I’m writing this because I feel it needs to be said since people are making Jem out to be a martyr.
Now mods are attacked because that’s the disinfo that Jem pushed because @Vindicator banned her after many warnings. People have tried to put blame on him, people have said him and some of us other mods are evil. It’s going too far. I was just a regular user when she was banned. I worked my way up and got to know everyone. It’s nothing like what she describes. There isn’t some mod conspiracy against whistleblowers. I have private tweets of her trying to convince me of that as well. People can be hateful....
Here is one example. Read my reply underneath so you get an idea of where I’m coming from.
People have been urging me to share. I mean no disrespect. I believe Jem did did do a lot of good. But, you guys shouldn’t just go believe everything she’s shared. She exaggerated CONSTANTLY. She always needed to feel important. Plus, she had been working with George Webb all along I believe.
I’m sure some of you are going to be pissed off. I’m sorry. But, you can read thru this and make your own decision, at least I’m putting it out there for you guys to decide on your own.
She made the following tweets. Note how on the last one, it shows George Webb.
These were from Dec 15th. Notice the bottom one shows George Webb...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/07/ZumZSoXv_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/d5/2d/J8t6FMJp_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/6e/25/RTJCxGbk_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/e4/ae/WwGK7UUc_o.jpeg
She sent more pictures privately on Twitter...
https://images2.imgbox.com/f7/fc/B4LLAHVm_o.jpeg
This is where it’s time to pay closer attention. She sent me these private messages with pictures of James Alefantis, who was supposedly watching her, following her, etc.. As well as talking about a secret bathroom.
See the pictures here...
https://images2.imgbox.com/ef/2b/SdbRMpel_o.jpeg
Here is a personal video she sent me from inside Comet ping pong telling me about a secret room off the bathroom...
https://streamable.com/e7h14
She was always defensive of George Webb. ALWAYS. She didn’t like me until I went thru a period of liking him too. I think she knew him all along. I think she was working with George Webb. So on the same night after going to Comet ping pong, we had a conversation about George Webb. You can see how happy she was being with him. I wondered if they were a couple.
Here is that conversation...
Jem talking about George.
A couple of days later, George Webb made some tweets. It pissed a lot of people off. This is how it started... First, he was accused of child trafficking with James Alefantis. So he showed up at Comet ping pong WITHIN THE HOUR. He must have been pretty concerned to do that.
What made people become so angry was how he described James Alefantis.
He said “I met James Alefantis. He is playing a role as sex predator at CIA.
Good actor. Good CIA man”. He later deleted those tweets and wouldn’t answer people’s questions when they got angry. If it was so important for him to go within the hour, all he said about that was that he’s quite sure he didn’t know James?
Here are the tweets below...
George Webb Tweets
An angry tweet from a user
AFTER George made that tweet, I had a private twitter conversation with Jem. She made light of it and tries to convince me that when George Webb is speaking, he uses psychological warfare. If he was using psychological warfare, then why delete his tweets?
Her story was falling apart. What about the pictures she sent showing James Alefantis and his CIA friend staring her down and following her? What about the secret room off the bathroom that she sent me a video of? She didn’t know that George Webb would tweet what he did so she had to come up with excuses. That’s just a short conversation. But she ended it by saying she thinks James Alefantis is a Finder.
Here is that conversation...
Conversation with Jem about George’s tweet.
We had a long conversation, full of her exaggerating things as usual, on the Dec 20th. But then on December 22nd, I had more questions about why George would say that James Alefantis was a Finder and make light of it saying he’s a good CIA man.
The Dec 22nd conversation was her trying to make me feel sympathy for poor George. Her describing a different story about what happened. The whole story regarding the bathroom changed. She sent me the video the day she took it. How come the new story contradicts what she had said the first time?
George said he showed up within the hour because he was being accused of knowing James Alefantis. Why does Jem say she brought George to keep him them distracted while she looked around? If she found nothing to be wrong, why were the pictures that she sent me ones that made it look like she felt threatened? Plus the secret room off the bathroom. Why did that story change?
