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Cc1914 ago

This is Jem777.. she was one brave woman ! So sad to hear this . This is no game !

jangles ago

@Vindicator banned her @jem777 account, her original account is still banned. maybe now she can at least have the respect from this community. All the hate against her here @pizzagate upset me knowing her valor and who she was. So many times I wanted to shut down Jem777 naysayers with the truth about who she was. I didn't in respect for her anonymity, I hope now people will can reevaluate their positions.

srayzie ago

@Vindicator is not ban happy. He gave her many warnings. It’s not right to make him the bad guy now because she passed away. The mods are always the one to blame. Of course Jem did nothing wrong right? People don’t know the whole situation so you shouldn’t make judgements.

Cc1914 ago

I concur ! Why is there a thread dedicated to Jem777 and all her alleged bot accounts posted as a sticky here ? Have you seen that and what is it all about ? She only had 2 names that we all knew of .

MolochHunter ago

I didnt catch the whole thing so my opinion aint the most qualified, but it seemed to me Jem777, undoubtedly well intentioned, just went off the rails with the stress and danger of what she was doing, and was fragmenting here on voat.

@Vindicator didnt ban her without repeated warning and recommending she take some time out to cool her heels, and i saw the posts where she wasnt observing submission rules

was Vindicator vindicated in banning her? Who's to say definitively. But it wasnt without some level of merit

Lansing-Michigan ago

Perhaps this is a good time for reevaluation. What if we appreciated people for their intentions and the good that they do? When you are in the trenches like Jem777 was, perhaps she would go off the rails at times. It would be unrealistic to think that she did not know her life was in danger with the political climate the way it is? Re. Trump, I often think of the freemason law of reversals which seems to be very important to them. i.e. Obomba smiled at his wife, made great speeches and held his children's hands often in public. Trump ignores his wife and children in public...can't make a speech and the pedophiles and rapists being exposed are unprecedented in American history. Doesn't this come under draining the swamp ? The number of lawmakers who are resigning? To me.......it is reversals.

jangles ago

I agree with your assessment. I just think it would be respectable to un ban her original account for good merit.

ASolo ago

Yeah this is pretty hardcore. I've been trying to wrap my head around it and piece together what I can but all of it seems just as big a mess as any other conspiracy.

I guess she went by the handle @Taskforce on twitter.

I can remember the constant harassment she would get from many of the early pizzagaters here, believers and detractors alike, hopefully her work will not be in vain.

exposethecriminals ago

Is anyone able to explain how Jenny Moore is Jem777, as Jem777 was recently outed as a bot/shill in a v/pizzagate sticky?

I did not see this thread at first, so I just posted this comment in @DerivaUK's thread:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2673466/13545673

(Quote from the sticky excerpt)

The list of bots associated with this user:

https://voat.co/user/Jem777 and https://voat.co/u/mej777 < Appears to be real accounts, but there's always one of the other bots welcoming him back whenever he posts in a thread. [...]

Thank you

Cc1914 ago

I don’t know how they came up with Jem777 being a bot ? She has been here since the beginning and I think this is all a set up . Several of us have conversed with her over the past 2 years . She was real and was very passionate about children as we all are .

exposethecriminals ago

I don't know, their explanation is in their post here, which was stickied on v/pizzagate recently.

I don't know if that OP was setting her up, or, noticing things.

I just came across something that may explain why Jenny Moore/Jem777 allegedly had so many Voat accounts - she seemed to claim she didn't know about them, I don't know -- this is all so sad:

I am the one who actually worked so hard to isolate those accounts until I could find the real identity which I have to be able to battle back with truth...

