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Vindicator ago

LOL...lady needs some meds.

I'm giving this the 24 Hour warning flair, since there is no linked support presented for any of these claims. If that isn't added to the post, this will be flaired as "Unverified" and then removed per Rule 2 tomorrow. This belongs in v/pizzagatewhatever...it doesn't even attempt to meet our research requirements.

@think- @ben_matlock @Honeybee_ @EricKaliberhall

Narcissism ago

Added the links as requested.

ESOTERICshade ago

She likes your hero President Trump too. oops, looks like your prejudice and bias got triggered too soon.

4:50 in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGIMPYdQI0E

ESOTERICshade ago

since there is no linked support presented for any of these claims. If that isn't added to the post, this will be flaired as "Unverified" and then removed per Rule 2 tomorrow.

There is also no real evidence that Joe Biden is a pedophile but you didn't bother that thread. There is no evidence that 2300 people were just arrested but you didn't bother that thread. When people point the finger at the real perps and explain why they do what they do you rush in and try to stop the conversation. This lady names the perps and goes into detail about why they do what they do.

think- ago

There is also no real evidence that Joe Biden is a pedophile

Not true. We all saw how he groped kids - it's on video.

This lady names the perps and goes into detail about why they do what they do.

Just 'naming' perps is not enough. I'm sometimes really shaking my head, Esoteric. You're sharp, right? But when you discover something that simply seems to fit into one of your theories, you fall for it, no matter how speculative it is.

On the other hand, you rightly insist that we need to be accurate.

I recently looked into the 'Black Nobility' theory as promoted by the ahuwazeus blogger. It's simply crap. Pure, unsubstantiated crap. Not saying that some of these families are not connected to organized crime, but the guy just made 80% of the stuff he wrote up. (And I'm being generous writing '80%' and not '90%').

TL;DR: We lose our credibility if we accept anything we just like to hear, because it sounds so exciting.

ESOTERICshade ago

Not true. We all saw how he groped kids - it's on video.

I don't like the creepy old fucker either but what he did is not pedophilia and i'm using him to make a point.

But when you discover something that simply seems to fit into one of your theories, you fall for it, no matter how speculative it is.

Vindicator has pet subjects that get a pass of leniency. Subjects pertaining to Freemasonry, Zionism, Jesuits, Trump, get judged harshly and he suddenly wants "evidence" so he can delete it. Its a pattern.

I recently looked into the 'Black Nobility' theory as promoted by the ahuwazeus blogger.

Great

think- ago

Subjects pertaining to Freemasonry, Zionism, Jesuits, Trump, get judged harshly and he suddenly wants "evidence" so he can delete it. Its a pattern.

That's bullshit. I don't remember one post he flaired and then later removed about these topics I wouldn't have flaired myself.

And I'm not a Trump supporter, as we all know, and think Freemasons are as deep into the shit as possible, I'm not a zionist, and I don't have anything against posts that show that Jesuits are involved, as long as we see legit sources.

We don't censor content anyway. A post adheres to the rules, or it doesn't.

@Vindicator @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall @srayzie

srayzie ago

I think @Vindicator is very fair.

ESOTERICshade ago

Pro Trump thread. Broke the rules. He ignored it. Bias. Open and shut.

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2589689

ESOTERICshade ago

We don't censor content anyway.

You don't but Vin will try if he can get away with it. And he picks on important subjects. I made my point and i'm not gonna argue with you. I showed you how lenient he was with the pro Trump thread and you ignored it. I'm through talking about this.

A post adheres to the rules, or it doesn't.

Like this one?

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2590218

think- ago

don't like the creepy old fucker either but what he did is not pedophilia

Ok, Esoteric, I will quote this in the future. For the record: Esoteric thinks groping kids like Joe Biden does on the videos we have seen is not pedophilia. Noted.

@Vindicator @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall @Honeybee_

ESOTERICshade ago

Ok, Esoteric, I will quote this in the future. For the record: Esoteric thinks groping kids like Joe Biden does on the videos we have seen is not pedophilia. Noted.

Go for it if thats the way you play ball. I expected you to be an objective mod instead of a "team player." I'm making a point about his bias against threads critical of Trump, Zionism, Freemasons, and Jesuits. I also used a couple of other threads as examples.

think- ago

I'm also right because the creepy old fucker should keep his hands off kids but he cannot be arrested for it.

Lame retraction attempt.

You claimed that @Vindicator was too lenient against posts that say Biden is a pedo, based on the video evidence.