Why did everything she said suddenly change after George made that tweet? It ended with her acting irritated and telling me to withhold judgement. Then why did she willingly give me all the “fake” information a week before? Why did she start getting defensive when asked? She didn’t know he was going to make that tweet.
Here is that conversation...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/f1/1rWUwIiH_o.jpeg
I’m just sharing this because it’s related to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong. It’s just an example to show you that she was a limited hangout. She mixed some truth with some disinfo. Others have had experiences as well, but they can share if they choose to.
I would like to say before I’m killed off, that what I have on Jem isn’t anything incriminating. It’s just her usual exaggerated stories and experiences. The only reason I’m not sharing all of it is because it doesn’t apply to pizzagate and I don’t feel right about it.
Since I have been attacked repeatedly, I shared in the comments yesterday how Jem was connected to “Sarah”. A total stalker. It’s probably a guy or a group. @Jem777 and @Gothamgirl were both connected to Sarah.
That’s why GothamGirl got so angry and tried accusing me yesterday or miraculously planting child porn on her phone when I’ve never met her in my life. She said that once I joined pizzagate, people started disappearing. Oh and I threatened to kidnap her child supposedly too. That was just SOME of what she tried to pull yesterday. http://imgbox.com/hw7mLGwR
Anyway, here is me showing how Jem was connected to Sarah and how I was being stalked...
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589301
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589525
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gamepwn ago
I'm glad you came out with this Srayzie. I've been feeling very similar lately. At first I was outraged and felt upset but the more I see of her and George Webb the more suspicious I felt. Geroge Webb full on admitted he was Mossad. That secret room at Comet is also a major red flag I hate to say. How did she know about that? I mean it proves Comet Ping Pong has secret rooms but it's a little suspicious with not only knowing that, but Alefantis himself stalking her? Or playing along? Not to mention her being tagged in the bot army. Not a bot herself but wherever she went she had an army of upvotes or comments. Then I thought, including myself, are we making her a martyr? Just so many things don't add up. I felt just as upset about her death and created a topic for her and WIC, but things are not adding up and seem strange looking bad. I really hope we all haven't fallen for a psyop.
RIPJem ago
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMENT ON HERE - MUST READ:
Few realize what is truly at stake. Jenny is not the only one who was murdered for The Truth. Others have been tortured and murdered, and it involves the most powerful people in the world. There is a massive conspiracy afoot across all platforms to hide The Truth.
SRAYZIE AND THE CORRUPT MODS DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
Look at their coordinated attack on a Murder Victim who was a member of the community and knew The Truth. Who would do such an Evil thing?
First they tried claiming that Jem was not Jenny Moore. Then they tried claiming that Jenny is not dead. Now they are claiming that Jenny was not murdered. They are also claiming that she was not threatened or attacked. They are also claiming that she is a CIA disinformation agent. They are also claiming that she was not doxxed and that is is fine to dox her now since she is dead even though her family is scared and in danger. Now they are backtracking a little and making jokes while attacking and downvoting anyone who exposes them and knows The Truth.
Look at how they targeted, attacked and banned JEM before she left Voat, and again now after she has been murdered. She was threatened, doxxed, attacked in real life, and eventually murdered. Now the mods are attacking her and ganging up on anyone who would defend her. This is an absolute disgrace. SHAME.
Look at their coordinated attack and downvoting to hide comments from those who KNOW THE VICTIM IN REAL LIFE.
We know EVERYTHING. We have been watching EVERYTHING. We have been telling everyone THE TRUTH for a LONG TIME. We know who is Good and who is Evil.
We do not want to be here. This is very dangerous. We owe it to Jenny and others who died for The Truth.
VOAT IS NOT SAFE. SEVERAL MODS HERE ARE CORRUPT AND ABUSIVE, POSSIBLY WORSE. SOME HAVE MADE VERY THINLY VEILED DEATH THREATS AGAINST THOSE WHO KNOW THE TRUTH.
Jenny Moore was slandered and attacked both on Voat and in real life. She was beaten so badly she could barely talk or walk. Jem777 is Jenny Moore. We know this for certain. She was threatened by others here and in real life, and was eventually murdered.
JENNY IS NOT THE ONLY ONE MURDERED.
