I’m writing this because I feel it needs to be said since people are making Jem out to be a martyr.
Now mods are attacked because that’s the disinfo that Jem pushed because @Vindicator banned her after many warnings. People have tried to put blame on him, people have said him and some of us other mods are evil. It’s going too far. I was just a regular user when she was banned. I worked my way up and got to know everyone. It’s nothing like what she describes. There isn’t some mod conspiracy against whistleblowers. I have private tweets of her trying to convince me of that as well. People can be hateful....
Here is one example. Read my reply underneath so you get an idea of where I’m coming from.
People have been urging me to share. I mean no disrespect. I believe Jem did did do a lot of good. But, you guys shouldn’t just go believe everything she’s shared. She exaggerated CONSTANTLY. She always needed to feel important. Plus, she had been working with George Webb all along I believe.
I’m sure some of you are going to be pissed off. I’m sorry. But, you can read thru this and make your own decision, at least I’m putting it out there for you guys to decide on your own.
She made the following tweets. Note how on the last one, it shows George Webb.
These were from Dec 15th. Notice the bottom one shows George Webb...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/07/ZumZSoXv_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/d5/2d/J8t6FMJp_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/6e/25/RTJCxGbk_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/e4/ae/WwGK7UUc_o.jpeg
She sent more pictures privately on Twitter...
https://images2.imgbox.com/f7/fc/B4LLAHVm_o.jpeg
This is where it’s time to pay closer attention. She sent me these private messages with pictures of James Alefantis, who was supposedly watching her, following her, etc.. As well as talking about a secret bathroom.
See the pictures here...
https://images2.imgbox.com/ef/2b/SdbRMpel_o.jpeg
Here is a personal video she sent me from inside Comet ping pong telling me about a secret room off the bathroom...
https://streamable.com/e7h14
She was always defensive of George Webb. ALWAYS. She didn’t like me until I went thru a period of liking him too. I think she knew him all along. I think she was working with George Webb. So on the same night after going to Comet ping pong, we had a conversation about George Webb. You can see how happy she was being with him. I wondered if they were a couple.
Here is that conversation...
Jem talking about George.
A couple of days later, George Webb made some tweets. It pissed a lot of people off. This is how it started... First, he was accused of child trafficking with James Alefantis. So he showed up at Comet ping pong WITHIN THE HOUR. He must have been pretty concerned to do that.
What made people become so angry was how he described James Alefantis.
He said “I met James Alefantis. He is playing a role as sex predator at CIA.
Good actor. Good CIA man”. He later deleted those tweets and wouldn’t answer people’s questions when they got angry. If it was so important for him to go within the hour, all he said about that was that he’s quite sure he didn’t know James?
Here are the tweets below...
George Webb Tweets
An angry tweet from a user
AFTER George made that tweet, I had a private twitter conversation with Jem. She made light of it and tries to convince me that when George Webb is speaking, he uses psychological warfare. If he was using psychological warfare, then why delete his tweets?
Her story was falling apart. What about the pictures she sent showing James Alefantis and his CIA friend staring her down and following her? What about the secret room off the bathroom that she sent me a video of? She didn’t know that George Webb would tweet what he did so she had to come up with excuses. That’s just a short conversation. But she ended it by saying she thinks James Alefantis is a Finder.
Here is that conversation...
Conversation with Jem about George’s tweet.
We had a long conversation, full of her exaggerating things as usual, on the Dec 20th. But then on December 22nd, I had more questions about why George would say that James Alefantis was a Finder and make light of it saying he’s a good CIA man.
The Dec 22nd conversation was her trying to make me feel sympathy for poor George. Her describing a different story about what happened. The whole story regarding the bathroom changed. She sent me the video the day she took it. How come the new story contradicts what she had said the first time?
George said he showed up within the hour because he was being accused of knowing James Alefantis. Why does Jem say she brought George to keep him them distracted while she looked around? If she found nothing to be wrong, why were the pictures that she sent me ones that made it look like she felt threatened? Plus the secret room off the bathroom. Why did that story change?
Why did everything she said suddenly change after George made that tweet? It ended with her acting irritated and telling me to withhold judgement. Then why did she willingly give me all the “fake” information a week before? Why did she start getting defensive when asked? She didn’t know he was going to make that tweet.
Here is that conversation...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/f1/1rWUwIiH_o.jpeg
I’m just sharing this because it’s related to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong. It’s just an example to show you that she was a limited hangout. She mixed some truth with some disinfo. Others have had experiences as well, but they can share if they choose to.
I would like to say before I’m killed off, that what I have on Jem isn’t anything incriminating. It’s just her usual exaggerated stories and experiences. The only reason I’m not sharing all of it is because it doesn’t apply to pizzagate and I don’t feel right about it.
Since I have been attacked repeatedly, I shared in the comments yesterday how Jem was connected to “Sarah”. A total stalker. It’s probably a guy or a group. @Jem777 and @Gothamgirl were both connected to Sarah.