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2238641/11075907

I deleted my other comments -- I got my question answered as to how did people associate Jem777 with Jenny Moore --

Vindicator ago

I deleted my other comments -- I got my question answered as to how did people associate Jem777 with Jenny Moore

I, for one, would like to know the answer to this question, too. I've seen no evidence, and my experience with the Jem account does not jive with what people are saying.

exposethecriminals ago

This was enough to answer the question for me anyway:

Vindicator ago

Thanks EtC :-)

Cc1914 ago

Something is really strange .. I can’t access that sticky you sent anymore ? It takes me to a “ Voat “ login page on the way back machine ? I was able to see it earlier .

exposethecriminals ago

Oh gosh. Which link? I'll fix it if I am able to. If it was one of those long archive.org addresses that needs to be copied and pasted into a browser bar, perhaps the entire address was not copied? That has happened to me.

Cc1914 ago

It was the link for the list of supposed bot accounts linked to Jem777. Who made that list , did you say you did ? 😐 sorry so confused

exposethecriminals ago

No worries, it is pretty confusing, and there are so many threads on Jenny Moore.

This is the link that mentioned Jem777:

https://voat.co/v/politics/2656087

The person who posted it did not make that list, they noted the original poster in the body of the post.

In my comment a few comments above, I pasted part of an exchange between Jenny and Vindicator I noticed, indicating Jenny was unaware that many alternate accounts were associated with her:

Excerpt from my comment https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2673451/13547755 :

I just came across something that may explain why Jenny Moore/Jem777 allegedly had so many Voat accounts - she seemed to claim she didn't know about them, I don't know -- this is all so sad:

I am the one who actually worked so hard to isolate those accounts until I could find the real identity which I have to be able to battle back with truth...

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2238641/11075907

It's all very strange.

exposethecriminals ago

@Cc1914 just to add to my reply to you:

I just now noticed you had asked me not only who made that list, but did I make it?

No, I had nothing to do with it. I simply read it when it was a sticky recently at the top of Pizzagate.

 

I'm thinking you probably didn't see my earlier reply to your comment, below, maybe that will help clarify:

 

Link to your comment and my reply, below: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2673451/13545957 :

[–] Cc1914 2 points (+2|-0) 1 day ago

I don’t know how they came up with Jem777 being a bot ? She has been here since the beginning and I think this is all a set up . Several of us have conversed with her over the past 2 years . She was real and was very passionate about children as we all are .

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[–] exposethecriminals 2 points (+2|-0) 21 hours ago

I don't know, their explanation is in their post here, which was stickied on v / pizzagate recently.

I don't know if that OP was setting her up, or, noticing things.

I just came across something that may explain why Jenny Moore/Jem777 allegedly had so many Voat accounts - she seemed to claim she didn't know about them, I don't know -- this is all so sad:

I am the one who actually worked so hard to isolate those accounts until I could find the real identity which I have to be able to battle back with truth...

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2238641/11075907

I deleted my other comments -- I got my question answered as to how did people associate Jem777 with Jenny Moore --

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The thread was posted by someone named Camulos, in politics according to the link, but he/she indicated (near the top) that the actual author of the list was brandon816. And of course I am not either of those people, I only have this account. Does that answer your question?

Cc1914 ago

Thank you ! 😊 yes that clears things up . I saw who posted it , but was unclear who helped with that list .

exposethecriminals ago

I think @Camulos was saying Jem777 was associated with spam bot accounts, and would write as a person through Jem777. I think. I do not understand how these things work.

This is the recent v/pizzagate sticky that appears to out Jem777:

https://voat.co/v/politics/2656087

I wasted a ton of time earlier on in Pizzagate fact checking some Jem777 comments, as I fact check almost everything in general, only to find those Jem777 comments were not based in any fact but sounded eloquent. Nothing earth shattering, just, as an example, so and so owns a house on such and such island and they do human sacrifice - no sources. Or, leading someone else's thread's comments based on misidentification of a person in the OP as someone else who has the same name - but doing so very compellingly. Eventually, when I found zero of Jem's comments I fact checked turned out to be true in any way, I refused to read any comments by Jem777. I'm sorry, I really don't care if most on here love Jem777, that's fine with me! I'm not spending any more time thinking about that account. I'm just confused over why people identify Jenny Moore with Jem777? Do you or does anyone else know why that is? Thanks!

carmencita ago

I am finding that some are saying that GW had something to do with her death. I never followed him so don't know much, but do know that some accused him of being with Mossad. IF that is true, well I suppose it is possible. But that's a Big IF. I also have read a couple comments dissing her because she posted some of GW's info. There are many following Q and GW and others, I am not going to dis those people because of their choices. These are very strange times in our history and many lies are being told. It is hard to know what the truth is and who is telling it. I watched the video last night of GW telling of her cause of death, and wondered how he knew so early in the game. That should make us wonder. SMDH.

notagame ago

He's a loose cannon.