You can also stare at a little kids body for ten minutes in a suggestive way (there's a photo of Biden doing this out there, although I'm not sure it isn't photoshopped) without getting arrested.

So we should pull posts for discussing anything that won't lead to an immediate arrest?

If you want to attack @Vindicator, you better get your rhetoric right. Or it will backfire in no time.

You want the community to believe posts should be flaired because Biden groping kids is not an adequate source for pedophilia here on the sub?

Go for it, do a post in v/pizzagatemods, or stop attacking @Vindicator with such a ridiculous claim.

I'm objective. Ask @Vindicator. grin If he or @ben_matlock or @EricKaliberhall or @Honeybee_ will do something I don't agree with, I tell them. And I accept criticism from them.

As I wrote some months ago before I became a mod when a troll attacked @Vindicator:

'I critize the mods when I think it's appropriate, and I defend them when it's appropriate. Deal with it.'

So which part of 'I also would have flaired this post' didn't you get?

@Vindicator @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall @Honeybee_

ESOTERICshade ago

Gonna man up and flair this thread?

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2590218

ESOTERICshade ago

Lets pro Trump threads break rule 2.

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2588737/13018147


Does not know how to post a thread of his own that meets Rule 2.

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2590218


So you want to compare me to pedophiles because of Biden? OK.

think- ago

So you want to compare me to pedophiles because of Biden? OK.

Using a strawman now? You must be desperate, Esoteric. I never said that.

You said what Biden did wasn't pedophilia 'technically speaking'. At least have the balls and don't deny it.

@Vindicator @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall @srayzie

ESOTERICshade ago

If he is going to make posts about talmudists, zionists, and anti Trump follow the rules, the the post below needs to follow the same rules. And I don't care what you say about the Biden bullshit because technically i'm right. You are trying to compare me to pedophiles. Nice. You won't comment on the below thread. Why not?

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2588737/13018147

pro trump bias

think- ago

You are trying to compare me to pedophiles.

No I don't. You have run out of arguments and are using this as a strawman now. Weak. I'm disappointed. I thought you were a sharp cookie that wouldn't need to use a strawman because he ran out of ideas.

@Vindicator @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall @srayzie

ESOTERICshade ago

No I don't. You have run out of ideas and are using this as a strawman now. Weak. I'm disappointed.

I don't care I have moved on.

Crensch ago

OP is complete horseshit. I saw it in /new and was going to post on it, but decided to let @Vindicator et al. deal with it.

There is also no real evidence that Joe Biden is a pedophile but you didn't bother that thread.

Bullshit. Dude is seen multiple times touching little girls and leaning in WAY too close, and grabbing baby crotch. If he's not a pedophile, he should be put down for looking EXACTLY like one. No sane person would say there's "no real evidence that Joe Biden is a pedophile".

This lady names the perps and goes into detail about why they do what they do.

With. Zero. Evidence. It's anecdotal. It's CLAIMS. It's some old coot TALKING about what she believes.

ESOTERICshade ago

Nope. She is citing known works. You are not well read enough on the subject to know and are not objective. If I decide to call him on his bias in the future it will be bullet proof and you can bet i'm smart enough to do it. Good night. I have nothing to say to you about anything. No need to try to talk to me.

Crensch ago

Nope. She is citing known works. You are not well read enough on the subject to know and are not objective.

OP isn't citing the sources, just hand-waving to a video that cites other sources. Can you read, ESOTERIC?

"EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link." - Rule 2

If I decide to call him on his bias in the future it will be bullet proof and you can bet i'm smart enough to do it.

No, you're not. You can't even read the rules, apparently.

Good night. I have nothing to say to you about anything. No need to try to talk to me.

Realizing you're wrong, and trying to ride off into the sunset with such a pathetic exit monologue... yep. You think entirely too highly of yourself.

ESOTERICshade ago

You're the one that can't read the rules. Look at all these factual claims that broke rule 2 that he did nothing about. But this was his hero Trump so instead of enforcing the rules he just gleefully celebrated in his pro Trump thread. This link below is blatant too. Cannot be denied, except by, of course, by you. I notice you didn't address it, but just "rode off into the sunset."

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2588737/13018147

Vindicator ago

Joe Biden is on video harassing women and children over and over and over again. Anyone who wants to can vet the press release on the arrests (secondary evidence) by walking into involved LE agencies and asking to see the crime report (primary evidence).

The lady could be reciting the manuscript of her failed novel. There's no way to vet everything she is saying, which this community requires.

