I just read an old thread that claimed to have debunked the suspicious pizza/hot dog party Obama threw. The figures and the email just don't make sense.
Two guys flew in from St Louis' Pi pizza restaurant. Lets imagine they were treated to First class and their flights cost $1200 combined. Google flights has a return trip at just over $500.
The St. Louis Mag interview with the chef has him state
We were treated like kitchen royalty. I couldn't imagine Wolfgang Puck getting treated any better. Chef Comerford met us at the gate, carried our coolers for us
So they had food coolers for their ingredients. How many coolers would they need to make 21 pizzas? From Dailymail
It will feature his signature dishes - ten deep dish and ten thin crust creations. He is also planning a pizza especially for the president.
So 21 pizzas confirmed. 3 coolers? 5? 7? Lets say 7 coolers. One cooler for enough ingredients to make 3 pizzas. Seems excessive but lets allow it. American Airlines states its fees for oversized baggage is $100 for up to 32kgs and $200 for upto 42kgs. I'll play it safe and say the 7 food coolers were under 32kg each. So thats $700.
$1200 + $700 = $1900 which we'll round up to $2000.
Ingredients for 21 pizzas. How much? On Pi's website menu their most expensive deep dish pizza costs $23.45 x 10 = $234.50, make it an even $250. Their most expensive thin crusts are $22.95 x 10 = $229.50 again make it an even $250.
So I'm allowing a very generous $500 total for the ingredients budget for the 20 pizzas. Then there's Obama's special pizza. What the hell lets say they spent $100 on ingredients. Ridiculous.
$2000 + $600 = $2600
Hotels. Maybe put up in the Four Seasons for a couple of nights as well. 2 deluxe rooms for 2 nights with bed and breakfast = $3880.
$2600 + $3880 = $6480 which is basically $6,500.
So if you believe these two chefs used a ridiculous amount of heavy luggage to transport an obscenely expensive amount of ingredients for 21 pizzas, while travelling first class and staying in the finest hotel AND that Fred Burton in his email got their location wrong, got wrong what food they were making, misplaced the comma between 6 and 5 to 5 and 0, then added an extra 0 to make $65,000, and finally alluded to knowing about "the same channels" as used by Obama...well then yes, Hot Dog Friday has been debunked.
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new4now ago
the cost of this post?
priceless
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carmencita ago
Highly Agree!
Are_we__sure ago
@rickman So here's the link that is missing. I believe this is the thread you are discussing. became convinced I was on the right path and put up this thread. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2477265
Debunking Obama's $65k pizza / hotdog email
MolochHunter looked at evidence I put forward (Some of which is not original) felt it was worthy of its own thread.
Here's what he wrote.
My Post
Yeah, this actually refers to regular old pizza. And the guy talking about $65,000 doesn't know what he is talking about and is repeating gossip from right wing blogs.
https://twitter.com/ImADirtyBubble/status/1543687256
https://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/13226-obamas-pizza-party-at-taxpayers-tab/
http://web.archive.org/web/20090414041936/http://minx.cc/?post=285771
http://web.archive.org/web/20090414090535/http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/04/10/right-wing-slams-barack-obama-for-ordering-pizza-really
Are_we__sure ago
@rickman as to your other claims downthread. You are starting by assuming a lot of facts in evidence, such that the stratfort people have any inside knowledge of the white house, that the pizzagate intepretation of code words is correct. You're basically saying this is not debunked because I believe the story we tell about it.
It becomes a lot simpler story if you start from the beginning and start with what we know and assume and Occam's razor approach to this.
Claim 1:
There's no reason to believe that Fred Burton has any inside knowledge of the Obama White House.
Evidence:
The email makes clear that Burton doesn't know this information first hand. "I think Obama spent....." He is recalled information he heard about.
Statfor is a private company in Austin, TX. They have a lot of government contracts but are not part of the US government
Fred Burton was solidly right wing and hated Obama. And would read and push right wing news sources.
Here's him passing along an article from his good friend, Ron Kessler, who wrote for Newsmax.
I like this one gives a good idea of the type of political gossip this guy would throw around and the quality of his sources.
Here's him passing along a right wing Blog talking about Obama and Saul Alinsky.
Anybody every here of a site called socyberty.com? Seems like it steemit type site where people who don't have blog can put up a post. Burton pushes a story from there, a story from a conspiracy theorist called Ulsterman. A conspiracy theoorist who is getting the straight dope quoting* an anonymous White House insider.* Does this sound familiar?
Yeah, Burton would promote anonymous right wing conspiracies if they made Obama look bad. Did you hear OBAMA DIDN'T WANT TO KILL BIN LADEN BUT WAS OVERRULED BY MILITARY INTELLIGENCE!
Other evidence of his feelings towards Obama including promoting a birther book. This first link goes out to @srayzie. https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/12/1291697_-social-where-s-the-birth-certificate-the-case-that-barack.html https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/12/1263626_re-the-obama-doctrine-.html
The more you look into him, the more the idea of Fred Burton having the inside story on the Obama White House become ludicrous. The idea that Fred Burton would never screw up his facts in casual conversation is silly.
I showed in the links above that this story was making the rounds of the right wing web.
The timing fits with Burton's email. The idea that Burton would know secrets about the Obama's White House does not.