This is not a Game, and the Mods and others involved either need to apologize and ask for forgiveness or they will all be exposed for their role in this.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL OR A TEST. THIS IS REAL LIFE.
YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS THIS IS.
IF YOU DO AND STILL ACT THIS WAY, THEN YOU ARE PURE EVIL.
Here is one the comments from below they are trying to hide from everyone. Read all of them to know The Truth. The Truth is easy to find if you know what you are looking for.
srayzie ago
What do you think of this dishwasher?
Updated Voat Shill List.
Umm, I took the current S(H)i[ll] list and marked it. Is it pretty?
Screenshots...
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Who is connected to the above?
Gothamgirl ago
They're not shills, you just don't understand the message.
Why are you putting in so much time to judge other pizzagaters?
Should I share the pieced together messages where you intentionally lied, and played a trick on me to fuck with my feelings?
Now that I think of it Srayzie once you got here many pizzagaters have disappeared.
Since you are on my facebook, you are the only one who knows where my child goes to school. Was it you threatening my to kidnap my child and putting child porn in my phone? It was definitely someone from here.
Crensch ago
That's quite the leap of logic, associating the two directly. Care to explain?
What the fuck are you doing researching PG and having your family on any social media? Do you just not really care what happens to them?
Was it you that lied about those things happening?
See how easy that is? Back up your accusations.
Blaming others for you being stupid and doxxing yourself? Who would empathize with that?
Gothamgirl ago
Her bunch of trolls and alts probably ran them off, she is rude to alot of people.
It is my fault about social media thats a fact, been deleted.
No I have not lied about those things happening.
I didn't blame others for doxxing myself I asked her a question, and its a legitimate one, since she likes to play games with people, and has with me.
think- ago
You gone mad? Srayzie doesn't even have alts.
@Crensch @Vindicator @Shizy
Gothamgirl ago
You follow her on every social media network, how can you tell she doesn't have alts?
Do you have friends that claim to be in the illuminati too? Have you ever looked at her art with owls, black sun etc?
srayzie ago
I don’t have alts. That’s what Sara has. All my social media profiles are easy. SRAYZIE. Except this one...
Uh oh. There’s an alt. Rayzie!
Do I seem like the type that would make dark Illuminati type art?
https://imgoat.com/uploads/13d407166e/137511.jpeg
https://imgoat.com/uploads/13d407166e/137512.jpeg
That’s what Sarah does. Miss Baphomet art queen.
Keep trying. The more you post about me and proven wrong, the more you look like a fool.
@shizy @think- @Vindicator @Crensch @EricKaliberhall
Here is yet another lie about me.
Vindicator ago
Got it. @Gothamgirl, the Amalek shills that push the illuminati spam, which @Srayzie calls "Sarah" frequently make alts mocking moderators who ask them for evidence. They made "Vindictator" and several others mocking me. There were zillions of fake alts made to troll Falcon and abortionburger. Check the ban log to have your fill.
The fact you are claiming this is highly suspicious. Are you part of this Webb/Jem psyop as well?
Gothamgirl ago
No not at all part of any psyop. I didn't know you were mocked I would stick up for you. I have stood up for the mods before I felt like we were a family here. What I stated I feel is true. I am going to let the police figure it out, and I am not going to address her any further.
Vindicator ago
Well, thanks for that. I modded @srayzie after Falcon was demodded because she has been a trusted part of this "fam" for a long time. The Rayzie twitter is not her. They made a fake Vindicator twitter too -- took me 10 tries reporting it before it got taken down.
srayzie ago
Maybe she’s talking about this...
https://twitter.com/Rayzie6
My fav on Twitter InTheMatrxxx blocked me so I made that to follow him. I made one when Corsi blocked me too but I couldn’t remember what it was. I only used a couple for those people.
If it was an “alt”, I wouldn’t have used an obvious username like Rayzie, which I use on my art one. I even ask InTheMatrixxx to unblock me and gave him Srayzie somhe would know who I was.
She’s just a trouble maker.