That’s why GothamGirl got so angry and tried accusing me yesterday or miraculously planting child porn on her phone when I’ve never met her in my life. She said that once I joined pizzagate, people started disappearing. Oh and I threatened to kidnap her child supposedly too. That was just SOME of what she tried to pull yesterday. http://imgbox.com/hw7mLGwR
Anyway, here is me showing how Jem was connected to Sarah and how I was being stalked...
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589301
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589525
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gamepwn ago
I'm glad you came out with this Srayzie. I've been feeling very similar lately. At first I was outraged and felt upset but the more I see of her and George Webb the more suspicious I felt. Geroge Webb full on admitted he was Mossad. That secret room at Comet is also a major red flag I hate to say. How did she know about that? I mean it proves Comet Ping Pong has secret rooms but it's a little suspicious with not only knowing that, but Alefantis himself stalking her? Or playing along? Not to mention her being tagged in the bot army. Not a bot herself but wherever she went she had an army of upvotes or comments. Then I thought, including myself, are we making her a martyr? Just so many things don't add up. I felt just as upset about her death and created a topic for her and WIC, but things are not adding up and seem strange looking bad. I really hope we all haven't fallen for a psyop.
RIPJem ago
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMENT ON HERE - MUST READ:
Few realize what is truly at stake. Jenny is not the only one who was murdered for The Truth. Others have been tortured and murdered, and it involves the most powerful people in the world. There is a massive conspiracy afoot across all platforms to hide The Truth.
SRAYZIE AND THE CORRUPT MODS DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
Look at their coordinated attack on a Murder Victim who was a member of the community and knew The Truth. Who would do such an Evil thing?
First they tried claiming that Jem was not Jenny Moore. Then they tried claiming that Jenny is not dead. Now they are claiming that Jenny was not murdered. They are also claiming that she was not threatened or attacked. They are also claiming that she is a CIA disinformation agent. They are also claiming that she was not doxxed and that is is fine to dox her now since she is dead even though her family is scared and in danger. Now they are backtracking a little and making jokes while attacking and downvoting anyone who exposes them and knows The Truth.
Look at how they targeted, attacked and banned JEM before she left Voat, and again now after she has been murdered. She was threatened, doxxed, attacked in real life, and eventually murdered. Now the mods are attacking her and ganging up on anyone who would defend her. This is an absolute disgrace. SHAME.
Look at their coordinated attack and downvoting to hide comments from those who KNOW THE VICTIM IN REAL LIFE.
We know EVERYTHING. We have been watching EVERYTHING. We have been telling everyone THE TRUTH for a LONG TIME. We know who is Good and who is Evil.
We do not want to be here. This is very dangerous. We owe it to Jenny and others who died for The Truth.
VOAT IS NOT SAFE. SEVERAL MODS HERE ARE CORRUPT AND ABUSIVE, POSSIBLY WORSE. SOME HAVE MADE VERY THINLY VEILED DEATH THREATS AGAINST THOSE WHO KNOW THE TRUTH.
Jenny Moore was slandered and attacked both on Voat and in real life. She was beaten so badly she could barely talk or walk. Jem777 is Jenny Moore. We know this for certain. She was threatened by others here and in real life, and was eventually murdered.
JENNY IS NOT THE ONLY ONE MURDERED.
This is not a Game, and the Mods and others involved either need to apologize and ask for forgiveness or they will all be exposed for their role in this.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL OR A TEST. THIS IS REAL LIFE.
YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS THIS IS.
IF YOU DO AND STILL ACT THIS WAY, THEN YOU ARE PURE EVIL.
Here is one the comments from below they are trying to hide from everyone. Read all of them to know The Truth. The Truth is easy to find if you know what you are looking for.
srayzie ago
What do you think of this dishwasher?
Updated Voat Shill List.
Umm, I took the current S(H)i[ll] list and marked it. Is it pretty?
Screenshots...
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Who is connected to the above?
Gothamgirl ago
They're not shills, you just don't understand the message.
Why are you putting in so much time to judge other pizzagaters?
Should I share the pieced together messages where you intentionally lied, and played a trick on me to fuck with my feelings?
Now that I think of it Srayzie once you got here many pizzagaters have disappeared.
Since you are on my facebook, you are the only one who knows where my child goes to school. Was it you threatening my to kidnap my child and putting child porn in my phone? It was definitely someone from here.
Dressage2 ago
Holy shit! Be careful. Never trust this place. I haven’t. If you do research and pull out the key facts, they put you on list to get rid of you. Most of the great researchers were banned or quit out of frustration. That is what they want. @carmencita
carmencita ago
TY. NONE of this surprised me. Lying yes maybe.
think- ago
May I ask you what exactly makes you so distrustful and believe all the crap that people write about the mods = myself, since I am a member of the mod team?
Nobody in the mod team would 'dance' when you should decide to leave v/pizzagate, Carm. I know that everyone in the mod team appreciates your work here.