What was she thinking?

carmencita ago

She was taken in by GW for a short while. Plenty on here Idolize him. The longer she was with him the less she trusted him. I am tired of posting things on Robin Young's twitter. I am doing the research and knowing Jem as I did on here and from proof presented by many on twitter, being Young and Sawyer. That is what I based my decisions on. Amen.

notagame ago

I don't understand why anyone would trust GW. Especially after making the fake call to the FBI. But wasn't that partly on a Q message? I seem to recall all these people posting about all these ships moving in because they were going to arrest HRC and then use the military to enforce martial law? That Q post seems to have slipped many Q fans memories also. If only ONE thing he posts about comes true, I'll publicly apologize for trashing him, but GW? No, he's a clown. Makes me doubt people when they believe in someone that is that obviously a fraud.

carmencita ago

GW is disinfo I agree. Too many are ready to believe that someone on a White Horse can ride in and save us. We are Our Saviors. WE must do the work. We cannot keep believing in others. Only US and Jesus Christ are the Saviors. We must pray for his help and work hard to beat down the rapists and those who are doing the Devil's Work.

notagame ago

Wholeheartedly agree.

And support those who are helping. It means supporting our POTUS who has willingly put himself in the middle of a war. I've never seen a president take this kind of abuse, and some were not that popular, but this? This is unprecedented. It also means supporting Assange. He is not "Our Savior" on the level of Our God, but he is a savior in terms of letting us know WTH was going on. I can't thank him enough for that. Even with all the rancor, I'd rather have read those emails and learned what those people were like. I would have never dreamed they were absolute scum. Never. Not without those emails.

carmencita ago

Yes those emails opened Pandor's Box. A God Send.

Narcissism ago

Total load of garbage the GW had anything to do with her death - just another muddy the waters, blame the victims, disinfo story.

carmencita ago

You should read the comments in the Sticky about Jem/Jenny. They have Taken Her Down with Flimsy Evidence and it was horrible. Shameful really. These are our own people taking down One of Us. It was hateful.

Narcissism ago

I don't think that they are "our own people" Srazye and Co are disinfo agents IMHO.

carmencita ago

Well, I hate to pin that on them, but I am very disappointed by the take down. SMH.

Pringle ago

I find it horrible that anyone would try to implicate George Webb in Jenny's death. Him and Jenny worked together for over a year and he would not have had anything to do with killing her. He went looking for Jenny because he hadn't heard from her and that's how he found out she was dead.

Shizy ago

Are you aware she was posting on the chans how she felt he was using her to her to get to her research for free? She said she was done with him! And that was 3 days before her death. Seems like a good motive.

EffYouJohnPodesta ago

me too @Pringle

carmencita ago

Well, I never followed him I did my own research, as many others here did. The fact that he sent someone else to check on her stands out and I am sorry but his first report of her death, just didn't cut it for me. That's just my personal opinion. I don't know whether he personally had anything to do with her death, and we really don't know that she really is dead, but he has been connected to Mossad and possibly with the CIA. These may all be untruths to you for you are one of his followers, all I am saying at this point, as usual we don't have much to go on. His announcing her cause of death just hours later, is very very strange indeed.