Bad day, huh, ES?

ESOTERICshade ago

The lady could be reciting the manuscript of her failed novel. There's no way to vet everything she is saying, which this community requires.

Thank about what you just wrote. I could start ripping all these posts to shreds based on that statement. I could use that one statement and oh boy....I won't because I'm not a prick, but mind your bias from now on.

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2589845

ESOTERICshade ago

The lady could be reciting the manuscript of her failed novel. There's no way to vet everything she is saying, which this community requires.

Now that I think about it, thats the most bullshit reason you ever came up with to flag a post. I can have a field day with that. I could demand that ALL POSTS be judged based on that bullshit and life would become incredibly difficult. No post requires that "everything" somebody says be vetted and you know it. Thanx for the the shit dump. :)

Vindicator ago

No post requires that "everything" somebody says be vetted

Rule 2: All major claims must have linked support. That's been a rule since the beginning, ES. I didn't make it. We have a subverse for videos and blogs where people just discuss their theories without providing their source references, as you well know: v/pizzagatewhatever. v/pizzagate is for research.

ESOTERICshade ago

And you better read the god damn DEFINITION OF PIZZAGATE AGAIN, BRO.

ESOTERICshade ago

Rule 2: All major claims must have linked support. That's been a rule since the beginning,

Keep going. Make me prove it. You know i'm smart enough to do it too. Leave your god damn bias at home. Ban me for it and it will be a nightmare for you afterwards. I'm not gonna set in on you for this one post. But i'm warning you right now, if you keep doing it, life will get tough.

ESOTERICshade ago

Joe Biden is on video harassing women and children over and over and over again.

I hate the creepy mother fucker as much as anybody but when you pull your double standards and use your bias i'm going technical with you. And technically speaking Joe Biden has zero history as a pedophile. I could make posts about Zionist, Freemasons, Jesuits, Jews, and you would bust your brains out trying to figure out a way to flag a post that meets the rules and its well known.

Anyone who wants to can vet the press release on the arrests (secondary evidence) by walking into involved LE agencies and asking to see the crime report (primary evidence).

No they can't because there is no link to any jurisdictions. Other posts need proper links, you made an exception for the Biden post and deleted a post from a lady explaining pedophile philosophy because of your bias.


The lady could be reciting the manuscript of her failed novel. There's no way to vet everything she is saying, which this community requires.

The two posts I cited can't be vetted either because you didn't ask for your precious "evidence" like you would on posts you don't want talked about.


Bad day, huh, ES?

Not for me, but for you. Your bias is showing again. You attack certain subject matter with your bias and its well known. As a mod you are not allowed to do that.

think- ago

And technically speaking Joe Biden has zero history as a pedophile.

Ok, Esoteric. Please do a post in v/pizzagatemods and complain that we allow people to call Biden a pedo.

Just do it. Have fun with the community's reaction.

@Vindicator @Crensch @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall @Honeybee_

ESOTERICshade ago

This is the sort of leniency pro Trump threads get. I rest my case, and I proved my point, with this one link.

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2588737/13018147

Vindicator ago

No post requires that "everything" somebody says be vetted

Rule 2: All major claims must have linked support. That's been the rule since before I was ever asked to be a mod; I didn't make the rule.

Don't be coy, ES. Of course a government report qualifies as "support". We may question the content, but you can't say the thread is "unsourced." And you can vet Biden's proclivities with your own eyeballs.

The two posts I cited can't be vetted either because you didn't ask for your precious "evidence" like you would on posts you don't want talked about.

Thanks for giving me another opportunity to add to my collection of screencaps of times you've lied and claimed I was violating moderator rules. :-) I have quite a few examples of you pushing this supposed "bias" narrative, now. I even have a screencap of the DM you sent claiming you would make a public apology for doing this when I documented you posting lies and quoting my comments out of context, LOL. You've got zero credibility.

What a surprise you go on the attack the day @kevdude steps down as O.

ESOTERICshade ago

This is how full of shit you are. Claims galore undocumented, no links, etc...This post is a wreck. You didn't do anything about because your hero Trump is in it. You are in there yuking it up because of of "bias for Trump." We can do this alllllllllllll day every day if you want to play games. We don't have to, but we can, and I will win this, you can bet your ass on it.


It has been well documented that pedos are lifelong and hang out with like-minded pedos.

Undocumented claim. No citations, no link, no "evidence" that you require for "certain" posts.


If they were friends once, they are still friends.