Gothamgirl ago
I am so confused at this point, if I am wrong then I am deeply sorry. I will keep to myself and let the police figure it out, there is alot more going on then what has been said here.
srayzie ago
Whe police figure out what? What are you even talking about? Don’t forget to let the police know about that child porn on your phone.
srayzie ago
No, @Gothamgirl has been attacking me since yesterday. She confirmed my suspicions that she is a shill.
She’s implying that I planted child porn on her phone, and that I know where her kid goes to school and threatened her.
She’s purposely trying to slander me. Her, Jem, and FlynnLives are all/were connected to Sarah
think- ago
You made the claim that she has alts, you prove it.
Of course I haven't friends that claim to be 'Illuminati'. rolls eyes
And I don't even know what you are talking about.
Shizy ago
I bought a water bottle for my kid that has an owl on it. I must be a satanist or something.
think- ago
Ha! @Shizy, I always had my suspicions about you.... ;-)
For all others: THIS WAS A JOKE.
Shizy ago
Sad we have to make sure to clarify the jokes around here!
But I swear, I get really sick of so many symbols being stolen by sick evil assholes. I can't buy anything with a butterfly, rainbow, kitten, or pizza on it for my kids because these symbols have been tainted!
think- ago
Yep, same here...spirals and butterflies everywhere.
Crensch ago
What trolls and alts are these? I've seen no evidence that she has a crew, or even multiple usernames thus far. Would you mind supporting your implied claim that they do, indeed, exist?
Crensch ago
She's rude to the usernames that attack her and act like shills. I've not seen her attack someone without reason yet.
Then bringing it up is also your fault. YOUR fault. No one else's, and your mentioning them does nothing but incriminate YOU.
Yet you attempt to use them as a bludgeon.
You're here defending the indefensible. So you're either directly involved with a cunt that lied continually and seems to be LINKED to alefantis in a friendly way, OR you're paid to be here and are just now showing your true colours, OR you're an overemotional bimbo that needs to set her vagina aside and look at the facts.
I'll let you choose which of the above most closely describes you.
I still can't believe you'd bring up something that is absolutely your own fault as an accusation towards another user here. How stupid are you?
@srayzie @think- @Vindicator
Gothamgirl ago
I am not commenting any further on this. I have said what needed to be said.
Crensch ago
Then I suggest you find a place like rEddit, where lies and falsehoods will be treated with kid gloves.
I gave you a choice on which of the above you are, and you decided not to choose one; I'll choose for you. You're directly involved with a cunt that is friendly to Alefantis, showing your true $hill colours, and you need to set your whore vagina aside and start supporting your position with more than your PMS.
That's what a shill would say.
You're too stupid to help; not that you would, anyway, since it's obvious you're here to do the opposite. Nobody needs a retard on their research team - I'm surprised the other side even hired you.
I didn't ask about this, but you bringing it up is a scathing indictment of your mental stability and sexual desperation.
@srayzie @shizy @think-
srayzie ago
She says she’s not commenting any further, yet she does over and over again.
srayzie ago
I have all kinds of screenshots of you because you’re connected to FlynnLives and Sarah. The other one connected to Sarah was Jem.
You already said I was deleting the screenshots you had of me. The whole fricken site went down. I didn’t delete shit.
I will help you. In that little screenshot where I said, don’t tell him I’m sharing with you, is when you said you liked someone. It’s your choice if you want to say who that someone is. So I talked to him to see if he liked you too and that’s what I shared with you. You were so excited.
https://images2.imgbox.com/0c/af/ijYzsJP8_o.jpeg
You are trying to be shady like I’m telling lies when the whole time you were going on and on about this guy.
Now you think I pay attention to where your kid goes to school? If you put that on your Facebook publicly, especially knowing about pizzagate, then that’s on you.
Now you are getting absolutely ridiculous. So I made threats against your son and planted child porn on your phone?
I think you’ve confirmed you’re a shill now. Some of us have wondered. I’m completely convinced.
@Think- @Vindicator @Crensch @Shizy
I have evidence of this too if needed.
Gothamgirl ago
Srayzie why does the face look like that? And why is picture missing in some of those responses. Srayzie I have a letter from him that states he has no fucking idea who I am.