Pizzalawyer ago

im not disputing anything in your comment except that GW had to report to hotel staff in order for them to open the door of her locked hotel room.

carmencita ago

Imo, he should have gone himself if he was that worried about her. He wanted us to think he was crying, I watched his video. If he was so very moved and so connected to her, then why didn't he go himself? I believe they were not as close as he implies. I don't know what is behind that, but there is proof that I have posted that she was not that close to him. She found out she had read him wrong. Whatever that means.

bibigirl_ ago

He seemed sincerely hurt by her death

carmencita ago

Seemed maybe. But not sincerely. There were no tears. They put the camera on the other guy because he didn't want us to see his face. I don't trust him. I have been on the fence about him, and this just sealed it. He also had word about her cause of death. According to him Jem was still alive yesterday morning. So, he had that info by last night? Only someone well connected to whoever took her out would know that. Way too early. I am sorry, at first I thought the same as you, but the cause of death thing was just too much.

BehindTheCurtain ago

Actually, there were tears. My gut reaction was that he was acting...that he purposefully produced those tears for the camera. Just my gut...but who knows. Watch the first 2 and a half minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvfPnUm2f30

carmencita ago

Possibly, but I can't see them. Have not been well. But he is a Master at Fooling, imo.

bibigirl_ ago

Wow

carmencita ago

Yeah, wow is right. I think she was on and off about Webb. There are many possibilities here. But no one knows for sure which answer is correct. She could have found him out and was thinking of exposing him or since she was under the Witness Protection Program, possibly they asked her to feed them info on him. She is either in hiding or someone killed her. Like I said, too many answers. And I bet here are more.

ASolo ago

I'm shocked she was hanging with him and went with him. As intelligent as she was I just can't believe she couldn't see he is probably truly mossad and highjacked much of pizzagate. I do believe her death indicates their preferred method.

notagame ago

UpVoat and agree.

I don't know if he had anything to do with it, but it's like getting into bed with AJ. Why? If you're doing legitimate work, stay legitimate and don't get involved with the fringe.

auralsects ago

lol aren't you supposed be the shill-spotter. truepundit is literally a fake news site.

carmencita ago

Somehow I think there is more to this than we know. I don't trust GW and I do trust her. She was way too honest and smart to get taken in by him. Something just doesn't add up. Was she working on something with the White Hats? Working on exposing GW? Either she is being protected or someone took her out.

DerivaUK ago

I’ve just done a repeat post on this as I didn’t see this submission. Had no idea this was Jem777. Didn’t she have to change her handle and back off a while ago because of threats?

think- ago

No, she changed her handle because she was banned from v/pizzagate.

notagame ago

Why was she banned?

Why is Voat giving legitimate posters such a had time? Makes no sense.

DerivaUK ago

I see. Thanks.

Cc1914 ago

She’s been working on the ground and use to be a cop ! She was banned on voat and we all tried to get her back . And yes Are_We_Sure threatened her and some think George Webb killed her . This is insane . She was fearless !

dias17se ago

How is that piece of shit a mod if he threatened her ?

Cc1914 ago

He’s not a mod and nobody is sure now if that was a threat .

Are_we__sure ago

And yes Are_We_Sure threatened her

This is absolutely false .

@DerivaUK

Didn’t she have to change her handle and back off a while ago because of threats?

No. She changed her handle because she was banned. When she came back, she let everyon know it was her. She did not try even to hide it. JEM came back as MEJ.

She was banned because she kept violating posting rules is the reason that was given.

Cc1914 ago

That’s the rumor , then I guess you have a chance to prove you didn’t threaten her .

Shizy ago

I saw someone yesterday posted a message that JEM had sent to them on voat where she says are we sure threatened her. If I can remember who posted that I can ask them do make a thread....

Are_we__sure ago

That’s the rumor,

Did you ever stop to think about not spreading rumors?

then I guess you have a chance to prove you didn’t threaten her .

Which I can absolutely do. The thread is still public ally up on voat. I asked @vindicator to start a thread where I can respond. I am downvoated and thus not able to start new threads.

darkknight111 ago

Still dodging I see.

You could easily prove your innocence by giving what I've been asking for, an hour by hour account of your whereabouts between 5 pm 8/12/2018 - 5 am 8/14/2018.

You keep ducking us in that regard.

Guess that shows yes indeed you WERE involved in her death. Only the guilty have something to hide. Looks like you're very guilty.

