie pizza-gate to actual crimes.
The Clinton Hit List meme is bothering fake and hysterical and I never thought I would be chatting with folks who believe in it.
Now to the thread.
She makes a comment about a "Russian Bribery Scheme to sell the US Uranium to Russia-a national security threat."
I call BS and lay out the facts.
Since she is going to lose the argument on the facts, she changes tactics and makes it a out me. Claiming I work for Clinton and Soros. She then does something I consider hilarious. She acts like she has super inside knowledge
The news about Soros donating his money is from the mainstream media and his folks confirmed it on the record. It hilarious to pretend this is some big secret. So I replied with an extended joke pointing out her big secret was confirmed on the record and reported by the NY Times, Fox News and others. I replied in the voice of someone who works for Soros, I.E. a character
Note two things, one the heavy, heavy use of irony on my part and two this is not even aimed at JEM777. It's aimed at someone who works for George Soros.
And the punchline is fake evidence of the kooky Scalia fantasy.
That is not a vineyard, kids. It's fraudulent evidence.
So no threats made against JEM777 and she doesn't claim this was a threat. Instead she claims I'm for causing birth defects in babies. I'm not kidding. Knowing she had lost the argument she tried to move the goalposts and makes an exceptionally manipulative and dishonest argument. She linked to images of
And asked me
She implied that by correcting her facts I was in favor of babies born with deformities. At no point we're we discussing depleted uranium weapons at all. She was trying to manipulate the argument and have me make some emotional mistake that would make it look like I was all form deformed babies.
In short, she was being incredibly dishonest. So I called her on it. I created an even more manipulative, dishonest argument as an example of what she just tried to pull on me. I made my argument absurd to highlight her manipulative tactics. Note the use of italics indicating I'm not the one talking.
What's that you sell mattress? Well how do you defend this
Not only is this not a threat, is not even a joke threat. And it's not aimed at her. I was attacking her argument and her character and a dishonest trend in discourse on here in general.
Here's the full thread. At another point she claimed I deleted this thread to hide it. Of course, this is false.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2197944
Dressage2 ago
You are full of shit. Scalia was murdered. Now because I said itis truth, it is. You think if you say something therefore, it is truth. Take you bullshit, shilling ass roadshow down the road. We had you figured out long time ago. They would have made you a mod, but you don’t have good board side manners. You have always been too obvious. @carmencita @GothamGirl
Pizzalawyer ago
How can you say Scalia was murdered? You are making the same kind of unsupported claims that JEM777 made. Now if you said there is some circumstantial evidence that suggests Scalia may have been murdered, that would make for a more credible proposition.
Dressage2 ago
I merely said that to make a point. Some say he wasn’t and others say he was.AWS thinks if he says it, therefore truth. Bullshit I call. Research for yourselves to come to a truth you can live with. Then people can feel like they made an informed decision.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
People on this board have been discrediting pizzagate for the past 9 months, every single time that they post some reference to "Q drops." So to surmise that a sudden death of an investigator is suspicious and she was probably killed is really not a leap.
carmencita ago
Lol. For Real. Don’t hold back.
darkknight111 ago
You were awfully silent on the day of her death. Combined with that image makes quite a significant number of people suspect YOU had a hand in her death.
If you're innocent, prove it...right.....now. We still want that hour by hour account of your whereabouts from 8/12/2018 to 8/14/2018.
Do you regret sending that image? That image is coming back to haunt you.
Only the guilty have something to hide. Your silence on the day of her death and general evasiveness when pressed only make you more suspiscious.
KYS you worthless piece of lefty shill shit.
Are_we_sure ago
Yeah, it's almost like I didn't learn of her death or find out I was being falsely accussed of being involved in it until a day or two later.
MolochHunter ago
i think you well know the contention is that you had no online presence that day because you 'had your hands full' IRL
Pizzalawyer ago
Ergo, pizzagators who are away from their computers on a certain day should be deemed suspects whenever one of their enemies dies under mysterious circumstances, even when there is no geographic proximity to the slain person or persons.
Come on guys, you all are caught up in some angry accusations that dont correlate with the series of well researched posts that you all typically make. Cant we all at least wait for the autopsy results that will hopefully be published in a few weeks?
MolochHunter ago
the context is that are we sure once issued an actual death threat to her
Are_we__sure ago
False.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13572800
Are_we__sure ago
Thanks, for attempting to introduce some common sense, but to call her my enemy goes way too far. This is just a message board. When I'm not on here, I don't think about this board very much at all. I don't follow conspiracy stuff on Reddit or Twitter or YouTube just here. The last time I thought about this woman was probably the last time MEJ777 posted in either the PG or GA subverses as I don't follow at others.
I certainly don't follow George Webb so I had no idea she had to moved DC and was staying full time at the same hotel Webb was working out off and had become "Task Force."
Folks on here have deluded themselves into believing I'm paid to be here on balf on unknown and nefarious forces. This is just another delusion.
Pizzalawyer ago
oh no, i wasn't accusing you of calling her an enemy. I was pointing out the illogic of equating absence from a message board as proof that people are out stalking or killing an enemy, or friend. Maybe the absentee was painting his house or taking a break from Pizzagate. Thats all
Are_we__sure ago
Oh OK. It gave me a chance to say my piece, so thanks for that.
Yeah. It's pretty illogical.
As Blacksmith recognized, if she was, in fact, murdered, George Webb would be a thousand times more likely a suspect than me. As he A. actually knew who the woman was. B. was one of the last folks to talk with her. C. Knew where she was (they were staying in the same hotel.)
Anyone one who actually knew her is a likelier suspect than me.
In terms of mean, motive and opportunity, I'm pretty far down on the list. But we are dealing with folks who claim the only way someone could experience a hemorrhage is if they are poisoned, so their logic and their medical knowledge are both pretty poor.
Are_we__sure ago
Yeah, it's pretty dumb all ways around. Every one of the details is going to end up being dumb too.
But I think he means the day it was announced on Voat because he commented something to that effect in one of the first threads.
MolochHunter ago
oh, we've had the change in shift again. the morning shift Are_we_sure clocked off and the evening shift Are_we__sure clocked in
yes, I'll store credence by anything you have to say 🙄😂
darkknight111 ago
Answer the fucking questions already.
Do you regret sending that corpse picture? That one image is coming back to haunt you.
We want your hour by hour whereabouts from 8/12/2018 to 8/14/2018.
All you need to do to prove your innocence is answer these simple questions.
Your constant evasion only makes you more suspiscious.
Only the guilty have something to hide. By not coming completely clean for several days, all you are doing is vindicating our suspiscion that YOU had a hand in this.
Nobody trusts you. Therefore you'd better fucking come clean RIGHT NOW!
auralsects ago
I'm a little offended you think he's a secret decoder ring professional assassin but not me. If it helps however, I spent those 48 hours inside your mother's cunt I left ample DNA evidence therein.
darkknight111 ago
KYS sand nigger.
The world will be a much happier place when you die.
We all wish you dead every day. We're all gonna celebrate when that happens.
Nobody loves you. Not even your truck whore mom and loser dad.
Shizy ago
I'm against suicide, but in your case it seems like the only reasonable option. You are a sick, filthy piece of flabby shit!