Lets make this clear, the first time he saw a judge he stated he didn't fire a weapon, he is pleading not guilty, and he has hired an attorney.
So are you throwing another pizzagater under the bus right now because you believe what? What the msm told you?
srayzie ago
I have conversations of you talking all about FlynnLives. You want to quit now? Awwww ok. I would too if I were you. You and Sarah can both leave me the fuck alone. RIPJem is Sarah.
I could be a fool like you and say it sure is strange how 2 people you were connected with had some tragedy occur. Jem died and FlynnLives was shot. Should I say you had something to do with it? That’s the kind of shit you pull.
srayzie ago
Because I had posted earlier to hide his identity so I didn’t dox him
Pizzalawyer ago
She is dead, hang in there for a month or so, you will be vindicated. See my comments at bottom of pile
Dressage2 ago
Holy shit! Be careful. Never trust this place. I haven’t. If you do research and pull out the key facts, they put you on list to get rid of you. Most of the great researchers were banned or quit out of frustration. That is what they want. @carmencita
srayzie ago
You’re seriously believing someone who says I planted child porn on her phone? You all need to learn how to spot fakes. This is ridiculous.
RIPJem ago
We repeat:
JEM IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS MURDERED.
JEM IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS THREATENED.
MODS AND OTHER EVIL USERS HAVE MADE OPEN DEATH THREATS AND CREATE ACCOUNTS TO TRY AND BEFRIEND YOU IN ORDER TO DOX AND "MEET IN PERSON".
SRAYZIE AND OTHER MODS HAVE EVIL INTENTIONS. THEY HAVE SHOWN THEIR TRUE COLORS.
THIS IS BASED ON DIRECT EXPERIENCE BY MULTIPLE PEOPLE AND THOROUGH INVESTIGATIONS OVER MULTIPLE YEARS.
GOOD PEOPLE WERE MURDERED FOR KNOWING AND SHARING THE TRUTH, INCLUDING JENNY AND OTHERS, AND VOAT IS ABSOLUTELY COMPROMISED. BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL.
THEY HAVE HACKED ACCOUNTS INTERNALLY AND EXPOSED USERS' PERSONAL INFORMATION.
THEY WILL DELETE AND SLIDE POSTS, HACK ACCOUNTS, OR BAN THOSE WHO KNOW TOO MUCH.
ONCE YOU ARE MURDERED THEY WILL CONTINUE TO ATTACK, SLANDER AND LIE TO COVER IT UP.
WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE MORE DEATH THREATS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE MURDER ATTEMPTS ON INNOCENT LIVES. MULTIPLE PEOPLE WERE MURDERED, AND OTHERS WERE ATTACKED AND ASSAULTED.
SRAYZIE AND OTHERS LIE ABOUT USERS, LAUNCH FALSE ACCUSATIONS, AND ROUND UP ALL OF THEIR COHORTS TO GANG ATTACK ANYONE CLOSE TO THE TRUTH. THEY USE A VARIETY OF TACTICS.
THEY OPENLY DISCUSS STRATEGIES TO DOX, TRACK IP ADDRESSES AND TARGET CERTAIN USERS.
SELECT USERS HAVE BEEN TARGETED BY MODS AND OTHER EVIL USERS FOR LIFE DISRUPTION AND MURDER.
JEM IS JENNY AND JENNY WAS MURDERED FOR KNOWING THE TRUTH.
THEY ARE HIDING THE TRUTH FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE MANIPULATING THE FORUMS AND TARGETING PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE.
THIS IS NOT A GAME.
IT IS EASY TO SEE THE TRUTH IF YOU HAVE PAID ATTENTION.
IF YOU KNOW RULES FOR RADICALS, YOU CAN SEE THE TRICKS THEY PLAY.
THEY WILL STOP AT NOTHING UNTIL THOSE WHO KNOW THE TRUTH ARE DEAD, AND THEN THEY WILL CONTINUE TO STOMP ON YOUR GRAVE.
JEM IS NOT THE ONLY USER WHO LEFT, AND JEM IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS MURDERED.
think- ago
LOL. You must be really desperate when you spread all these lies.
It is not even possible to track IP addresses when you're a mod or an O of a Voat subverse, even if people wanted to do that.