@fartyshorts

MolochHunter ago

if your posting co-ordinates and decapitation picture were not a veiled death threat, then do kindly explain your motivation for posting said info

darkknight111 ago

Do you regret sending that image of the decapitated corpse and those coordinates to Jem?

Those actions that day are coming back to bite you. Nobody trusts you around here because of your constant defending of Democrat elites.

Due to those images, nobody trusting you, and your silence during the day of her death, a significant chunk of people here now think you were involved in her death.

A claim you could easily disprove by giving an hour by hour account of your whereabouts from 5 pm 8/12/2018-5 am 8/14/2018 (local time zone).

Since you keep dodging the question, it keeps further implicating your involvement in Jem's murder.

Only the guilty have something to hide.

darkknight111 ago

Still not explaining your EXACT whereabouts over the past 37 hours at every hour?

You're dodging the question AGAIN!

If you are truly innocent in her murder, you better fucking explain. Right now!

Your silence regarding those whereabouts is quite telling.

Only the guilty have something to hide.

darkknight111 ago

If you are innocent, you had better fucking explain EXACTLY where you were for the past 36 hours.

With physical evidence to prove you're not lying.

You are on very thin ice around these parts.

Reddit_is_shitty ago

Then Are_We_Sure should be doxxed and targeted, right?

think- ago

Then Are_We_Sure should be doxxed

No, he shouldn't, as much as I hate him - doxxing other users is against the Voat User Agreement, and will anyone who does it get immediately banned.

Please refrain from suggesting people should be doxxed here.

fartyshorts ago

I don't know if he still lives at his old address, but I have the one he posted on Flickr...

Are_we_sure ago

DM me, I'll tell you how close you are.

Pizzalawyer ago

this is ridiculous, sorry you are going thru this.

darkknight111 ago

He's going through it for the following reasons:

  1. That image of a decapited corpse he sent to Jem along with those map coordinates. He better explain his motive for that.

  2. He was eerily silent all day at the date of Jem's murder.

  3. He CONSTANTLY refuses to answer when questioned.

All he has to do is truthfully make an account of his where abouts during the time of the murder. Yet he won't do it. This is making more and more suspiscious.

There's an old saying that "only the guilty have something to hide".

His suspicious behaviour makes me SINCERELY believe AWS had something to do with that murder. He could easily disprove it by coming clean, then I stop permanetely. But he doesn't. Defamation is about INTENTIONAL falsehood.

Are_we_sure ago

Thanks.

I might need your help in helping folks understand what defamation per se is.

And how this falls under it. My state is a per se state.

Per se damages means the plaintiff doesn’t have to prove economic loss or injury because the defamatory statement was inherently harmful.

Under the per se standard, plaintiff can bring civil actions against defendants for making false, injurious claims regarding .....criminality .

darkknight111 ago

Then why do you keep dodging the question?

You could EASILY shake all suspiscion off of you regarding Jem's death by simply coming clean with that account. Yet you don't.

Come clean and all suspiscion goes away. Its that simple.

Do you regret sending that image of a headless corpse in a arch of hysteria pose to her? You haven't answered that question either.

darkknight111 ago

Still dodging the question of your EXACT whereabouts from 5 pm 8/12/2018 - 5 am 8/14/2018. Still refusing to answer.

LAST chance to prove your innocence in Jem's murder and therefore your last chance to prove your claims that those images you sent were not threats.

Only the guilty have something to hide.

@fartyshorts send me that information. Its time to out a murderer.

@Reddit_is_Shitty @Cc1914 @MolochHunter Yep, looks like Are We Sure is infact GUILTY of being involved in Jem777's murder due to his silence on the matter.

Cc1914 ago

Start a Q&A with the title @Jem777/ @Are_We_Sure . He said he would answer questions if you started a new thread . Let’s see what he has to say .

darkknight111 ago

You don't capitulate to the demands of shills. You put them in the hot seat and throw endless hate at them. Make them feel like the unwelcome vermin they are.

If he wants to prove his innocence, then he needs to do it right now, under MY brand of questioning.