And I must say that, after modding for seven months, I really feel disappointed to read such things written by you. Vin and I have worked our a**es off after MF had to leave, to make this a more comfortable place for users. I and Vin suggested to introduce the 'Edit' flair, so that posts wouldn't be pulled instantly any more. I am trying to help people, I try to be fair and neutral.
Before I became a mod, I was one of the users who pushed for including organ trafficking to the topics accepted in the rules. I have lobbied to accept posts about child marriages. Whereas MF often deleted posts about child abuse in other countries, we let them stay now.
carmencita ago
I realize you have been good but I am sorry to say that the take down of one of our own Was a Witch Hunt. All that jumped on Jem really upset me. Sorry if that hurt some but it hurt me too.
Shizy ago
Hi Carmencita, it bothered me to see you get upset about this thread. You have the biggest heart here and you don't need to have another thing to be upset about. I respect your opinion and your feelings. As for me, I just started questioning what we have been told about JEMs death. The info is coming from very limited sources and despite my efforts I haven't found anything but George Webb or true pundit reporting on her death. It has caused me to question everything about what they have said. It's not about questioning her, it's questioning them since they seem to be able to control the story at this point. I found some comments on 8chan that she allegedly posted about cutting ties with GW and having a falling out with him on August 7th. I'm trying to dig more into that, but I'm thinking the trolls who have come out of the woodwork are pretending to defend Jem and cause division, but really are here to defend George Webb. That doesn't sit well with me and something doesn't feel right about all of this.
srayzie ago
So my post showing proof of disinfo was a witch hunt? Now I’m lying? I don’t expect this out of you either Carmencita
carmencita ago
I did not call you a liar. You just went too far and I am entitled to my opinion. I am not going to get into a fight. That’s not me.
think- ago
The reason why I have posted critical comments is that
1) I do not trust anything George Webb or TruePundit say. Not a single word.
As long as I don't see any proof for Jenny's death, I will as be as sceptical as I usually am. If it should turn out that she is really dead, I would be very sorry.
And I do not trust anyone who decided to work closely with Webb, who imo most certainly is affiliated with an alphabet agency. And who obviously holds the opinion that Pizzagate isn't a worthwhile investigation. Why would she team up with a guy like this in the first place?
The same applies to her 'ex'-FBI friend Gritz, who worked abroad in missions together with military intelligence people. I think it was @new4now who looked into her, and found some shady stuff re the London Center she is connected to.
2) I have never trusted Jem777 - I joined the board as a lurker in late December 2016, and signed up in autumn 2017, about a month before Jem got banned. I read almost everything she posted. I am sorry to say that, but I thought the things she posted were always a mixture of likely accurate and likely false info, combined with an exaggerated self-confidence. I also didn't trust her information about the witness protection programme.
3) I know some more background details from srayzie, more than she posted here, which confirmed my view.
That said, I understand that you must be sad that you lost a friend and a fellow pizzagater. And even that you are cross with people that don't share your opinion about Jem, and that you don't understand why someone would have a totally different view.. But this is my personal view as a fellow user.
As a mod, I have stickied the thread, like we have stickied the other post who says exactly the opposite.
We can have only three stickied posts at a time. So when I wanted to sticky this post yesterday, I let the other post by @dreamdigital about Jem stay, and took the Ketron Island research post down for the time being, so that people would be able to read two different opinions.
seekingpeace ago
Well, the irony is that most of GW's subscribers found him here on Voat/pizzagate. He made one post (sorry don't have a link anymore) where he talked a lot about Epstein and Lolita Island, writing as if he had first hand knowledge.
His videos were heavily promoted and upvoated by an army of posters. It was almost as if he lured pizzagaters away like the Pied Piper. Look over here! Then when he had people's attention, he changed his focus to spying and arms dealing etc.
think- ago
Yep, exactly.
new4now ago
also Robyn was a Juvenile probation Officer in Camden NJ before signing up with FBI
that doesn't set well with me either
new4now ago
hoping today I can look more into it
The guy with Webb, when he announced Jems death, McDuff, well his Father needs looking into and am hoping to have the time to do so today
thought this vid was interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeYYA_eRXK0
Hate to say it, but sometimes Jem gets lost in my research because I keep hitting ties to intelligence
and as I have said Webb has always rubbed me the wrong way, so here I am trying to go through his vids and twits
trying to stay neutral in my research, but intelligence and people we know are part of that which we are fighting keep coming up
I've said it before, What did Jem get herself involved in?
I didn't have as much personal contact with her as others have, I did read a lot of her posts and commented on them
so personally, I have to start from scratch, as with all the other people involved with her
think- ago
Well, that's actually a good thing, so nobody can claim you have been prejudiced.
new4now ago
all these people who are putting Jem/ Jenny news out, all have some kind of connection to intelligence, in links
Webbs involvement is rumor so far, haven't found anything on that
put am remembering a Webb that was murdered? for speaking out
and who is Webb's brother?
I wish I would have paid more attention back in those days
think- ago
Yep. And that's the problem here.
carmencita ago
Ok we can agree to disagree:)
think- ago
Yep! ;-)