And I have stated in public that doxxing is not allowed here, not even doxxing of shills like Are_We_Sure, and will lead to an immediate ban of the users who try it.
Since I know that nothing what you're saying about us mods is true, I have to conclude that nothing else you say is true.
I feel sorry for you, but thank you for the laughs! .
carmencita ago
TY. NONE of this surprised me. Lying yes maybe.
srayzie ago
Lying? GothamGirl is trying to say that I planted child porn on her phone. You’re gonna believe someone like that?
I have screenshots of all her lies.
carmencita ago
Please don’t put me in the middle That’s between you and her.
srayzie ago
Other people are pinging you so I defended myself.
carmencita ago
Fine.
think- ago
May I ask you what exactly makes you so distrustful and believe all the crap that people write about the mods = myself, since I am a member of the mod team?
Nobody in the mod team would 'dance' when you should decide to leave v/pizzagate, Carm. I know that everyone in the mod team appreciates your work here.
And I must say that, after modding for seven months, I really feel disappointed to read such things written by you. Vin and I have worked our a**es off after MF had to leave, to make this a more comfortable place for users. I and Vin suggested to introduce the 'Edit' flair, so that posts wouldn't be pulled instantly any more. I am trying to help people, I try to be fair and neutral.
Before I became a mod, I was one of the users who pushed for including organ trafficking to the topics accepted in the rules. I have lobbied to accept posts about child marriages. Whereas MF often deleted posts about child abuse in other countries, we let them stay now.
carmencita ago
I realize you have been good but I am sorry to say that the take down of one of our own Was a Witch Hunt. All that jumped on Jem really upset me. Sorry if that hurt some but it hurt me too.
Shizy ago
Hi Carmencita, it bothered me to see you get upset about this thread. You have the biggest heart here and you don't need to have another thing to be upset about. I respect your opinion and your feelings. As for me, I just started questioning what we have been told about JEMs death. The info is coming from very limited sources and despite my efforts I haven't found anything but George Webb or true pundit reporting on her death. It has caused me to question everything about what they have said. It's not about questioning her, it's questioning them since they seem to be able to control the story at this point. I found some comments on 8chan that she allegedly posted about cutting ties with GW and having a falling out with him on August 7th. I'm trying to dig more into that, but I'm thinking the trolls who have come out of the woodwork are pretending to defend Jem and cause division, but really are here to defend George Webb. That doesn't sit well with me and something doesn't feel right about all of this.
srayzie ago
So my post showing proof of disinfo was a witch hunt? Now I’m lying? I don’t expect this out of you either Carmencita
carmencita ago
I did not call you a liar. You just went too far and I am entitled to my opinion. I am not going to get into a fight. That’s not me.
think- ago
The reason why I have posted critical comments is that
1) I do not trust anything George Webb or TruePundit say. Not a single word.
As long as I don't see any proof for Jenny's death, I will as be as sceptical as I usually am. If it should turn out that she is really dead, I would be very sorry.
And I do not trust anyone who decided to work closely with Webb, who imo most certainly is affiliated with an alphabet agency. And who obviously holds the opinion that Pizzagate isn't a worthwhile investigation. Why would she team up with a guy like this in the first place?
The same applies to her 'ex'-FBI friend Gritz, who worked abroad in missions together with military intelligence people. I think it was @new4now who looked into her, and found some shady stuff re the London Center she is connected to.
2) I have never trusted Jem777 - I joined the board as a lurker in late December 2016, and signed up in autumn 2017, about a month before Jem got banned. I read almost everything she posted. I am sorry to say that, but I thought the things she posted were always a mixture of likely accurate and likely false info, combined with an exaggerated self-confidence. I also didn't trust her information about the witness protection programme.
3) I know some more background details from srayzie, more than she posted here, which confirmed my view.
That said, I understand that you must be sad that you lost a friend and a fellow pizzagater. And even that you are cross with people that don't share your opinion about Jem, and that you don't understand why someone would have a totally different view.. But this is my personal view as a fellow user.
As a mod, I have stickied the thread, like we have stickied the other post who says exactly the opposite.