He could easily prove his innocence right now. He's been silent.

Only the guilty have something to hide.

He probably doesn't regret sending Jem that image of the decapitated corpse in the Arch of Hysteria pose, because it was INTENDED as a threat (ie AWS is a liar).

Cc1914 ago

I get where your coming from , it’s hard to follow along in that thread so a new one focused solely on these questions would be good IMO . Not caving into AWS demands , just think it would be more powerful with its own thread .

Reddit_is_shitty ago

Post away!

darkknight111 ago

Send it to me privately along with the flickr account.

Vindicator ago

@darkknight111 @Reddit_is_shitty @fartyshorts

Please review the Voat User Agreement (link is at the bottom of every page). Doxxing of Voat users is not acceptable and is grounds for sitewide ban. Depending on what is posted, it can open Voat up to legal action and could jeopardize this forum. You are playing right into Shareblue's hands with this approach.

fartyshorts ago

Don't worry about me, I'm not going to doxx anyone on here.

darkknight111 ago

I'll settle for trying to get the truth out of AWS.

He's being very evasive and silent (and was silent all day when thr news came out) when all he needs to do is come clean. Then the suspiscion around him goes away.

Cc1914 ago

If he’s being accused of murder , I would think so 🤔 I personally don’t know what to think or believe yet .

DerivaUK ago

I thought she was working with Webb?!

Cc1914 ago

She was , but I saw a comment that had 17 upvoats about How GW could have done it . Who knows .. ? 😔 you should watch this video .. everyone should watch it because it shows just what type of person she was . https://youtu.be/sADjrVzlsGo

carmencita ago

Thanks for the video. I am reading this post through my tears. I am finally coming to the realization that she is gone (but not ever forgotten). We have lost a True Patriot here is another video from 5 days ago. She explains why she is at the Manefort Trial and how it all connects to Child Trafficking through a coup by Obama and HRC of Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=440&v=Y8T4wEhsfYQ

TrishaUK ago

Oh my goodness, how on earth is Jems death going to affect these poor victims? They felt so unsafe and unsure before meeting her? Who are they and who are going to protect them? OMGoodness where are they, if she was not even safe ........my heart is aching for them, whos going to help them right now?.....what can we do???? - this is just so disturbing to listen too not knowing where they are or even who they are............

carmencita ago

Idk. This is all like a Bleeping Dream/Nightmare. Yes, those poor Victims. I wonder if any of them will come out after they hear about Jem. The original Whistle blower Victim, what about him? No answers.

Cc1914 ago

Wow she was really in this deeper than I knew ! What a brave woman ! I wonder who has her “ insurance files “ GW said she never gave him any !? That’s odd to me .

carmencita ago

Odd to me too. I have always been on the fence about him, especially since I didn't follow him, except for a few vids. Too busy. But now I am have thoughts. One thing, is what you just mentioned and how quick he came up with the cause of death and the no tears report. He should be seriously researched.

Cc1914 ago

I followed his Awan videos in the very beginning, but always with a critical eye . He started saying pizzagate was a distraction etc , I knew he was off . He also said people would be getting paid 1k dollars per tweet for exposing this eventually.. 😂 so alarms went off then too . Everyone needs a human savior it seems and it’s hard not to fall into the trap. Even ones who say they are woke follow you tubers who they depend on for accurate info , without doing the work themselves .

carmencita ago

That's what got us into this mess. We believed without verifying. We just trusted them blindly because we didn't believe humans could be that evil and vile to their own. Animals are kinder to their own and to others. I am glad to know that she did not trust her completely, good to know. He acts like she did, and she did not. He also seems like they were much more involved than they were. He should be so lucky. Maybe she was using him to get info to help with her investigating. And he found out. I said maybe, so shills don't bug me.

IIJOSEPHXII ago

Cc1914 ago

Wow ! Something is odd . She broke ties with him and let people know evidently?

DerivaUK ago

Thanks so much.

Cc1914 ago

Yw

IVIVI ago

Isn't that the perfect set up?