Made a claim, no citation, no link, no evidence. Not to mention its crazy talk.


These guys are old friends who avoided being seen in public together.

Made a claim. No citations, no links, no "evidence" like you require for "certain" other posts you don't "like."


See how easy this is for me to do? You really want to start this shit festival with me? I don't think you do. When you see a subject you don't want talked about you whip out the "evidence" word.


If you want me to, I can craft three posts a day and weave the Talmud, Israel, Trump, Zionism, and every other subject you hate talked about into the same post and I can make it bullet proof for the rules. Don't play games with me because i'm smart enough to turn this sub into a feature showcase of everything you desperately don't want talked about.


I'm not irritated enough to do it yet but you are knocking on the doorstep.

ESOTERICshade ago

Thanks for giving me another opportunity to add to my collection of screencaps of times you've lied and claimed I was violating moderator rules. :-) I have quite a few examples of you pushing this supposed "bias" narrative, now. I even have a screencap of the DM you sent claiming you would make a public apology for doing this when I documented you posting lies and quoting my comments out of context, LOL. You've got zero credibility.

What a surprise you go on the attack the day @kevdude steps down as O.

You go for it, but if you delete another post concerning the Babylonian Talmud I will take the definiton of pizzagate and prove you wrong, over and over and over.

ESOTERICshade ago

What a surprise you go on the attack the day @kevdude steps down as O.

I didn't notice he stepped down as O and as a matter of fact as long as I have my material together he always supports me. He is more fair and unbias than you have ever been. You know that before I complain about shit like this I already have my material prepared and ready to go and this time is no different. I told you that I am going to let the flairing of this one thread slide but delete another one and I will prove your bias. I am prepared and ready to go on it.

Crensch ago

You know that before I complain about shit like this I already have my material prepared and ready to go and this time is no different.

Cool. What evidence is there that any of the families in OP:

1) Exist

2) Are linked to Rothschilds

3) Are in control

?

ESOTERICshade ago

And take this with you. This is the sort of lenient treatment his hero Trump gets, but if we make a post about zionists or jews he starts demanding all sorts of evidence and it gets old. He loves his beloved Israel. A post about zionism, Talmud, or jews, would never get this lenient treatment.

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2588737/13018147

Crensch ago

Oh, I see exactly what you're doing there.

Conflating what's common knowledge with what is not.

You and I both know you won't win this one.

Kiwi_Slave ago

Vindicator is a cunt of a moderator full stop. I don't submit to this sub anymore because of him. The Great Awakening sub is much less dysfunctional. Pizzagate was brilliant in late 2016, but its day is done. In large part due to shitty random censorship by people like Vindicator.

ESOTERICshade ago

Pizzagate was brilliant in late 2016

The quality of the material posted back then was about 40 I.Q. points above what it is today. The problem we had in 2016 was Mil Falcon deleting a lot of the most brilliant posts. Trump Savior belief heavily damaged us. When Q got added to that mix the I.Q. of the forum hit bottom.


My main problem with vindicator is that he tries to keep people from pointing fingers at the real perps and explain why they do what they do. He wants to keep the conversation in the shallow end of the pool stuck neck deep in the swamp of fake political drama which is what he once called "the real perps" and nothing could be further from the truth. He doesn't like people calling out the Freemasons, Jesuits, Chabad, Zionists, et:al because Trump Daddy is neck deep in every bit of that. --


Trump has Jesuit affiliations, is a Mason, is a Zionist, and his father and son in law both Chabad. Drives him crazy when people point all that out. I have 127 gigabyte drive full of it and after a while he stopped asking me for "evidence" because I be having it :)

ESOTERICshade ago

LOL...lady needs some meds.

Not surprised since you have a habit of playing in the shallow end of the pool and resisting or denying all real knowledge. You are always the first one to deny real and accurate information. Jesuits, Zionists, etc...all unimportant according to you.

think- ago

Jesuits, Zionists, etc...all unimportant according to you.

@Vindicator never said that.

ESOTERICshade ago

never said that.

Yes he did. He told me that I was distracting people's attention from the "real perps" by focusing on it. You are wrong. You will defend him no matter what.

think- ago

You will defend him no matter what.

I defend @Vindicator whenever I think he's right.

@Crensch @srayzie @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall @Honeybee_

ESOTERICshade ago

Great. Now find something else to do.

Crensch ago

ESOTERIC LARPing as Mr. Miyagi again? The whole "you know nothing grasshopper" shtick?

He's so insecure about his intellect, it's funny.