We can have only three stickied posts at a time. So when I wanted to sticky this post yesterday, I let the other post by @dreamdigital about Jem stay, and took the Ketron Island research post down for the time being, so that people would be able to read two different opinions.
seekingpeace ago
Well, the irony is that most of GW's subscribers found him here on Voat/pizzagate. He made one post (sorry don't have a link anymore) where he talked a lot about Epstein and Lolita Island, writing as if he had first hand knowledge.
His videos were heavily promoted and upvoated by an army of posters. It was almost as if he lured pizzagaters away like the Pied Piper. Look over here! Then when he had people's attention, he changed his focus to spying and arms dealing etc.
think- ago
Yep, exactly.
new4now ago
also Robyn was a Juvenile probation Officer in Camden NJ before signing up with FBI
that doesn't set well with me either
new4now ago
hoping today I can look more into it
The guy with Webb, when he announced Jems death, McDuff, well his Father needs looking into and am hoping to have the time to do so today
thought this vid was interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeYYA_eRXK0
Hate to say it, but sometimes Jem gets lost in my research because I keep hitting ties to intelligence
and as I have said Webb has always rubbed me the wrong way, so here I am trying to go through his vids and twits
trying to stay neutral in my research, but intelligence and people we know are part of that which we are fighting keep coming up
I've said it before, What did Jem get herself involved in?
I didn't have as much personal contact with her as others have, I did read a lot of her posts and commented on them
so personally, I have to start from scratch, as with all the other people involved with her
think- ago
Well, that's actually a good thing, so nobody can claim you have been prejudiced.
new4now ago
all these people who are putting Jem/ Jenny news out, all have some kind of connection to intelligence, in links
Webbs involvement is rumor so far, haven't found anything on that
put am remembering a Webb that was murdered? for speaking out
and who is Webb's brother?
I wish I would have paid more attention back in those days
think- ago
Yep. And that's the problem here.
carmencita ago
Ok we can agree to disagree:)
think- ago
Yep! ;-)
The_Savant ago
Carmen, if you choose to distrust the mods, that is perfectly acceptable in my eyes and probably a smart move. However, I would also recommend that you don't trust RIPJem. They don't represent Jem in any way. I smell a rat.
think- ago
Oh thank you, @The_Savant.
The_Savant ago
Well... you can't force people to trust you in the same way you can't force people to respect you. As long as any of us are uncertain what goes on in all of the mods real lives, there is always going to be some room for doubt - if there isn't, then we are merely sheep. In order to be able to think, I must be able to weigh up both sides of the argument and I think others should be doing the same.
Whilst the mod team has earned my respect and I notice most shills adopting anti-mod tactics, I have to understand that I won't be able to make everyone instantly come to the same realisation. Take no offense.
carmencita ago
Jem told me a long time ago she trusted him/her.
RIPJem ago
You have always known The Truth.
The Truth has been shared on many platforms.
The Truth is Unmistakable, and easy to find if you are looking.
They cannot dispute The Truth, so they seek to hide and destroy The Truth from others.
Jenny is a Real Person who was stalked, threatened and murdered for knowing The Truth.
The Truth has been here since the very beginning. We knew Jenny in real life. We Trust her.
The Only Way to stop their Agenda is by sharing The Truth.
Do not let them lie to you and trick you. We know that you can be Trusted also. You never swayed.
Look at how they are trying to manipulate you now and cater to you because they know that you are one of the very few Honest and Trustworthy people here. They are trying to turn you against what you know to be The Truth.
We would never lie to you. We would never trick you. You have seen the games they play.
We do not play games. We do not want to be here. Many more lives are in extreme danger. We owe it to you and Jenny and others to share The Truth. This is not about one person. This is about All People.
George Sweigart is not Trustworthy. Q is not Trustworthy. Donald Trust is not Trustworthy.
Jenny has a bit more trust in them, but understood why others did not. She had to trust them to a degree, and her and George disagreed about both Q and Trump often. Jenny knew that The Truth however was unmistakable and agreed 100%.
Q, George and others involved all give you part Truth, but none of them will reveal The Truth. They all know The Truth that you know.
We are not alone, and Jenny is not the only one who was murdered for The Truth.
There are many sides being played. They have Unlimited Resources, yet they cannot dispute The Truth that Jenny and others know.
That is why she is no longer here. She is a Brave and Good Soul and will never be forgotten.
Only Evil would slander and attack her before and after she is murdered.
Only Evil would hide The Truth from the world to keep the people from having a choice.
Thank you for being a Good Person and staying True against all odds.
A wise person can see through their lies, their tricks and their games.
This is not a game, and everything is at stake.
You know The Truth. Trust in Jesus Christ.
carmencita ago
I agree. I believe you. I also trust in Jesus Christ. Prayers for you and those like you. I think Jenny trusted GW for short time and then found she was wrong. Yes I believe she was a good person with a good heart 💕
The_Savant ago
This is a mistake, carmen. If you're pro RIPJem, you're anti-mod, anti Julian Assange and anti Seth Rich. More than that, if you're pro RIPJem, you're anti-Jem777.
carmencita ago
Stop harassing me.
The_Savant ago
Don't try and guilt me, carmen. I've sent you, what, seven messages? You're praising the most obvious shill on Voat, it doesn't look good.
carmencita ago
You have never sent me a message that I can remember. Now you decide who is a shill and I must comply or you spread this about me. Very unfair. We have differences of opinion and you say I am a shill supporter. Like I said, things have changed around here since this post. I try to stay friendly with most on here, but being called a shill supporter is hard to take and extremely unfair.
The_Savant ago
Jem also trusted GW and it seems to have backfired.
carmencita ago
She admitted she judged him wrong. People need to do their homework before judging.
The_Savant ago
Oh, well I wouldn't have known that. She stopped responding to me after a while. Still, it shows she can put her trust in the wrong people.
carmencita ago
No he is not. She met with him. You would know that if you knew her. If you didn’t know her you should not be judging her.
The_Savant ago
Carmen, RIPJem is anti-Trump, anti Julian Assange, anti Seth Rich and anti-Q. Jem was none of these things.
If you feel you need proof of these, I can send you screenshots of my DMs with Jem. I know a lot more about her than you think I do.
RIPJem ago
We only care about The Truth, and about the lives and souls of All People.
We have no motive but to stop the Evil Agenda and share The Truth. We do not make videos. We do not sell shirts. We do not want money. We do not want votes or likes. Evil takes many forms. The Truth is always Honest.
We will support Any or All who reveal The Truth, and everyone is capable of Change. Q is the closest of all, yet cannot be fully Trusted and has posted disinformation along with partial Truth. We hope that Q and Trump will eventually be pressured to reveal The Truth, but there are many question marks that remain, and neither Q nor Trump have delivered on their promises. Seth Rich's family has suspicious ties, and it is unclear if Seth Rich was a True Patriot. We do not know Seth Rich, but we do know the Evil in Omaha, Nebraska, the PANDA and DNC connections, and we know that Seth Rich does not believe in Jesus Christ.
Jenny knew The Truth. Jenny had reservations about Wikileaks, Seth Rich, Q and Donald Trump. We know this from speaking with her DIRECTLY IN PERSON. She also had reservations about George Sweigart, but grew Trust in him over time while remaining guarded. They disagreed often, and especially regarding Religion, Satanic Abuse, Secret Societies, and the Agenda.
Wikileaks knows The Truth. Q knows The Truth. Trump knows The Truth. George Sweigart knows The Truth. None have proven Trustworthy or fully revealed The Truth.
Jenny was Trustworthy. Carmencita is Trustworthy. There are Others. They know who they are. There are many bad actors here, and many deceivers.
There are many question marks about Trump, Assange, Seth Rich, George Sweigart, and Q.
How many of them Truly believe in Jesus Christ? Q and Trump claim to, yet they have not been fully honest with The People. There are tricks and questions abound.
There are no tricks or questions about The Truth.
The Truth is Unmistakable. The Truth is undeniable. The Truth never lies.
The Truth is Right in front of Everyone.
The_Savant ago
Fuck off, George. I'm the one who cares about the truth.
carmencita ago
Ok.